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#9,256
BeenBurned said:
Without intending to come off as attacking you, your problem demonstrates precisely why we advise buyers to make sure items they bid on or purchase are the same item they will receive.

And we advise against sellers who use someone else's pictures to sell an item.

Although you purchased the wallet from the ebay seller, in using the seller's pictures, you've not only infringed on the seller's copyrighted work (unless you obtained her permission first) but you have no way to prove that what your buyer received is the item pictured.

While I don't see anything that indicates that the wallet you bought (as shown in the ebay listing) is fake, what I'd need to see are pictures that your buyer took of the wallet she claims is fake.

If she shows pictures of the exact same wallet with the identical pattern placement, I would deem it as authentic, but in the future, if you sell on ebay, etsy, tophatter or any other site, use your own pictures so you have proof that you have the actual item in your possession and that it's the item that the buyer will receive.
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I normally take all my own pictures, there were extenuating circumstances that prevented me from taking my own at that time. I'm not sure what it has to do with the situation, though.

And I don't understand your logic. The pictures I posted in the listing are the same ones I saw when I bought that item, so it IS that item. I might understand if I used stock photos, or someone else' photos that were not of the item I purchased, but not in this case.

Furthermore, if I asked her for pictures, they would be of the same exact wallet pictured here, so they would be unnecessary, since I am asking about the wallet I pictured here.

If I had purchased this wallet for my personal use and linked you to the very same pictures I've already linked to, what would your answer be?

By the way, although I'm new to the board as a poster, I have been using it for reference for the past 2 years. I have been buying and reselling pre owned and new coach products for 2 years as well. I have no doubts as to the authenticity of this wallet. I am positive it's authentic, however, I felt that having some backup might help me if she insists that the wallet is not. I am also well aware of copyright infringement. I create my listings in advance and use the photos from the listing I purchased as placeholders so that when the bag arrives I can take my own photos and upload them. As I said earlier, there were circumstances that prevented me from using my own photos.
 
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#9,258
ValentinasVault said:
I normally take all my own pictures, there were extenuating circumstances that prevented me from taking my own at that time. I'm not sure what it has to do with the situation, though.

And I don't understand your logic. The pictures I posted in the listing are the same ones I saw when I bought that item, so it IS that item. I might understand if I used stock photos, or someone else' photos that were not of the item I purchased, but not in this case.

Furthermore, if I asked her for pictures, they would be of the same exact wallet pictured here, so they would be unnecessary, since I am asking about the wallet I pictured here.

If I had purchased this wallet for my personal use and linked you to the very same pictures I've already linked to, what would your answer be?
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As I stated (and this discussion would probably be better suited for the "authenticate this Coach" section), the wallet pictured by the seller you purchased from looks okay.

The reason for my logic is that it's possible that your seller may not have sent you the exact wallet that she'd listed. There are a couple of reasons that could have been. (These are hypothetical examples and I'm not implying that either is the case; just explaining possiblities as my logic.)
1. She may shop the outlets, purchase multiples and use the same pictures for each listing. If that's the case, the wallet pictured may NOT have been the one you received. The pattern placement could vary slightly. Although another authentic wallet would have the pattern centered, it might be slightly higher or lower with the Cs. Many sellers do that and in most cases, there's no issue because buyers don't scrutinize the pattern placement without cause, but in cases where there's a dispute, it's important to be able to prove that the item received is the same one as purchased.
2. There's no proof that the seller's pictures in the listing are her own. (They are, but your buyer doesn't know where you got it.)

I did find an example of a similar checkbook wallet in the same colors, style 45105. Although 45105 isn't sateen, the pattern and colors are close enough to demonstrate the differences I'm talking about. It's not something that immediately noticeable although something that would be scrutinized in the event of a dispute.

Note that the comparison I'm making is simply to point out to you why it's so important to take your own pictures, show buyers the actual item they'll receive and be able to prove that the allegation of fake is wrong.

The following image shows the slightly different pattern placement. The wallet in the pictures you used shows the pattern as being slightly higher than on the other wallet.



Again, as long as the buyer received the same wallet as shown in the ebay listing (and subsequently in the Tophatter listing), I believe she got an authentic wallet.
 
#9,259
Finch said:
Does anyone know the name of this style? It is not a cross body.
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Whenever you ask about items that don't have the style number in the creed, it is important to include the measurements. This is probably a classic pouch 9170, also called a classic shoulder bag, from the early 70s. It was called the original Coach bag. Measurements are approximately 10 by 8 1/2 by 3 1/2 inches.
 
#9,260
whateve said:
Whenever you ask about items that don't have the style number in the creed, it is important to include the measurements. This is probably a classic pouch 9170, also called a classic shoulder bag, from the early 70s. It was called the original Coach bag. Measurements are approximately 10 by 8 1/2 by 3 1/2 inches.
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Thank you! Measured it and those were the measurements.

ETA

By chance do you know what color that is? I've seen Hyacinth's hangtag swatches but none of them show the 70s lines.
 
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Cameochi said:
I've attached a link to the long handled flight bag I just purchased - made in NYC. Would someone please tell me the correct style number and name? My other one is a 9706 but I have no idea what this one is. As always, any info will be greatly appreciated. :-)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351231456978?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Nice! That is the bag I've been looking for. I've never found a style number for this one or confirmation that it has the same style number as the other.
 
#9,269
whateve said:
Nice! That is the bag I've been looking for. I've never found a style number for this one or confirmation that it has the same style number as the other.
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Thanks, Whateve. I am going to use what I have then. At least I will know what it's supposed to be. On another list, it was shown as a regular Skinny Flight bag and now I know why. If I ever find out there is another name or style number, I will let everyone know. :-)
 
#9,270
Hello everybody. Can you please authenticate a Coach item for me?

It's a Coach patent leather wristlet in orange.
I bought it online early this year from a groupbuy deal site.

I suspect it is a counterfeit because it did not come with a dust bag, it was wrapped in plastic, and the receipt is fake - it states a tote bag! There is also no creed, no serial number, and it says made in China. The bottom corners were poorly sewn they are detached on both sides.

Below are the pictures:



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Thank you for your help.
 
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