How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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Today’s post is on coping when plastic surgery results are bad. When you embark on plastic surgery, tell yourself there is a 50:50 chance it will go extremely well and a 50:50 chance you will look worse or botched. With odds like these, you should ONLY do plastic surgery if you hate your sagging face or drooping nose and are willing to take the 50% risk that you may need to get a revision with the same surgeon or someone new as plastic surgery can be unpredictable. Don’t get a facelift if you have minor sagging. With botched or poor results, you will then find yourself going into hiding, staying at home, not meeting friends or relatives and dreading looking in the mirror. Take down all mirrors during this period of self loathing. Instead of blaming yourself, use this time to research. Ideally you want a free revision with your surgeon, unless you are extremely botched and cannot trust the surgeon. You should be looking at getting revision surgery at 6 months to a year.
Once you find a new surgeon (based on chatting with and seeing results of at least 3 ladies at one year postop), then you can book a consult, pay a deposit and get a final surgery date. This will give you hope. Do NOT fall for fancy websites. Do NOT use agencies as they get their cuts. You pay a lot less by chatting directly with the clinic or hospital (use kakao for Korean clinics). I like to send a photo of my passport and plane tickets so they know I am serious and will show up for my consults and surgery. If you are paying $20k or more, then you are paying too much. Remember there is a 50% chance of you needing a revision and you may have to pay for this so $20k suddenly becomes $40k…Chinese medical tourists in Korea and European and US foreigners are targets for being overcharged. Remember you can tell the clinics your bottom line, your budget and miraculously they will drop the price to fit your budget but tell you that you must not disclose the reduced amount. The problem is big hospitals have plenty of doctors so they can give your facelift to a relatively junior plastic surgeon. One way to protect yourself is to say you are posting a review with pictures on realself, this purseforum, instagram etc. If they know you will show your results, they should ensure you get decent results.
Remember no matter how bad your face is, it can be fixed as it is only skin, muscle, fat and tissues so the downtime is 6-12 months. If you ask to be added to a consult cancellation list, you get a consult faster. The same can be said for the surgery itself. I always say I am available for last minute cancellations for consults or the operation. And for Korea choose low season when students are back in school. Prices will be lower and there will be plenty of open surgery slots but try to book the first morning slot and a weekday as surgeons are tired on weekends and evenings.
Once you find a new surgeon (based on chatting with and seeing results of at least 3 ladies at one year postop), then you can book a consult, pay a deposit and get a final surgery date. This will give you hope. Do NOT fall for fancy websites. Do NOT use agencies as they get their cuts. You pay a lot less by chatting directly with the clinic or hospital (use kakao for Korean clinics). I like to send a photo of my passport and plane tickets so they know I am serious and will show up for my consults and surgery. If you are paying $20k or more, then you are paying too much. Remember there is a 50% chance of you needing a revision and you may have to pay for this so $20k suddenly becomes $40k…Chinese medical tourists in Korea and European and US foreigners are targets for being overcharged. Remember you can tell the clinics your bottom line, your budget and miraculously they will drop the price to fit your budget but tell you that you must not disclose the reduced amount. The problem is big hospitals have plenty of doctors so they can give your facelift to a relatively junior plastic surgeon. One way to protect yourself is to say you are posting a review with pictures on realself, this purseforum, instagram etc. If they know you will show your results, they should ensure you get decent results.
Remember no matter how bad your face is, it can be fixed as it is only skin, muscle, fat and tissues so the downtime is 6-12 months. If you ask to be added to a consult cancellation list, you get a consult faster. The same can be said for the surgery itself. I always say I am available for last minute cancellations for consults or the operation. And for Korea choose low season when students are back in school. Prices will be lower and there will be plenty of open surgery slots but try to book the first morning slot and a weekday as surgeons are tired on weekends and evenings.
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Today's post is really a task for you. Find photos of your parents in their 40s onwards so that you have some idea of how you might age. Then do a pic collage of similar ages you vs your parent. In my opinion, the biggest sign of aging in the face is weight gain. As we reach middle age, we gain fat in our tummy, arms, thighs, behind but also in our face. My thigh muscles turned to fat or rather the muscles atrophied and fat cells increased. Same with my upper batwing arms. I used the fat in my thunder thighs to plump my breasts and face sparingly. To look young means to reduce your weight to your weight in your 20s. It is harder to do after menopause but can be done if your home has flights of stairs and you keep forgetting why you went down to the kitchen or up to the bedroom. Stairs keep me under a bmi of 19.
My mum is 85 now but I took after my dad and have his high stroke genes so probably won't make it to 85. He had a stroke at 76 and was in a wheelchair then confined to bed and passed at 84. So far the only thing that reduces my cholesterol and super high lipoprotein A is HRT but a friend has breast cancer at age 62 from HRT so I shall give that a miss.
You can see what I mean about eyes getting smaller with age. Why? Also the nasolabials deepen. Maybe there is muscle atrophy in the face as we get much older? It will be my next challenge to look youthful in my 60s in 3 years time.
I don't look like my dad anymore. I lowered my hairline with a hair transplant, opened my eyes with several upper blephs, tattoed my brows, altered my nose, reduced my chin bone, plumped my lip with a bullhorn lip lift and bleached my hair. I guess if you spend all your life in the UK and US among Caucasians, it is hard to maintain your Korean identity.
My mum is 85 now but I took after my dad and have his high stroke genes so probably won't make it to 85. He had a stroke at 76 and was in a wheelchair then confined to bed and passed at 84. So far the only thing that reduces my cholesterol and super high lipoprotein A is HRT but a friend has breast cancer at age 62 from HRT so I shall give that a miss.
You can see what I mean about eyes getting smaller with age. Why? Also the nasolabials deepen. Maybe there is muscle atrophy in the face as we get much older? It will be my next challenge to look youthful in my 60s in 3 years time.
I don't look like my dad anymore. I lowered my hairline with a hair transplant, opened my eyes with several upper blephs, tattoed my brows, altered my nose, reduced my chin bone, plumped my lip with a bullhorn lip lift and bleached my hair. I guess if you spend all your life in the UK and US among Caucasians, it is hard to maintain your Korean identity.
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Interesting that you wrote "the biggest sign of aging in the face is weight gain." I actually weigh less now than when I was in my 20s. I used to be about 105 pounds in my 20s and now I'm about 98 pounds. I am petite in height as well. Is there a reverse situation where aging is also caused from weight loss rather than weight gain?
It's a dilemma. Volume in the face is youthful compared to a gaunt face however more weight on the body ages you. This is why they say you have to choose between your face or you body looking good when you get older. We can hack that with facial fat graft but as MissOrange has warned, you need to be careful with your face swelling and overstretching your skin from fat grafts.
Getting a vertical smas facelift (with postop steroids) is one of the highest yielding and most rewarding result you can have. If you just need a facelift and not neck lift you should be able to get a smas facelift for £5-7k, 9 million won or $8k. Here is my b&a at 15 months. The face looks the same as immediately after surgery. No nasolabial lines and no sagging. My York surgeon Nick Rhodes, Manchester surgeon Dr Marando and London surgeon Dr Dirk Kremer are the only ones I know in the UK who do vertical smas facelifts and Dr Rhodes is the most competitive by far and in my opinion gave me the best aesthetic result possible. The rest push deep plane at vast cost and one even posts on his IG that smas facelifts are ‘crappy’! Incredible how surgeons may discredit a cheaper and more aesthetically pleasing smas facelift, just to push their extremely expensive deep plane facelift. Dr Nick Rhodes gets 10/10 for smas facelifts (but you have to get ahold of your own rx of postop steroids).
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Hi Gats, I use to believe this until MissOrange disproved this. You can have your cake and eat it but the drawback is you might need multiple surgeries eg FG for face and lipo for body and additional surgeries to limbs to get rid of thunder thighs and bingo wings if required. But certain foods may make the face swell long after surgeries so there is no easy path unfortunately. Fat does come back in odd places just not in the original site it was taken from. It depends on if one is willing to do what is required.
Hi @naimal, I had my first ever traditional lipo with Dr Maurizio Viel on my tummy and thighs. He is too expensive now and does Vaser lipo now. I had arm lipo with Dr Bert Oelbrandt and I had lower body traditional lipo with Dr David Floyd as part of my breast fat transfer.
57 years old, looking 30 years younger and complaining of an aching hip on a sun holiday...lol. Excuse the dry hair. There is no beauty salon at this resort.
A pic collage of me at 52 vs 57 at the same resort! The difference is hair bleach, another full face fat graft and a vertical vector smas facelift to hopefully keep me going another 5 years. If you get full face fat graft or a facelift without steroids, your skin may stretch and sag from the enormous swelling. I finally learned the solution was not to go back to Korea for a 6th fat graft but instead get a facelift to trim 7 cms of stretched and loose skin. Looking pretty has its perks! The hotel restaurant manager gave us free champagne with our dinner! I'm worried I will gain +++ weight during this all you can eat half board stay!
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@MissOrange your skin looks incredible in all these photos! Do you have any tips on daily skincare? I believe you’re a minimalist and don’t go crazy with products but maybe I’m mistaken? In any case you’re definitely aging backwards! Beautiful
Hi @calihapagal thank you. Living in the UK helps as we hardly get any sun. I limit drinking alcohol to once a month as it dries out the skin. I only drink water with meals, no sugary drinks as sugar causes bacteria and acne to thrive. I try to limit sugary chocolate as it may also cause skin acne. I don't use makeup brushes or sponges as they harbour bacteria. I use spf skin foundation when going out. I apply with my clean fingers to blend in. I find Shiseido brand matches my Asian complexion the best. I don't use powder anymore as it dries the skin. I use Clinique daily scrub to gently exfoliate instead of facial soap. I then apply Clinique cream. It comes as a yellow cream. I tone down sun spots with glycolic acid. That's it.
Wow great tips. Thanks for sharing. Good point about makeup brushes and sponges and bacteria. I will keep that in mind. I also limit alcohol, drink a lot of water and try to stay out of sun and use sunscreen religiously. I’m thinking of adding a humidifier as I live in a dry climate and I’ve heard their good for skin health.
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