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#11,746
Hyacinth said:
Yep, I see the difference, momentum keeps them upright once they get up to one of the trotting or running gaits. I grew up close to Sportsmans and Hawthorne racetracks, so we always got a few minutes of racing film on the nightly news, mostly the harness meetings And I'm just being a PITA for the helluvit, because it still looks to me that the poor critter on the charm is walking, otherwise its tail would be streaming out behind it (although maybe trotters and pacers have their tails held down somehow so the driver doesn't keep getting smacked in the face with a tail-full of horsehair). All my real-time race-watching experience has been with thoroughbreds rather than standardbreds.

And thanks for explaining! :smile:
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LOL - artistic license?
 

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Catbird9 said:
LOL - artistic license?
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I guess! Coach seems to take this "artistic license" excuse a little too far sometimes.

And wow, do the drivers really use an almost horizontal position now? I remember them being a lot more vertical but that was at least 40 years ago, and I suppose anything they can do to improve the aerodynamics of the package probably helps.
 
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#11,750
whateve said:
Please ID this Gramercy satchel that has no serial number. It is 10 1/2 inches long, 6 1/2 inches tall, and almost 4 inches deep. All the other View attachment 3647797 View attachment 3647798 View attachment 3647799 details match my other Gramercy.
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The one we have here in the workshop that looks identical to the one you show is identified as style #7003 from late 1998 (L8E-7003). I don't have the actual name for it though. Indeed it is similar in both size and shape to the #7001 Gramercy Zip, except with dual handles and a removable long strap. Does anyone have the Gramercy catalog insert from that period?
 
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RL Bernstein said:
The one we have here in the workshop that looks identical to the one you show is identified as style #7003 from late 1998 (L8E-7003). I don't have the actual name for it though. Indeed it is similar in both size and shape to the #7001 Gramercy Zip, except with dual handles and a removable long strap. Does anyone have the Gramercy catalog insert from that period?
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Thank you! Yours has a number? I wonder why this one doesn't. I have 7001 and it has a number.
I have these catalog pages. If you put them together, the description is on one page and the picture is on the other. I didn't know for sure that picture went with that description.
 

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One of the Italian leatherworkers must have had their mind on something else and sewed the patch in prior to stamping the identification number.

Thanks for the catalog pages, but now they've raised another question. I've a beechnut colored bag identified as style #7008 that looks similar the #7004 N/S Satchel shown (and shares the same basic dimensions). The strap on the #7008 though appears to be mounted around an inch lower on the bag when compared to the #7004 and its zipper is full length (extending to the bottom of the bag whereas the #7004 appears to have short side panels extending a couple of inches up from the bottom). So perhaps those differences were deemed sufficient to warrant their own unique style numbers.
 
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RL Bernstein said:
One of the Italian leatherworkers must have had their mind on something else and sewed the patch in prior to stamping the identification number.

Thanks for the catalog pages, but now they've raised another question. I've a beechnut colored bag identified as style #7008 that looks similar the #7004 N/S Satchel shown (and shares the same basic dimensions). The strap on the #7008 though appears to be mounted around an inch lower on the bag when compared to the #7004 and its zipper is full length (extending to the bottom of the bag whereas the #7004 appears to have short side panels extending a couple of inches up from the bottom). So perhaps those differences were deemed sufficient to warrant their own unique style numbers.
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I think they look quite different.
 

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whateve said:
Thank you. Do you think it is a problem that mine has no number?
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No. Mistakes happened, and I doubt if Coach would have just discarded an expensive bag like a Gramercy just because the plant employees forgot to stamp a serial number. As long as the basic details match your other Gramercy it's not a problem unless you want to sell it.
 
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