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[ledobe]

If you look really closely you can see the Gramercy leather texture, which does look a lot like a Saffiano style. Coach isn't ashamed to copy from itself.

Woot! Thanks for posting pix catalog pic of my powder blue N-S satchel!

I've been saying the safiano looks like the Gramercy texture since they previewed it. Worked out well for me because it helped keep me from spending any money on the new styles!

 

[ledobe]

I've never gotten or seen a Gramercy IRL but I've seen a lot of them on ebay that look beat up. I don't think the textured leather on these is as hearty as on the Madisons or Sheridans. I've been afraid to buy one.

I love the quotes!

I was lucky with mine they are in good shape. I have the n/s and small satchel in black also. The powder blue has some flaws. Mostly it was just pretty dirty and it cleaned up ok, butdon't think there is anyway to really fix flaws in this style like the wrinkles on the side or surface scratches.

 

[BeenBurned]

The creed:-/

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Wait for more opinions. I'm not familiar with the style and the others that come up in Ebay search aren't any help. Please double check the serial number to see if it actually ends in -14561.

In the future, please authenticate at the Authenticate This Coach thread under Coach Shopping.

Very odd. I don't see anything wrong with it besides the creed. The style number should be 17941. I think it could have been a sample bag, made before these went into production. Of course, there is no way to prove that unless it came with some kind of documentation.

Or possibly one of the Philippine-made fakes that often get the serial number wrong. But either one may be impossible to prove.

Thanks! I'm pretty sure it's a fake-it's PreOwned and I purchased it locally for $50. Of course this is one I had been looking for and watching one identical to it on Ebay. Everything looked good right down to the Poppy tag. I asked her for the number inside and ........ She said she was at work and could get it when she got home. I thought it all looked good-told her it was fine-I didn't need it...... Not really trying to Authenticate it-it's counterfeit -my girls are carrying their Barbies around in it. I just wanted to vent somewhere and Both of you know your Coach very well. I've learned quite a bit from Hyacinth-but apparently I need to keep learning thanks again! I think you both are awesome!!

You're welcome! Anyone would have been fooled unless they had the style number memorized.

In October, you posted here: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-483.html#post25603789

and asked about this bag:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-POPPY...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Is that one ^^^ your purchase in January? Or did you not buy the one you'd asked about in October. Did that seller ever send the creed picture as requested here:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-483.html#post25605332

I'm curious whether that bag might have had the wrong style number too.

I wish the other listings showed creeds. I couldn't find a single creed pic either listed or google images.

 

[whateve]

In October, you posted here: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-483.html#post25603789

and asked about this bag:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-POPPY...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Is that one ^^^ your purchase in January? Or did you not buy the one you'd asked about in October. Did that seller ever send the creed picture as requested here:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-483.html#post25605332

I'm curious whether that bag might have had the wrong style number too.

I wish the other listings showed creeds. I couldn't find a single creed pic either listed or google images.

These have creed pictures but they are almost impossible to read since it is patent. http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-F1169...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Poppy...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[BeenBurned]

These have creed pictures but they are almost impossible to read since it is patent. http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-F1169...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Poppy...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I saw those listings last night. They were useless!

Coach could have goofed but without good pictures, it's impossible to know for sure.

There's nothing else in the pictures posted by the buyer to indicate that the bag is fake. But I certainly do understand her concern.

 

[Ishop4me]

The one I asked about in October was the one I had been wanting and watching on Ebay-but never purchased. I actually forgot about it until this one came up locally at a fantastic price. Everything looked good compared to other ones I'd found online. I was a bit iffy about it after I had picked it up as I noticed the rings on the handles weren't complete circles- I googled the style number and a Poppy came up but not the same bag. I did go back and look at the one I'd asked about and everything looks the same as the one I purchased even the rings-Except this one is missing a shoulder strap and the heart Hangtag. I'm located in North Carolina-outside of a Military town with very transient people -some have been stationed in other countries-which makes me think-counterfeit. Im good at spotting the counterfeits (but still have trouble with the vintage ones) I'm pretty sure someone along the Coach chain would have caught a style number mistake before it left the store. I've sent her a message asking where she purchased it from but haven't received a response. I'm chalking it up to experience. Thank ALL of you for your time and your knowledge-this has been an interesting lesson.

 

[BeenBurned]

The one I asked about in October was the one I had been wanting and watching on Ebay-but never purchased. I actually forgot about it until this one came up locally at a fantastic price. Everything looked good compared to other ones I'd found online. I was a bit iffy about it after I had picked it up as I noticed the rings on the handles weren't complete circles- I googled the style number and a Poppy came up but not the same bag. I did go back and look at the one I'd asked about and everything looks the same as the one I purchased even the rings-Except this one is missing a shoulder strap and the heart Hangtag. I'm located in North Carolina-outside of a Military town with very transient people -some have been stationed in other countries-which makes me think-counterfeit. Im good at spotting the counterfeits (but still have trouble with the vintage ones) I'm pretty sure someone along the Coach chain would have caught a style number mistake before it left the store. I've sent her a message asking where she purchased it from but haven't received a response. I'm chalking it up to experience. Thank ALL of you for your time and your knowledge-this has been an interesting lesson.

It might be fake but without another to compare and check to see whether a whole batch may have had incorrect style stamps, we can't know.

As for the missing strap and hangtag, removable and replaceable items can't be used to determine authenticity. I've seen fakes with authentic hangtags and authentic bags with fake hangtags and non-Coach straps.

I sure wish some of the listings had good creed photos.

 

[Two.time.bags]

Is this a Flatiron, please?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...430?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c7cf971e6

 

[Two.time.bags]

Is this a Roswell, please?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Coach-B...457?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a8bf8c0b9

 

[Rexyrip]

Can someone please help me identify this bag? Anyone know what it might be worth? I believe its from 2007. Thanks for all the help

 

[Hyacinth]

Can someone please help me identify this bag? Anyone know what it might be worth? I believe its from 2007. Thanks for all the help

Try asking at the Chanel forum:

http://forum.purseblog.com/chanel/help-identify-this-chanel-422984.html

 

[Hyacinth]

Is this a Roswell, please?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Coach-B...457?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a8bf8c0b9

It certainly is!

 

[Hyacinth]

Is this a Flatiron, please?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...430?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c7cf971e6

It's trying to be a Flatiron, but I'm not sure if it's genuine. That line was sometimes faked, in fact there's a fake in Completeds for a 4177 with a J4K- prefix and the Flatirons weren't made any time close to 1994.

The creed on the one you asked about isn't the same as on the fake one. But it's the only one I've found so far with a D plant code AND the fonts don't match the other serial numbers from the D plant in 1997 or from the later months of 1996. The Coach logo above the creed also is in the older "fat" font which had already been replaced at least a year before by the newer thinner logo font.

I don't advide bidding on it but haven't found a genuine serial with the same prefix that would prove it fake. It may still be ok but I just can't verify it. IF it's genuine it would be a Flatiron Zip.

 

[BeenBurned]

Is this a Flatiron, please?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...430?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c7cf971e6

It's trying to be a Flatiron, but I'm not sure if it's genuine. That line was sometimes faked, in fact there's a fake in Completeds for a 4177 with a J4K- prefix and the Flatirons weren't made any time close to 1994.

The creed on the one you asked about isn't the same as on the fake one. But it's the only one I've found so far with a D plant code AND the fonts don't match the other serial numbers from the D plant in 1997 or from the later months of 1996. The Coach logo above the creed also is in the older "fat" font which had already been replaced at least a year before by the newer thinner logo font.

I don't advide bidding on it but haven't found a genuine serial with the same prefix that would prove it fake. It may still be ok but I just can't verify it. IF it's genuine it would be a Flatiron Zip.

Hyacinth is considerably more skilled in authenticating classic bags but I was going to comment anyway that the font and imprinting on the listing from seller intuuit56 looked off.

The whole creed looks funny, including stamping borders, fonts and the lining doesn't look like the right fabric.

I did find what I believe to be a genuine B7D creed. It's very different from the wannabe flatiron.

Here is intuuit56's:

And the following is from a current listing:

 

[whateve]

Hyacinth is considerably more skilled in authenticating classic bags but I was going to comment anyway that the font and imprinting on the listing from seller intuuit56 looked off.

The whole creed looks funny, including stamping borders, fonts and the lining doesn't look like the right fabric.

I did find what I believe to be a genuine B7D creed. It's very different from the wannabe flatiron.

Here is intuuit56's:

And the following is from a current listing:

I agree, I wouldn't go near a bag with that thick font.