How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

So you're claiming that she never had cancer, but has been off having facelifts, is that correct?

No, I am just reporting what X twitter is debating in the UK. Posts like this are all over X twitter. Only the Royal Family know the truth and Kensington Palace staff are aware she has had plastic surgery procedures (according to my friend who is friends with a mother whose daughter works there) but cannot speak as they signed a NDA. In my opinion if she had chemo, she should have alopecia. Here is a cancer victim posting a disgruntled post.

 

[Transformation2021]

No, I am just reporting what X twitter is debating in the UK. Posts like this are all over X twitter. Only the Royal Family know the truth and Kensington Palace staff are aware she has had plastic surgery procedures (according to my friend who is friends with a mother whose daughter works there) but cannot speak as they signed a NDA. In my opinion if she had chemo, she should have alopecia. Here is a cancer victim posting a disgruntled post.

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My bestie who had ovarian cancer and eventually died from it, had many rounds of chemo and she never lost her hair. It was as thick as when she was a teenager.

 

[eener]

Okay I had to google Korean defamation laws and wow! They can prosecute locals for telling the truth! It seems this carries up to 2 years in prison and a max of 5 million won fine ($4k) and if non Korean may lead to deportation. The case may be held in court and you found guilty in absentia but they are not going to extradite you for this. Prison is unlikely for a first offence.

Knowing this, I guess if you are a foreigner and leave a negative plastic surgery review best to stay away from Korea. Thank goodness my plastic surgery journey is over in Korea and I found a great and affordable UK plastic surgeon to keep me youthful.

Hi Miss Orange, I am Eurasian, though I look more on the Asian side and looking for a good but affordable plastic surgeon for a face lift and fat transfer (including sorting out my eyes which are beginning to drop at the corners). Are you able to recommend one in Korea (kr anywhere else), or share your person in the UK? am in Australia where fat grafting is not practised widely and still in its infancy. I feel completely overwhelmed trying to work out where to go and feel like I am going round in circles (if I had an unlimited budget it would be easy). Your work looks amazing and I would appreciate your advice. Regards

 

[Lobelia]

Which Korean plastic clinics would you recommend for face lift, fat grafting and bullhorn lip lift please?

 

[eener]

And @MissOrange if you could also recommend somewhere for eyes - like where you got yours done and what you had done? I have Asian shaped eyes and would like someone who understands those. Regards

 

[MissOrange]

Today’s tip is on dress code when attending a plastic surgery consultation. A friend told me she donned her best dress with high heels and got many compliments in the clinic! She also got upsold to the tune of £21,000! Ladies and gents, please dress down. It is just common sense. I wore charity shop secondhand clothes with cheap trainers. I was asked if my jumper was cashmere. I replied,” yes it is and I bought it for £5 at my local Mind charity shop.” Staff and surgeons notice attire! It is at consultation they may try to upsell you if they perceive you are rich! My quote was £3495 and no upselling. Do NOT wear North Face or Canada Goose parkas in winter. They will ask you where you are staying. I told them the local travelodge (a 2 star hotel). If you say the name of a 5 star hotel, be sure the quote will be £20,000+. But maybe you are a multimillionaire and cost is not an issue. The worst scenario is if you are poor, yet perceived as rich by your attire and given a quote over £20,000.

I was always amazed when I sat in the DA hospital lobby in Seoul and saw all these young rich Asians with their designer bags and clothes sitting and waiting to be seen. I thought to myself, the translator consultants may have a field day upselling and may even try to double the price of procedures for Chinese foreigners. Just saying you are from the US or UK, ensures the big clinics in Korea may want to charge you premium prices.

Even in UK plastic surgery clinics, I have never dressed up and they have never seen me in a dress or high heels but always dressed down at postop visits too! Humility gets you everywhere in life!

Another tip is to be humble and grateful at consult. I have seen patients ask a zillion questions and demand their full hour even though it was given as a favour for free! If I had been offered a free consult, I would only take 5 minutes of the valuable surgeon’s time. I would feel enormously guilty if I dared take a full hour for free?! If the patient is arrogant and doesn’t say thank you for being given a £150 consult for free, then the surgeon may want to recoup this by upselling.

My surgeon has given free surgical procedures in and amongst that which has been paid for if he feels it will improve the aesthetics, money is an issue and the patient is very humble, courteous and grateful. After all he is human and we tend to go out of our way when treated with respect and humility. A surgeon who feels talked down to may ‘turf’ the patient to another colleague.

Even if you are unhappy with your result, there is a way to ask for a free revision. The worst way is to yell and threaten. The best way is to ask humbly and show evidence of before and after photos and remember to praise and thank the surgeon for his time and consideration.

We talk about a surgeon’s bedside manner but we never discuss the patient’s. Just as some surgeons may be arrogant and off-putting, so may some patients be arrogant, entitled and demanding.

PS anyone asking me to recommend a surgeon, please note I am not a charity. Read all 290 pages of my free blog thread here. Or if you want a private message opinion, then pay for my time. A US Chinese doctor friend charges 5 figures medical concierge fee! He saved over $10,000 by taking my free ps advice and getting his eyes done by my Korean surgeon. Enough with the free personal advice. I feel taken advantage of!

 

[weewee]

Hi @weewee, get the 10 mg tablet so you can then take between 20 and 40 mg a day depending on the severity of the swelling.

Hi @MissOrange. I missed this message. I bought the prednisone 20mg---50x for US$27. Actually what's the difference between the prednisone vs prednisolone. I know they both the same for swellen but just curious, one of them is lower on the mg.
Thank you so much xoxoxo

 

[eener]

Today’s tip is on dress code when attending a plastic surgery consultation. A friend told me she donned her best dress with high heels and got many compliments in the clinic! She also got upsold to the tune of £21,000! Ladies and gents, please dress down. It is just common sense. I wore charity shop secondhand clothes with cheap trainers. I was asked if my jumper was cashmere. I replied,” yes it is and I bought it for £5 at my local Mind charity shop.” Staff and surgeons notice attire! It is at consultation they may try to upsell you if they perceive you are rich! My quote was £3495 and no upselling. Do NOT wear North Face or Canada Goose parkas in winter. They will ask you where you are staying. I told them the local travelodge (a 2 star hotel). If you say the name of a 5 star hotel, be sure the quote will be £20,000+. But maybe you are a multimillionaire and cost is not an issue. The worst scenario is if you are poor, yet perceived as rich by your attire and given a quote over £20,000.

I was always amazed when I sat in the DA hospital lobby in Seoul and saw all these young rich Asians with their designer bags and clothes sitting and waiting to be seen. I thought to myself, the translator consultants may have a field day upselling and may even try to double the price of procedures for Chinese foreigners. Just saying you are from the US or UK, ensures the big clinics in Korea may want to charge you premium prices.

Even in UK plastic surgery clinics, I have never dressed up and they have never seen me in a dress or high heels but always dressed down at postop visits too! Humility gets you everywhere in life!

Another tip is to be humble and grateful at consult. I have seen patients ask a zillion questions and demand their full hour even though it was given as a favour for free! If I had been offered a free consult, I would only take 5 minutes of the valuable surgeon’s time. I would feel enormously guilty if I dared take a full hour for free?! If the patient is arrogant and doesn’t say thank you for being given a £150 consult for free, then the surgeon may want to recoup this by upselling.

My surgeon has given free surgical procedures in and amongst that which has been paid for if he feels it will improve the aesthetics, money is an issue and the patient is very humble, courteous and grateful. After all he is human and we tend to go out of our way when treated with respect and humility. A surgeon who feels talked down to may ‘turf’ the patient to another colleague.

Even if you are unhappy with your result, there is a way to ask for a free revision. The worst way is to yell and threaten. The best way is to ask humbly and show evidence of before and after photos and remember to praise and thank the surgeon for his time and consideration.

We talk about a surgeon’s bedside manner but we never discuss the patient’s. Just as some surgeons may be arrogant and off-putting, so may some patients be arrogant, entitled and demanding.

PS anyone asking me to recommend a surgeon, please note I am not a charity. Read all 290 pages of my free blog thread here. Or if you want a private message opinion, then pay for my time. A US Chinese doctor friend charges 5 figures medical concierge fee! He saved over $10,000 by taking my free ps advice and getting his eyes done by my Korean surgeon. Enough with the free personal advice. I feel taken advantage of!

I am new to this forum, and thought it was about sharing information. If you have already made recommendations through your 290 pp thread then I’ll see how I go. No need for the attitude. Cheers

 

[MissOrange]

Today I learned a new term called 'fivehead' for when the forehead or 'fourhead' becomes wider or longer so four becomes a five!

This also comes from aging and can be fixed either by forehead reduction or hair transplant. I chose the latter.

 

[Sophia Virginara]

Giovanni Botti, I believe

Thank you

 

[Sophia Virginara]

I noticed I was getting a nlf and marionette on my pescetarian vegan hardly any protein diet and remembered that protein improves the collagen in the face. Also tpfers in Korea back in 2016 told me to stop wearing aging eyeshadow. Here is my 58 yo face just now looking young again without eyeshadow and after a few days of eating kfc skin on chicken, avocados, berries, burger whopper meat, wagamama katsu chicken, grilled chicken, etc. And here is the official list of foods to improve the collagen in your face to remove lines and wrinkles. https://www.eatingwell.com/article/7896640/best-foods-to-eat-for-a-collagen-boost/

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Hi MissOrange! Your posts are useful and inspiring as always.

I’m dying to know:

1. What are your skincare and make up products.
2. Your basic make up routine.
3. Supplements you use.
4. Do you apply your make up with a brush or your fingers? I read that overuse of brushes disrupts skins pH, which depletes the protective acid mantle and can cause increased oil production. And can cause skin irritation, inflammation, and acne breakouts. My make up artist friend says using make up brushes on a daily basis tend to stretch the skin… not sure if I believe it…

Thank you 💞

 

[6098Sophia]

But why would a clinic do DP when you've only paid for SMAS? Profit wise it sounds illogical. BTW almost 100% of DP are done under local with sedation and every doctor who does local w sedation claims it is a safety factor.

I'm so confused! This SMAS lift info says they do cut retaining ligaments and it's necessary to do so?

 

[pasteli]

(I've been using google website translate as their english website doesn't have detailed info) does this look like actual SMAS surgery or just another 'fake' one? They claim to have 'SMAS' and 'MACS' as their surgical lifting options. This place apparently does good DJS so I'd love if I could get lifting and DJS at the same time! But I don't want to get the 'retaining ligaments' and all that cut and risk more sagging, especially since I'm still young for a facelift. Thanks in advance everyone!

 

[MissOrange]

Hi

Hi MissOrange! Your posts are useful and inspiring as always.

I’m dying to know:

1. What are your skincare and make up products.
2. Your basic make up routine.
3. Supplements you use.
4. Do you apply your make up with a brush or your fingers? I read that overuse of brushes disrupts skins pH, which depletes the protective acid mantle and can cause increased oil production. And can cause skin irritation, inflammation, and acne breakouts. My make up artist friend says using make up brushes on a daily basis tend to stretch the skin… not sure if I believe it…

Thank you

Hi @Sophia Virginara, No I do not use makeup brushes as they can harbour bacteria and cause acne bacterial infection. I use my fingers to apply my Shiseido foundation. I have added vitamin E supplement which has helped lighten a couple of sun spots on my cheeks.

 

[6098Sophia]

No, I am just reporting what X twitter is debating in the UK. Posts like this are all over X twitter. Only the Royal Family know the truth and Kensington Palace staff are aware she has had plastic surgery procedures (according to my friend who is friends with a mother whose daughter works there) but cannot speak as they signed a NDA. In my opinion if she had chemo, she should have alopecia. Here is a cancer victim posting a disgruntled post.

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No one looks that good after multiple rounds of chemo, even with the best hair and makeup artists. As someone who saw the debilitating effects of chemo on my mother I'm appalled at this 'cancer' story