How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Hi @6098Sophia you look fab and beautiful. You already look 25 so no surgeon will believe you are 40. You don’t need anything now, not even lipo. Lipo stretches the skin as it floods the area with tumescent fluid that swells up the area and takes months to reabsorb. No facial or neck lipo! I have seen too many bad results. If you wanted to look 20 then a bit of upper lid fat graft to fill the hollow but that is all. The minor jowls actually make you look younger like baby fat. And definitely no J plasma tightening with heat based radiofrequency! Why risk swelling, redness, skin discoloration, burns and nerve damage for a non surgical procedure? I have seen too many ladies get deformed by laser to the face, TL subcision, etc. Be careful as you have nothing that needs fixing now and if you fall into the greedy trap like I have in the past, you may pay the price with complications and wish you could turn back the clock. Oh how I regretted my first ever full face fat graft that swelled and deformed my face. At the time I didn’t need it but an American in Korea was saying how youthful it made her with a round baby forehead.

I, like you, wanted something done in Korea. In fact for a while I was obsessed with zygoma reduction as I wanted a thinner and smaller face, but many tpfers said I didn’t need it and pointed out the complications in those who had done it. It was actually a patient of a famous Korean clinic on instagram who shared privately how she regretted having it done. But then when I saw the results of zygoma reduction in an American Asian who went to Girin I was again super tempted. Then reality dawned on me that my body may very well react to the titanium and I would be in eternal agony and no one in the UK would know how to remove the screws or even agree to do this. So I let go of this obsession.
@MissOrange do you think that double chin lipo is fine if one takes steroids for a few days after? I do have a double chin im trying to get rid of. And mini-lipo seems so easy for getting rid of that.
 
Hi @6098Sophia you look fab and beautiful. You already look 25 so no surgeon will believe you are 40. You don’t need anything now, not even lipo. Lipo stretches the skin as it floods the area with tumescent fluid that swells up the area and takes months to reabsorb. No facial or neck lipo! I have seen too many bad results. If you wanted to look 20 then a bit of upper lid fat graft to fill the hollow but that is all. The minor jowls actually make you look younger like baby fat. And definitely no J plasma tightening with heat based radiofrequency! Why risk swelling, redness, skin discoloration, burns and nerve damage for a non surgical procedure? I have seen too many ladies get deformed by laser to the face, TL subcision, etc. Be careful as you have nothing that needs fixing now and if you fall into the greedy trap like I have in the past, you may pay the price with complications and wish you could turn back the clock. Oh how I regretted my first ever full face fat graft that swelled and deformed my face. At the time I didn’t need it but an American in Korea was saying how youthful it made her with a round baby forehead.

I, like you, wanted something done in Korea. In fact for a while I was obsessed with zygoma reduction as I wanted a thinner and smaller face, but many tpfers said I didn’t need it and pointed out the complications in those who had done it. It was actually a patient of a famous Korean clinic on instagram who shared privately how she regretted having it done. But then when I saw the results of zygoma reduction in an American Asian who went to Girin I was again super tempted. Then reality dawned on me that my body may very well react to the titanium and I would be in eternal agony and no one in the UK would know how to remove the screws or even agree to do this. So I let go of this obsession.
Thanks so much! You are great for my ego 🥰 I contacted a surgeon here in Oz Dr Scott Turner and he suggested a short scar facelift. I also contacted ASPS clinic and am awaiting their recommendations.I appreciate what you're saying about waiting til my jowls worsen. I think I'm too hyper focused on my appearance lately. Thanks for your kind words
 
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For those on a budget who do not have an inheritance to spend, I would say the one procedure that reverses aging the most is the eyes, the windows of the world. In 2016 the stirling pound was strong against the won so I paid £1667 (3-3.5 million won) for revision DES, ptosis correction and upper lid fat graft. In 2024 Dr Hyoseok Seo is charging a friend 4 million or $3300 for the same, same surgeon and same op but 8 years later. I like how he prices fairly and this one procedure can change the aged face dramatically.

Here are photos of the procedure during my short stay in Korea in 2016 going to MVP for the first time and having my first plastic surgery op in Korea with Dr Seo. I went from 50 and old looking to young in one op! Recovery took a few days only. My face is too close to the camera in the before so looks longer than it really is.

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Hi @sarainyx, welcome to TPF. Yes you may message me.
I don’t see the option. It looks like I would need to upgrade my account so I’ll just post here! Last photo is a picture with me looking down. I feel like this is indicative of damage post dissolver or ultrasound treatments or even laxity caused by swelling after previous surgery? I understand gravity weighs the face down but this looks excessive to me.

I don’t have jowls persay but I think the muscles and tissues have dropped and are “pooling” at the frontal cheek. I’m also aware I have a weak chin which makes me wonder if surgery there would help smooth out the demarcation before the lips.

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@MissOrange Thanks so much for the welcome! I attached a few images in this thread since I didn’t see the option to message you! I also was unable to edit my last post? Or maybe I overlooked the edit option.
Hi @sarainyx, thank you for your photos. You have minor lower face laxity especially as you are doing the pinch test and can pull skin outwards. You are right, ultrasound treatments or anything that causes the face to swell, can then stretch the skin and lead to laxity. Depending on your age, either nasolabial radiesse dermal fillers to fill out the nasolabial area or a mini facelift would help to excise the excess stretched skin and tighten up the smas muscle. I am sorry you are in this position as you seem young from your pictures. I find many ladies are getting treatments to their faces and not being aware that anything that causes swelling also may cause laxity. It is not just extreme bone contouring surgery but could be laser, ulthera, TL subcision, facial fat grafting or a facelift without postop steroids.
 
Hi @sarainyx, thank you for your photos. You have minor lower face laxity especially as you are doing the pinch test and can pull skin outwards. You are right, ultrasound treatments or anything that causes the face to swell, can then stretch the skin and lead to laxity. Depending on your age, either nasolabial radiesse dermal fillers to fill out the nasolabial area or a mini facelift would help to excise the excess stretched skin and tighten up the smas muscle. I am sorry you are in this position as you seem young from your pictures. I find many ladies are getting treatments to their faces and not being aware that anything that causes swelling also may cause laxity. It is not just extreme bone contouring surgery but could be laser, ulthera, TL subcision, facial fat grafting or a facelift without postop steroids.
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I’m 36, turning 37 this year. I’m trying to research my options now to see if I can find a surgeon who will perform a mini lift on me despite my age. I was also wondering if a chin implant would help at all since I do have a weak chin.

I read some of your other responses in other threads and I saw you mentioned to avoid surgery where the retaining ligaments are cut. The SMAS can be repositioned even without cutting the ligaments? Do all mini face lifts avoid cutting or would I need to be more specific when vetting surgeons? I’m also open to any surgeon recommendations I may have!
 
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In July 2016 I regretted getting facial fat graft at DA as I did not need it. In January 2024, 7.5 years and 5 facial fat grafts later it shows I did not need it as it has slowly faded away to give me back my original face prior to fat grafts (after I had 8 cms of loose skin from all the fat grafts excised over 2 facelifts). A costly mistake but thankfully reversible over time with more money spent. Only have plastic surgery if you have a pronounced defect and not a minor perceived one.

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I’m 36, turning 37 this year. I’m trying to research my options now to see if I can find a surgeon who will perform a mini lift on me despite my age. I was also wondering if a chin implant would help at all since I do have a weak chin.

I read some of your other responses in other threads and I saw you mentioned to avoid surgery where the retaining ligaments are cut. The SMAS can be repositioned even without cutting the ligaments? Do all mini face lifts avoid cutting or would I need to be more specific when vetting surgeons? I’m also open to any surgeon recommendations I may have!
Hi @sarainyx, yes a chin implant might help but see what a surgeon recommends at consult. Mini smas facelifts do not cut the retaining ligaments. Smas facelifts are superficial to these ligaments. But do not get any facelift without a week of postop steroids or the facelift will stretch and make your skin sag more in 4-6 months. I see in your last pic you did the dreaded look down angle selfie. That always shows the lax skin. It is bringing back the trauma for me when I had a sagging face. The face down selfie was the worst. I absolutely hated it. It was unbearable and deeply upsetting. When I turned my head in bed, the sagging skin flopped over my face and deformed it. When sitting up, the face looked like it had melted and was elongating and drooping down. I am so glad I am past this trauma that occurred over 2 years ago. And because of that trauma, I will not do anything more to my face. And when I need a facelift in 10 years time, I will choose a surgeon who prescribes prednisolone and does smasectomy. No deep plane facelifts for me ever! Deep nasolabial folds instantly makes one look 60! I am in a good place now and will not touch any more unnecessary surgery and potentially ruin my face again.
 
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@MissOrange you mentioned you had fat grafted to your breasts? Did the the fat take up well? I read that fat grafts to breasts don't tend to stay well, did you have to do it multiple times? Did you do any fat to your butt also?
Hi @mingaling99 yes it took well and is still 90% (was 32e postop and now 32dd) at over 3 years because I followed my own fat retention advice in August 2020 which I had not figured out for my facial fat grafts. I only had one breast FT. If anything I think my breasts are too big as it makes me top heavy at 32dd or 30e on a 97 lb petite frame.

No, I did not need any fat to my bottom as my bottom grew naturally as the only place left for fat to grow that had not been liposuctioned.

I was saddened to read of the lady who died in Korea this month from repeated weekly liposuctions. It takes a huge toll on the body with all the blood loss. Mine were done years apart...tummy and thighs, then upper arms, then flanks, thighs and knees together for the breast FT.
 
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