Iggy Azalea

[Gaby87]

Anaconda was nominated for Best Rap Song.

my bad :shame: i thought she was only nominated for bang bang. thanks for correcting!

Iggy is no different than any of the other fraud artists out there right now. Look at Drake, hes the biggest fraud around. He was raised by a wealthy jewish mom, yet he raps about a lifestyle that hes never lived. None of these artists are hip hop, not even Nicki. Shes straight pop like all of these other manufactured money makers. Real hip hop died in the early 2000s

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[YSoLovely]

Iggy is no different than any of the other fraud artists out there right now. Look at Drake, hes the biggest fraud around. He was raised by a wealthy jewish mom, yet he raps about a lifestyle that hes never lived. None of these artists are hip hop, not even Nicki. Shes straight pop like all of these other manufactured money makers. Real hip hop died in the early 2000s

IneverinmylifethoughtI'ddefendDrake,but... his mom wasn't wealthy. They lived in a middle class neighborhood before they moved "up", but his mom was living waaaayyyyy beyond her means then.

 

[dangerouscurves]

IneverinmylifethoughtI'ddefendDrake,but... his mom wasn't wealthy. They lived in a middle class neighborhood before they moved "up", but his mom was living waaaayyyyy beyond her means then.

I just saw your avatar! Hahahaha!!!

 

[AChanelADay]

Nicky wasn't nominated for any solo Grammys this year that I can recall and Iggy was... And I was referring to Macklemore winning several Grammys earlier this year in rap categories. Kendrick, anyone? The Grammys are a joke.

And I agree, she's not the queen of hip hop, but that's how it seems the media is trying to portray her.

I mean yeah but I liked Mackelmore's album

*runs and hides*

 

[StopHammertime]

I don't see her as hip hop at all, I guess that's why I didn't get why everyone was so worked up about it! I have always seen her as a pop artist. She does all these collaborations with pop artists. I could see why someone would get angry at her for attempting to be 'the next big rapper' LOL.
Although to be 100% with ya, I don't really consider Nicki Minaj a rapper either... I put her more on the level of Lady Gaga. Kind of like 'shock pop'. They are just trying to shock people with their music and persona. Have you HEARD the song Stupid Hoe? ... I love it but it's not the pinnacle of creative artistry haha.

 

[berrydiva]

I don't see her as hip hop at all, I guess that's why I didn't get why everyone was so worked up about it! I have always seen her as a pop artist. She does all these collaborations with pop artists. I could see why someone would get angry at her for attempting to be 'the next big rapper' LOL.
Although to be 100% with ya, I don't really consider Nicki Minaj a rapper either... I put her more on the level of Lady Gaga. Kind of like 'shock pop'. They are just trying to shock people with their music and persona. Have you HEARD the song Stupid Hoe? ... I love it but it's not the pinnacle of creative artistry haha.

When you first discovered Nicki's music probably plays into your not considering her a rapper. You can search out her early music/freestyles/etc on youtube though. The issue with Iggy is not that she's attempting to be 'the next big rapper', I think she knows her lane actually. The issue is others pushing that agenda without realizing that she's not being accepted as such. Like her as a pop artist, that's cool. Attempting to force the hip-hop community to accept her as more than a pop artist is the problem. And, I will continue to give her the palm tree her every time someone tries to attempt to proclaim she's a rapper. lol

 

[ByeKitty]

^I think iggy is considered a fraud for doing hip hop music with a southern style when she's white for one and Australian. I'm not a "big" indie rock fan, but my husband is. Anyway there's a band he likes called TV on the radio. They are three black guys and one white guy or something. Anyway nobody cares what color they are, even though they sound like every other indie rock band. No fraud comments nothing. my husband thought it was cool when he saw them, he didn't call them frauds, etc... I just don't get the need for divide when iggy is obviously emulating a style she likes.

Again you're missing the point. It's not about her being white, it's about her pretending to be something she's not and running with it. If she were really an urban hip hop talent Id be all about her skills. But she's basically an industry creation sold to the public to put a white/blond face on hip hop and then rush to announce her the "Queen." It's pathetic. It's insulting. The very culture mainstream media derides as "bad" is suddenly acceptable because a blond white chick is the one acting "ghetto." Not because she's a true talent. She's pop, with a pop fan base, trying to be pushed as hip hop. The media is casually pretending her fans are hip hop when the majority are pop. Hip hop fans shouldn't be swept into that category just so Iggy can seem more popular than she is.

This argument is quite interesting... It shows how some (I guess black Americans) are offended by Iggy's antics whereas others (I guess white Americans) do not see anything wrong with her music. I think people are offended because she's playing into to a certain "culture", but isn't really up to par. Although I think Iggy Azalea is a popstar and not a hip hop star, I personally don't feel offended by her music or antics. I think it's because it's not something that's personally close to me. Anyways, -and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this- if a "black girl" does something that could be considered "white" there's not as much fuss over it because it's not the culture of a minority. That's the "disadvantage" of being part of a majority. You're generally not being discriminated against, but if you like to make music that is considered "black", you have to be extra great in order to be considered a respectful artist. Makes me respect Eminem even more.

 

[Tarhls]

goodness. I didn't know someone like iggy would get folks all worked up.

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[Tivo]

This argument is quite interesting... It shows how some (I guess black Americans) are offended by Iggy's antics whereas others (I guess white Americans) do not see anything wrong with her music. I think people are offended because she's playing into to a certain "culture", but isn't really up to par. Although I think Iggy Azalea is a popstar and not a hip hop star, I personally don't feel offended by her music or antics. I think it's because it's not something that's personally close to me. Anyways, -and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this- if a "black girl" does something that could be considered "white" there's not as much fuss over it because it's not the culture of a minority. That's the "disadvantage" of being part of a majority. You're generally not being discriminated against, but if you like to make music that is considered "black", you have to be extra great in order to be considered a respectful artist. Makes me respect Eminem even more.

This is a pretty close estimate of what I've been trying to get across. It's not that she's white, it's that the media/music industry has obviously decided it wants a white female face on hip hop for whatever reason (perhaps they think it'll sell more because they'll pick up all the white pop fans who will pay attention to her just because of how she looks...yes people are that shallow). So they pluck this girl out of obscurity shine her up, get her a team to write her lyrics, coach her on how to flow and use a fake accent she's heard used by black artists knowing full well shes just mimicking accents shes heard...simply acting, give her a stage style, give her screen time on a few national stages, pair her up with a few pop artists, push radio airplay for her, get Forbes to announce a blonde white woman now "runs" hip hop. All those who had no idea who she is now assume she's a bonafide hip hop star a la Eminem, not realizing that no one has co-signed that.
She was created to make money and she hasn't earned anything. It's all been given to her. For no other reason than she looks the part. That's insulting. So when hip hop fans legitimately cry foul, the push button defense is "they're just jealous because a pretty white girl is doing well in hip hop." That is hooey.
Its insulting to think people should just stand by and let this blatant mockery and appropriation go on without protest just because the pop fans think it's "no big deal." But I don't have to stand by and not protest it. I will always be there to provide the shade and salt, big deal or not.

 

[Charles]

Iggy is no different than any of the other fraud artists out there right now. Look at Drake, hes the biggest fraud around. He was raised by a wealthy jewish mom, yet he raps about a lifestyle that hes never lived. None of these artists are hip hop, not even Nicki. Shes straight pop like all of these other manufactured money makers. Real hip hop died in the early 2000s

Since when has Drake asserted he's something he's not? He's never claimed to be gangsta or that he sold drugs. Now, if he was writing lyrics like Pusha T, that would be a different story, but he's not. And that's the difference. You'll get respect as long as you don't front. There are plenty of white rappers that get respect cause they're not trying to be black or trying to be dirty south when they're not. They come up with their own lyrics that are representative of their lives and they create their own style based on geographic location and inspiration of others. They don't arrive in a city and in a couple of years create a style as if they had been living there their whole lives and influenced by the people there. It's like me going to the UK and making records where I rap in a cockney accent.
If you don't understand the difference, or even care about it, that's fine. I do..and others do. But just recognize that when you compare certain artists/performers there are people who care about these details.

 

[kittenslingerie]

This argument is quite interesting... It shows how some (I guess black Americans) are offended by Iggy's antics whereas others (I guess white Americans) do not see anything wrong with her music. I think people are offended because she's playing into to a certain "culture", but isn't really up to par. Although I think Iggy Azalea is a popstar and not a hip hop star, I personally don't feel offended by her music or antics. I think it's because it's not something that's personally close to me. Anyways, -and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this- if a "black girl" does something that could be considered "white" there's not as much fuss over it because it's not the culture of a minority. That's the "disadvantage" of being part of a majority. You're generally not being discriminated against, but if you like to make music that is considered "black", you have to be extra great in order to be considered a respectful artist. Makes me respect Eminem even more.

I agree with most of what you said, very well written. The thing that you may not understand not being in America, is the discrimination goes both ways in this country especially in the south. Majority/minority doesn't matter to you when you are being discriminated against. Not sure if Iggy feels discriminated against or not but I feel she is blatantly being targeted for her skin color. I don't think a minority has anymore right to be racist or say racist things than a non minority, its all so disturbing to be hung up on someone's color/race in this day in age. I know some will argue thats not the case, but if the roles were reversed it would be a whole other story. BTW, I'm not going to argue whether Iggy is a "street cred" rapper, but she does rap and is "pop"ular as far as record sales.

 

[LADC_chick]

This argument is quite interesting... It shows how some (I guess black Americans) are offended by Iggy's antics whereas others (I guess white Americans) do not see anything wrong with her music. I think people are offended because she's playing into to a certain "culture", but isn't really up to par. Although I think Iggy Azalea is a popstar and not a hip hop star, I personally don't feel offended by her music or antics. I think it's because it's not something that's personally close to me. Anyways, -and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this- if a "black girl" does something that could be considered "white" there's not as much fuss over it because it's not the culture of a minority. That's the "disadvantage" of being part of a majority. You're generally not being discriminated against, but if you like to make music that is considered "black", you have to be extra great in order to be considered a respectful artist. Makes me respect Eminem even more.

Case in point: Teena Marie. So many black people love her, and it's because she could sang (yes, "sang"; not sing).

 

[kittenslingerie]

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[Charles]

I agree with most of what you said, very well written. The thing that you may not understand not being in America, is the discrimination goes both ways in this country especially in the south. Majority/minority doesn't matter to you when you are being discriminated against. Not sure if Iggy feels discriminated against or not but I feel she is blatantly being targeted for her skin color. I don't think a minority has anymore right to be racist or say racist things than a non minority, its all so disturbing to be hung up on someone's color/race in this day in age. I know some will argue thats not the case, but if the roles were reversed it would be a whole other story. BTW, I'm not going to argue whether Iggy is a "street cred" rapper, but she does rap and is "pop"ular as far as record sales.

UGH! It has ZERO to do with her skin color! And no, if the roles were reversed it wouldn't be the same. Darius Rucker is black and sings country music. He was raised in the south and grew up in that environment. He's not trying to be something he's not. I've never heard any disparaging remarks about him being fake.

 

[Lounorada]

Since when has Drake asserted he's something he's not? He's never claimed to be gangsta or that he sold drugs. Now, if he was writing lyrics like Pusha T, that would be a different story, but he's not. And that's the difference. You'll get respect as long as you don't front. There are plenty of white rappers that get respect cause they're not trying to be black or trying to be dirty south when they're not. They come up with their own lyrics that are representative of their lives and they create their own style based on geographic location and inspiration of others. They don't arrive in a city and in a couple of years create a style as if they had been living there their whole lives and influenced by the people there. It's like me going to the UK and making records where I rap in a cockney accent.
If you don't understand the difference, or even care about it, that's fine. I do..and others do. But just recognize that when you compare certain artists/performers there are people who care about these details.

All of this. Well said Charles, good post.