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[ashan]

However the same dodgy website ting ting displays the f59057 as a result with black colour and then 2 additional photos of the midnight navy ones but this time with a laptop sleeve with tab like so https://coach.tingtingchen.com/coach-product.php?name=PERRY SLIM BRIEF IN CROSSGRAIN LEATHER&style=COACH f59057&color=BLACKI really don;t know what to think anymore
On ebay it looks like I have the fake... the real deal should have a laptop sleeve me thinks as it adds value, and the patch should look like this one on ebay below, also there are 3 mini inner pockets on that one whilst mine has only 2. - https://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-...183087946521?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi all! I wonder if you can help me. I purchased a briefcase on ebay. Coach Perry Slim Cross Grain Briefcase should be the name.. I am worried it might be fake. It was sold as unwanted gift and the coach website doesn't have this model on it's website any more. I have contacted coach and they said they can't help much but they can confirm that there was a "Perry" model sold once..
Now about the bag: it came in a white bag protector which is silky smooth. logo and all looks ok.
The bag has a small leather tag which is different than the crossgrain of the bag. All metal parts have "coach" stamped on them including that mini tiny chain holding the leather tag. zippers as well with YKK.
All look ok but:
No Id number or serial number on the creed patch inside. Inspected the small pocket and found a No. and serial number on a tiny white tag. The creed patch is hard to read, it is made from the same cross grain / pebbled leather and it has the full logo with chariot.
On googling, there appears to be 2 variants of this bag and I am not sure which is original, although I tend to believe mine is fake,
So on some sites like tradesy, amazon and rakuten, the serial number is f59057- colour midnight
on mine it is f71681 which if googled leads straight to some dodgy webistes like coach coachtingtingchen and it doesn't even trigger the colour of the bag - all kinds of unusual colours on offering like red and off white which I don't think Coach would sell.

Now this bag is so well made...still doesn't smell like leather... and I have attached a picture of a stitching fault where it looks like the machine has gone twice over the same stitching on a 1 inch length and that's the only fault in terms of finishing.

Also, searching on tradesy and amazon and even rakuten, the suspected original bag has a laptop sleeve with a tab, but mine doesn't.
also pretty sure I've seen a photo of one with a serial number on the creed.
What is strange is,...how could this model just disappear all of a sudden from the coach website, not even cached (I checked) can't be found. Not one retailer has it in stock.

Please tell me your opinion...

However the same dodgy website ting ting displays the f59057 as a result with black colour and then 2 additional photos of the midnight navy ones but this time with a laptop sleeve with tab like so https://coach.tingtingchen.com/coach-product.php?name=PERRY SLIM BRIEF IN CROSSGRAIN LEATHER&style=COACH f59057&color=BLACKView attachment 4006487I really don;t know what to think anymore
On ebay it looks like I have the fake... the real deal should have a laptop sleeve me thinks as it adds value, and the patch should look like this one on ebay below, also there are 3 mini inner pockets on that one whilst mine has only 2. - https://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-...183087946521?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

Hi @ashan

Welcome to TPF. I realize this site is confusing and I'll answer your concerns here but for future requests on authenticity, please post on the thread dedicated to authenticating items:
Authenticate This COACH
See the first post on the first page for the posting format and information we need, one item of which includes a link to the listing when the item in question came from an online site.

First thing I'll say (to calm your nerves) is that SO FAR, I don't see any problems regarding authenticity although the pictures you've posted aren't adequate. If the listing shows it, a link to the listing will work but we need to see the full front and back of the bag.
I do believe that the bag is authentic.

Calling Coach for authentications is useless for several reasons.

• First of all, sales clerks are trained to sell, NOT to authenticate.
• Nothing can be authenticated over the phone. They can't see the item, can't see the construction and don't know what the item is that you have in hand.
• Sometimes if you read the serial number, they'll might be able to identify the style of bag that would belong to that serial number. But that would be only in the case of a valid serial number. And that seemingly "valid" serial number can be on a fake!
• Additionally, not every style of item is in their computer system. They've been known to tell callers that a perfectly authentic bag is fake because they couldn't look it up.
• Another issue is that MFF (made for factory) outlet items aren't in their database so they can't look those up.
• Both 71681 and 59057 are bags that were made specifically to be sold in their outlet stores so those items were NEVER on Coach's website, though they may have been on the online outlet site. But just because it isn't on the site doesn't mean that the style doesn't exist or that it's fake.
• You referred to tingtingchen as a "dodgy" website but from what I've seen, they appear to be an Asian site similar to ebay. On Asian sites, you may sometimes see items you won't see in the US or other countries because Coach sometimes makes items for targeted markets. (The briefcase you bought doesn't seem to be one of the Asian market bags.)

Regarding the comparisons you've made between your bag (71681) and the other (59057), there ARE differences because they're 2 different styles! When comparing, you MUST compare apples to apples, i.e., your 71681 to other 71681s.

There are currently 8 listings for that style and if you compare, your bag is like those:
https://www.ebay.com/dsc/i.html?_fr...=m570.l1313&_osacat=0&_odkw=coach+71681-pants

 

[ashan]

thank you, however I have to disagree with you on the dodgy website... that is not an ebay like website. https://www.tingtingchen.com/about.php they don't even claim to be, and what do they sell? only high end luxury brands. Ok, I got the part with apples and oranges, but my doubt is that my apple was invented whilst the orange is the real deal. how come one has serial number and different creed patch and mine hasn't got one? If they are similar models how can coach not keep the details consistent? Sure if it is a mff product why I can't find on the whole wide web a reliable source that sold this model? at least in the cache version...
of all 6 results, 1 is totally different, 3 don't show the inside, and 1 (the ash colour) has got s lighyly different leather patch inside. My point is, if I am suspicious of an item I bough on ebay why should I trust other ebay listings?
For the amount of asian shops having this on sale is much higher than the US listings on the bay...

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi @ashan

Welcome to TPF. I realize this site is confusing and I'll answer your concerns here but for future requests on authenticity, please post on the thread dedicated to authenticating items:
Authenticate This COACH
See the first post on the first page for the posting format and information we need, one item of which includes a link to the listing when the item in question came from an online site.

First thing I'll say (to calm your nerves) is that SO FAR, I don't see any problems regarding authenticity although the pictures you've posted aren't adequate. If the listing shows it, a link to the listing will work but we need to see the full front and back of the bag.
I do believe that the bag is authentic.

Calling Coach for authentications is useless for several reasons.

• First of all, sales clerks are trained to sell, NOT to authenticate.
• Nothing can be authenticated over the phone. They can't see the item, can't see the construction and don't know what the item is that you have in hand.
• Sometimes if you read the serial number, they'll might be able to identify the style of bag that would belong to that serial number. But that would be only in the case of a valid serial number. And that seemingly "valid" serial number can be on a fake!
• Additionally, not every style of item is in their computer system. They've been known to tell callers that a perfectly authentic bag is fake because they couldn't look it up.
• Another issue is that MFF (made for factory) outlet items aren't in their database so they can't look those up.
• Both 71681 and 59057 are bags that were made specifically to be sold in their outlet stores so those items were NEVER on Coach's website, though they may have been on the online outlet site. But just because it isn't on the site doesn't mean that the style doesn't exist or that it's fake.
• You referred to tingtingchen as a "dodgy" website but from what I've seen, they appear to be an Asian site similar to ebay. On Asian sites, you may sometimes see items you won't see in the US or other countries because Coach sometimes makes items for targeted markets. (The briefcase you bought doesn't seem to be one of the Asian market bags.)

Regarding the comparisons you've made between your bag (71681) and the other (59057), there ARE differences because they're 2 different styles! When comparing, you MUST compare apples to apples, i.e., your 71681 to other 71681s.

There are currently 8 listings for that style and if you compare, your bag is like those:
https://www.ebay.com/dsc/i.html?_fr...=m570.l1313&_osacat=0&_odkw=coach+71681-pants

thank you, however I have to disagree with you on the dodgy website... that is not an ebay like website. https://www.tingtingchen.com/about.php they don't even claim to be, and what do they sell? only high end luxury brands. Ok, I got the part with apples and oranges, but my doubt is that my apple was invented whilst the orange is the real deal. how come one has serial number and different creed patch and mine hasn't got one? If they are similar models how can coach not keep the details consistent? Sure if it is a mff product why I can't find on the whole wide web a reliable source that sold this model? at least in the cache version...
of all 6 results, 1 is totally different, 3 don't show the inside, and 1 (the ash colour) has got s lighyly different leather patch inside. My point is, if I am suspicious of an item I bough on ebay why should I trust other ebay listings?
For the amount of asian shops having this on sale is much higher than the US listings on the bay...

You seem to want to believe that your bag is fake yet you aren't answering the requests I'd made.
1. Please post a link to the listing
2. Please post pictures of the front and back of the bag if the listing itself doesn't show those parts.

You state: "my doubt is that my apple was invented whilst the orange is the real deal."
My response: Are you saying that 71681 is not a legitimate style but that 59057 is? You are WRONG!! Both are legitimate styles although that's not to say that one or both can't be faked. They are two DIFFERENT styles and the details aren't going to match.

You state: "how come one has serial number and different creed patch and mine hasn't got one?"
My response: Many sellers don't know what to show and/or neglect to show all the required pictures but from what I saw, not a single listing that showed creeds for 71681 had a serial number on the creed.

You state: "If they are similar models how can coach not keep the details consistent?"
My response: Because if you've read any of TPF's Coach subforum over the years, you'll know that Coach's middle name is "INCONSISTENT!" And in fact we've said many times that "the most consistent thing about Coach is its inconsistency.

And there are even cases when depending on the year and the factory where a bag is made, some versions of the SAME STYLE can have a serial number and others have a white label with numbers.

You state: "Sure if it is a mff product why I can't find on the whole wide web a reliable source that sold this model? at least in the cache version..."
My response: Because not everything shows up on the web, reliable or not! However I did find Coach's OWN BLOG where they do show the style of YOUR BAG:

This is their June 10, 2015 blog post.
http://coachfactoryoutlets.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-coach-june-10-sales-event-2015_12.html
Check out #2. COACH f71681 - SLIM BRIEF IN CROSSGRAIN LEATHER - BLACK
COACH MSRP - $595
SALE - $269


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Again, I'll respectfully request that you post a link to the listing you bought so we can see the pictures in the listing.

Also, I'll repeat that there's NO indication that your bag is fake based on your pictures that you've posted so far.

 

[JackieW]

Post any questions you have here about identifying Coach bags or accessories, new or old!
-greenpixie

May I ask help in authenticating this Coach bag, please?
https://m.ebay.ca/itm/222876278156




______________________________________________

Hi girls. I never really visit this board, but I have been buying Coach stuff for a long time now.I'm a huge fan of the Legacy line (even though I don't have any pieces from it), and tons of other styles like the Sabrina. Anyway, I used to just buy stuff at the Coach outlet that I liked without knowing the names. That's fine for me, but now I want to try and list some things on *bay/craigslist, and I don't know their names! I know the MJ board hs a thread called "Name this bag", but I didn't see anything like that here, so I started this thread to ask for any help on naming these bags. I also tried searching in the reference library, but didn't have much luck. Thanks so much-I appreciate all the help!

White Soho Swing pack (this is the only one I kind of know the name of-is this the official name?):

Black signature messenger style bag:

purple w/ orange leather trim wristlet:

Black leather wristlet:

Thanks for all your help girls-I really appreciate it!

Chelsea

 

[Hyacinth]

thank you, however I have to disagree with you on the dodgy website... that is not an ebay like website. https://www.tingtingchen.com/about.php they don't even claim to be, and what do they sell? only high end luxury brands. Ok, I got the part with apples and oranges, but my doubt is that my apple was invented whilst the orange is the real deal. how come one has serial number and different creed patch and mine hasn't got one? If they are similar models how can coach not keep the details consistent? Sure if it is a mff product why I can't find on the whole wide web a reliable source that sold this model? at least in the cache version...
of all 6 results, 1 is totally different, 3 don't show the inside, and 1 (the ash colour) has got s lighyly different leather patch inside. My point is, if I am suspicious of an item I bough on ebay why should I trust other ebay listings?
For the amount of asian shops having this on sale is much higher than the US listings on the bay...

Ashan - I have NO idea why you're refusing to listen to the experts here, of whom BeenBurned is the very best you could ever hope to find when it comes to Coach products, especially recent ones. What she's already posted is 100 percent correct but you seem to have your fingers stuck in your ears and refuse to listen.

POINTS I'M GOING TO CONFIRM:
(and yes, I'm going to be a bit sarcastic because I get extremely annoyed at people who ask for help and don't listen to or believe what you're telling them)

1- You can only compare bags with the SAME EXACT STYLE NUMBER. And for finer details such as creed stampings, you can only compare bags with the SAME STYLE NUMBER AND PRODUCTION CODES SHOWING THE BAGS WERE MADE IN THE SAME MONTH, YEAR AND PLANT. Does that seem like a difficult thing to understand? Why do you think 2 different style bags made two years apart should be identical? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, AND WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE.

2- Coach newer cross-grain leathers often DON't smell or feel like leather. Walk your butt into a Coach store, pick up a few, and SMELL.

3- Coach sometimes doubles or reinforces stitching. So what?

$-IF the laptop sleeve is missing or you think it is, why do you think that makes it fake? With items sold through the outlets, and sometimes and even through full-price stores, often employees remove things like hangtags and small parts for other customers. They DON'T order replacements for what was removed.
HOWEVER
NONE OF THE OTHER EXAMPLES I'VE FOUND OF THIS STYLE HAVE A LAPTOP SLEEVE WITH A TAB EITHER. Why do you feel yours should have one?

4- you asked "What is strange is,...how could this model just disappear all of a sudden from the coach website, not even cached (I checked) can't be found. Not one retailer has it in stock."
BECAUSE IT WAS A STYLE MADE FOR THE FACTORY OUTLET STORES AS SHOWN BY THE "F" IN FRONT OF THE STYLE NUMBER, AND OUTLET-EXCLUSIVE ITEMS WILL NEVER APPEAR ON THE COACH.COM WEBSITE. AND IF THEY'RE SOLD OUT, THEY WON'T BE IN ANY STORES EITHER, OUTLET OR OTHERWISE.

5- more questions that have already basically been answered but you weren't paying attention:
how come one has serial number and different creed patch and mine hasn't got one?
because Coach stopped stamping serial numbers in bags for almost 3 years including the period when yours was made. That information is all over this forum site in dozens of posts and also in places like the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers List at Ebay: THAT'S WHY THAT TINY WHITE TAG IS INSIDE THE POCKET
Part 1
https://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-NT-4903-and-more-part-1-/10000000244432249/g.html
Part 2
https://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-Part-2-/10000000179041909/g.html

thank you, however I have to disagree with you on the dodgy website... that is not an ebay like website.
Why do you believ it's a dodgy website? Do you think all sites outside the US have to look like Ebay? And how closely did you look? Did you even notice that tingtingchen.com is NOT a retail sales website???
It's a BLOG AND REFERENCE SITE THAT LISTS CURRENT AND RECENT SALE PRICES AT THE COACH FACTORY STORES OUTLET SALES, JUST LIKE a site many of us use, "coachfactoryoutlets.blogspot.com". You couldn't buy anything from them if you tried. So how does that make them dodgy???

If they are similar models how can coach not keep the details consistent?
Because "similar" doesnt mean "identical". Check your online dictionary. If they were made to be identical they MIGHT have had the same style number. Or they might not

Sure if it is a mff product why I can't find on the whole wide web a reliable source that sold this model?
Because mff items were almost never sold to large stores for resale, they were already "marked down" and sold at the outlets and on the FOS - Factory Online Sales.

My point is, if I am suspicious of an item I bough on ebay why should I trust other ebay listings?
They're NOT always trustworthy. But if half a dozen sellers have the same style bag from the outlet and all the details among them are identical, they're probably genuine. And they're a LOT more trustworthy than the comments and unsustainable conclusions you're coming up with, without knowing the facts or accepting the facts when they're explained to you.

If you don't like the tone of my answers, sorry. But you've had a full explanation from the best in the business and if you still refuse to believe it I'm not going to waste any more of my time on the subject. The bag you have looks perfectly genuine.

GOOD NIGHT.



DAMN, I haven't exploded in a long time. I needed that.

 

[BeenBurned]

DAMN, I haven't exploded in a long time. I needed that.

LOL! And I need that laugh!

 

[ashan]

Really helpful, learned a lot but it seems that you are over reacting, I asked for help and not drama. Glad you let of some steam though. Thanks for all the details, you obviously know more than me but put yourself in my shoes for a moment. I took everything on board and red everything.
(Is it here where you exploded?) - Don't need to check my dictionary so get off your high coach and understand what I meant. I'm sure you did.
Finally found the outlet website and surprise: the f59 model is shown there but not mine. I will try to get it with the caching website.
About the pictures, I have posted my own pictures with high resolution thinking that is better than that dark photo from the original listing.
Stitching is not reinforced but it looked odd because I red on a guide that these are not usual for Coach, that is a double stitching out of place and completely unnecessary, it is not for reinforcement. This together with the massive amount of results on google search from the Asian markets confused me (Malaysa, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, India, Japan and many more). I did not try to challenge your answers but merely to know the truth. look on this page: https://www.rakuten.com.tw/shop/topshopinc/product/ir6ayc7i5/ the picture is of a different model with f7681 number. Of course you don't even know what to think anymore. There were also pictures with smooth creed, with stitches on the side and not all over in a square, and generally there were more results for the f59 model, and it made me think that it was the original and this was a copy.
It's like the Samsung clones that look identical on the outside but something in the inside is changed. I had to be suspicious with good reasons.

 

[ashan]

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You seem to want to believe that your bag is fake yet you aren't answering the requests I'd made.
1. Please post a link to the listing
2. Please post pictures of the front and back of the bag if the listing itself doesn't show those parts.

You state: "my doubt is that my apple was invented whilst the orange is the real deal."
My response: Are you saying that 71681 is not a legitimate style but that 59057 is? You are WRONG!! Both are legitimate styles although that's not to say that one or both can't be faked. They are two DIFFERENT styles and the details aren't going to match.

You state: "how come one has serial number and different creed patch and mine hasn't got one?"
My response: Many sellers don't know what to show and/or neglect to show all the required pictures but from what I saw, not a single listing that showed creeds for 71681 had a serial number on the creed.

You state: "If they are similar models how can coach not keep the details consistent?"
My response: Because if you've read any of TPF's Coach subforum over the years, you'll know that Coach's middle name is "INCONSISTENT!" And in fact we've said many times that "the most consistent thing about Coach is its inconsistency.

And there are even cases when depending on the year and the factory where a bag is made, some versions of the SAME STYLE can have a serial number and others have a white label with numbers.

You state: "Sure if it is a mff product why I can't find on the whole wide web a reliable source that sold this model? at least in the cache version..."
My response: Because not everything shows up on the web, reliable or not! However I did find Coach's OWN BLOG where they do show the style of YOUR BAG:

This is their June 10, 2015 blog post.
http://coachfactoryoutlets.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-coach-june-10-sales-event-2015_12.html
Check out #2. COACH f71681 - SLIM BRIEF IN CROSSGRAIN LEATHER - BLACK
COACH MSRP - $595
SALE - $269


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Again, I'll respectfully request that you post a link to the listing you bought so we can see the pictures in the listing.

Also, I'll repeat that there's NO indication that your bag is fake based on your pictures that you've posted so far.

I refuse to believe that Coach Outlet has a blogspot account. Nope that is an amateur blog directing to all kinds of websites managed by an user called HandHand Ba, whilst the information is like a tweet and may be accurate I just had to say it. It is another ting ting, serve for nothing page.

 

[BeenBurned]

T

I refuse to believe that Coach Outlet has a blogspot account. Nope that is an amateur blog directing to all kinds of websites managed by an user called HandHand Ba, whilst the information is like a tweet and may be accurate I just had to say it. It is another ting ting, serve for nothing page.

Okay, go pay $7.50 for a professional authentication. Chances are you'll get the same response(s) you got here. And hopefully, you'll be smart enough to use a company that knows the brands they authenticate.

Stitching is not reinforced but it looked odd because I red on a guide that these are not usual for Coach, that is a double stitching out of place and completely unnecessary, it is not for reinforcement.
In sewing, it's called back tacking and is necessary reinforcement done to help prevent (or minimize) unraveling of stitching.
Educate: Sewing Terms to Know - Threads


This together with the massive amount of results on google search from the Asian markets confused me (Malaysa, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, India, Japan and many more). I did not try to challenge your answers but merely to know the truth.
While there are a lot of fakes coming out of China (as well as the US, Europe, and every other country, for that matter), many Coach sellers in the US have Singaporan, Malaysian and other Asian buyers who purchase from here because Coach is very expensive in their country. They buy relatively inexpensively from American sellers and resell in their own countries on sites like tingtingchen, Rakuten, Carousel, Deluxemall and others.

look on this page: https://www.rakuten.com.tw/shop/topshopinc/product/ir6ayc7i5/ the picture is of a different model with f7681 number.
I'm not sure what model that is but since you were mixing up style numbers 71681 and 59057, is it not inconceivable that another seller might have done the same thing?

 

[Hyacinth]

Really helpful, learned a lot but it seems that you are over reacting, I asked for help and not drama. Glad you let of some steam though. Thanks for all the details, you obviously know more than me but put yourself in my shoes for a moment. I took everything on board and red everything.
(Is it here where you exploded?) - Don't need to check my dictionary so get off your high coach and understand what I meant. I'm sure you did.
Finally found the outlet website and surprise: the f59 model is shown there but not mine. I will try to get it with the caching website.
About the pictures, I have posted my own pictures with high resolution thinking that is better than that dark photo from the original listing.
Stitching is not reinforced but it looked odd because I red on a guide that these are not usual for Coach, that is a double stitching out of place and completely unnecessary, it is not for reinforcement. This together with the massive amount of results on google search from the Asian markets confused me (Malaysa, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, India, Japan and many more). I did not try to challenge your answers but merely to know the truth. look on this page: https://www.rakuten.com.tw/shop/topshopinc/product/ir6ayc7i5/ the picture is of a different model with f7681 number. Of course you don't even know what to think anymore. There were also pictures with smooth creed, with stitches on the side and not all over in a square, and generally there were more results for the f59 model, and it made me think that it was the original and this was a copy.
It's like the Samsung clones that look identical on the outside but something in the inside is changed. I had to be suspicious with good reasons.

I saw that Rakuten listing and it's apparently of a different style bag and can't be compared to the one you bought. Unless I can actually SEE a tag or patch with a valid serial number, I NEVER assume that a seller, or even a site as widely known as Rakuten, gets everything right. In fact it's usually the opposite.

In short - I beleive what I can see and validate. What some seller claims, whether it's a style's name, style number, age, or any other detail is just wishful thinking on their part until proven. Especially since Coach eleiminated the stamped serial numbers on the creeds back in 2014, a helluva lot of sellers have NO idea what the style number of the bag they're selling is, so they find one on Ebay that looks close and use that one. And to make the problem even worse, Coach for some unknown reason created FAKE serial numbers for some of their recent styles, the style number stamped on the patch isn't the same as the one on the tiny white tag inside the bag. When there's a discrepancy, the numbers on the tiny white tag are the ones that are correct.

Now - if you want to learn more, stick around. We love to share our knowledge because some of us actually do have egos and enjoy "showing off", but the thing is, we usually DO know what we're talking about 99.99 percent of the time. And we have every right, in our own minds anyway, to get PO'd when someone doesn't listen. If you'd spent 10 or 12 years learning a subject front to back (and maybe you HAVE), it's irritating as HE11 when someone doesn't think you know what you're talking about. Along with the ego thing there's also, at least in my case, a shortness of temper that comes with being almost 70 years old. And since I can't take it out at home, or scream at the neighborhood kids to "get off my lawn!", I let myself vent here. It doesn't mean I'm a BAD person, just that at my age I expect everyone to recognise my innate perfection, as well as that of my colleagues here on the boards.

We're some of the best you'll find when it comes to Coach and if you hang around you'll learn a lot, if you want to. Listen, and ask questions. And above all, never expect Coach or Coach products to be perfect, or Coach to do things for a logical or intelligent or even practical reason, because they don't and we've seen more than enough to prove it a hundred times over.

(Welcome to tPF, by the way. You've already been at the receiving end of one of my rants so that makes your membership official.)

 

[Hyacinth]

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I refuse to believe that Coach Outlet has a blogspot account. Nope that is an amateur blog directing to all kinds of websites managed by an user called HandHand Ba, whilst the information is like a tweet and may be accurate I just had to say it. It is another ting ting, serve for nothing page.

DAMMIT, Girl, you're NOT LISTENING.

I never said it was an official Coach site, did I? My exact words were "It's a BLOG AND REFERENCE SITE THAT LISTS CURRENT AND RECENT SALE PRICES AT THE COACH FACTORY STORES OUTLET SALES, JUST LIKE a site many of us use, "coachfactoryoutlets.blogspot.com". You couldn't buy anything from them if you tried. So how does that make them dodgy???" Why do you keep assuming things that aren't there? Of COURSE it's a personal blog, that's what blogs usually ARE. BOTH of those blogs are personal sites. You can figure out whether it's an official company page just by reading a few of the site details and doing a WhoIs search for where it originates!

You get an idea in your head and then it sticks there and you accept your conclusions as facts before they've been verified or shot down! And what it is, who writes it or whether they link to other sites they may have made or maybe just find interesting has nothing whatsoever to do with the bag you have.

I'm starting to lose my temper again - if you can't ASK QUESTIONS before jumping to conclusions, you have a serious problem. Or maybe it just means you have a potential career in politics ahead of you. Either way, you don't seem to be looking for valid answers, and I'm not interested in battles of wits or wills. Open your ears and your mind. You have the right to make up your own opinions, but you DON'T have the right to make up your own facts.

 

[BeenBurned]

DAMMIT, Girl, you're NOT LISTENING.

I never said it was an official Coach site, did I? Why do you keep assuming things that aren't there? Of COURSE it's a personal blog, that's what blogs ARE. You get an idea in your head and then it sticks there and you accept your conclusions as facts before they've been verified or shot down! And what it is, who writes it or whether they link to other sites they may have made or maybe just find interesting has nothing whatsoever to do with the bag you have.

I'm starting to lose my temper again - if you can't ASK QUESTIONS before jumping to conclusions, you have a serious problem. Or maybe it just means you have a potential career in politics ahead of you. Either way, you're not looking for valid answers, and I'm not interested in battles of wits or wills. Open your ears and your mind. You have the right to make up your own opinions, but you DON'T have the right to make up your own facts.

I'll take my whacks for that. It was I who implied (incorrectly) that the blog was Coach's.

But until Ashan decides to be less argumentative and opts to listen, I'm done with this discussion.

I'm still waiting for a link to the listing from which that briefcase was purchased, having requested it at least 3 times already!

 

[Hyacinth]

I'll take my whacks for that. It was I who implied (incorrectly) that the blog was Coach's.

But until Ashan decides to be less argumentative and opts to listen, I'm done with this discussion.

I'm still waiting for a link to the listing from which that briefcase was purchased, having requested it at least 3 times already!

It's becoming more and more obvious that she doesn't want answers, she wants to be told that she's right. And THAT dog don't hunt.

 

[Lake Effect]

Damn. I've never been a receiving end of a rant. Well , yet . Oh wait that's right, I usually post links and photos when asked when I am getting free and probably the best Coach authentication around in, forget 24 hours, several hours.
Going to make a cup a tea and catch up on reading here. Amazon prime video can wait!