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Hyacinth is considerably more skilled in authenticating classic bags but I was going to comment anyway that the font and imprinting on the listing from seller intuuit56 looked off.

The whole creed looks funny, including stamping borders, fonts and the lining doesn't look like the right fabric.

I did find what I believe to be a genuine B7D creed. It's very different from the wannabe flatiron.

Here is intuuit56's:
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And the following is from a current listing:

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Yep, and I've found a few others from months on either side of February 1997. The one thing that makes me hesitate to say it's fake is that the questionable creed is the only stamping I can find that's stamped onto a patch sewn onto a lining instead of just onto the inside pocket. I really don't know if the stamps for the 2 processes would have been different or not but can't say real or fake with any certainty.

The unusually thick font of the serial digits is also a problem, along with the older style logo. And having a good idea of what the older stamping mechanism looked like at least for the pre-1994 bags, I wonder if they might have gone to a new and more compact design when they started stamping on patches instead of pockets. Check out the creed stamper from 1987, it almost looks like a small hydraulic press:
 

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Yep, and I've found a few others from months on either side of February 1997. The one thing that makes me hesitate to say it's fake is that the questionable creed is the only stamping I can find that's stamped onto a patch sewn onto a lining instead of just onto the inside pocket. I really don't know if the stamps for the 2 processes would have been different or not but can't say real or fake with any certainty.

The unusually thick font of the serial digits is also a problem, along with the older style logo. And having a good idea of what the older stamping mechanism looked like at least for the pre-1994 bags, I wonder if they might have gone to a new and more compact design when they started stamping on patches instead of pockets. Check out the creed stamper from 1987, it almost looks like a small hydraulic press:
Interesting! I wonder if they used the same type of stamper when they made the glued-in serial numbers and then just cut them out afterwards.
 
I think someone asked about it before. It's a lot like a Flight Bag except for the longer straps, no removeable shoulder strap, and a different kind of base. I still can't find it.
Thanks. They did make a version of the flight bag with longer straps instead of the separate shoulder strap but it was made out of the same kind of leather as the flight bag. The way those strips of leather with the rings go all the way to the bottom of the bag remind me of the soft satchel. So maybe this is a Lightweights Flight bag.
 
It certainly is! :D

Very nice, and sooo tempting, but I really want a red one!

It's trying to be a Flatiron, but I'm not sure if it's genuine. That line was sometimes faked, in fact there's a fake in Completeds for a 4177 with a J4K- prefix and the Flatirons weren't made any time close to 1994.

The creed on the one you asked about isn't the same as on the fake one. But it's the only one I've found so far with a D plant code AND the fonts don't match the other serial numbers from the D plant in 1997 or from the later months of 1996. The Coach logo above the creed also is in the older "fat" font which had already been replaced at least a year before by the newer thinner logo font.

I don't advide bidding on it but haven't found a genuine serial with the same prefix that would prove it fake. It may still be ok but I just can't verify it. IF it's genuine it would be a Flatiron Zip.

Hyacinth is considerably more skilled in authenticating classic bags but I was going to comment anyway that the font and imprinting on the listing from seller intuuit56 looked off.

The whole creed looks funny, including stamping borders, fonts and the lining doesn't look like the right fabric.

I did find what I believe to be a genuine B7D creed. It's very different from the wannabe flatiron.

Here is intuuit56's:
$_57.JPG


And the following is from a current listing:

$%28KGrHqVHJ%210FJ3DSyLR3BSeUqC2j4%21%7E%7E60_57.JPG

I agree, I wouldn't go near a bag with that thick font.

Thanks everyone. I will heed your advice.
 
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