How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[Kimmiko8]

Hi @MissOrange thanks for this thread and all the useful information ♥️

I had under eye fat graft almost a year ago to reduce the hollowness under my eyes and for the last few months I have noticed that there is swelling and puffiness near my cheek bone area on the left side of my face. Despite constant massaging of the area and cold compresses I have had no luck.

i was wondering if you know of or have any experience/knowledge with under eye fat graft and why there would be puffiness?

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @MissOrange thanks for this thread and all the useful information ♥

I had under eye fat graft almost a year ago to reduce the hollowness under my eyes and for the last few months I have noticed that there is swelling and puffiness near my cheek bone area on the left side of my face. Despite constant massaging of the area and cold compresses I have had no luck.

i was wondering if you know of or have any experience/knowledge with under eye fat graft and why there would be puffiness?

Hi @Kimmiko8 sorry to hear you are having swelling and puffiness. Best to consult with your original doctor. I never had under eye fat graft so cannot comment.

 

[Teina]

What was the cost of your arm lipo in Belgium? I'm interested in getting it done but my muscles arent strong I'm afraid it might leave me with loose skin. I'm 5"5 and 149lbs

 

[MissOrange]

What was the cost of your arm lipo in Belgium? I'm interested in getting it done but my muscles arent strong I'm afraid it might leave me with loose skin. I'm 5"5 and 149lbs

Hi @Teina, it cost me €1500 or £1350 back in 2019. The compression garment is included! Arm lift will probably be double that. Consults are either virtual or in person in London for £40, unlimited. Dr O will tell you whether you are a candidate for arm lipo vs arm lift. I have been quoted €2750 for mini crescent thigh lift or €2500 if I book within a year, ie by November. Dr O has a consultant anaesthetist who delivers twilight sedation and he was brilliant. I had no nausea or vomiting or pain postop. The theatre nurse was lovely too and the warm authentic Belgian waffle with glass of cola in recovery was delicious! Postop reviews are done in his clinic on Wimpole Street in London. I shall get a thigh lift once I get my breast fat transfer done, hopefully before November.

 

[MissOrange]

Today’s post is an update on my research on breast fat transfer. I have now heard from 3 patients of Mr Floyd and it looks like it needs 2 fat transfers to stick and not to get it at the same op as en bloc implant removal. Prices last year were £5k for one or £7k for 2. Sigh. Looks like I need to pay £7k. I have prepaid my £250 consult and see Floyd in 8 days time.

I am desperate to get my mini thigh lift so once I get an op date for breast fat transfer I can plan when to fit in a thigh lift. My right thigh has a lot of flabby skin from too many liposuctions...7 (2 back in 2002 and 2004 and then 5 for facial fat transfer (3 by DAPRS and 2 by MVP). Here is a photo of my thigh lying on my side, a poignant reminder that repeated liposuctions stretch the skin! I just need to hang in there until fat is harvested for my breasts and then I can fix them. Although if I have to wait another 3-5 months for the second breast fat transfer, it will be ages before I can get my thighs sorted. The left thigh is 19 inches today and right 19.5 inches at a weight of 100 lbs.

 

[MissOrange]

4 days to go until I see Mr Floyd for consult for breast fat transfer. Very excited. I recently read a post that Dr Bednar advises his patients to lose a whopping 10 lbs preop so the fat that is harvested is the ”stubborn” fat to ensure it sticks! This means that my theory to lose a few lbs before facial fat graft and then regain to help feed the fat has some truth to it! But I cannot lose 10 lbs?!! I shall try to lose 3-5 lbs before breast fat transfer. It means less thigh fat to harvest but then if I regain the weight postop, hopefully it will expand the new cells in the breast! Both times I had facial fat graft at MVP I was underweight by 3 lbs which may explain why my face is retaining the fat cells as I regained the weight postop.

 

[Mazikeen]

Hi @Teina, it cost me €1500 or £1350 back in 2019. The compression garment is included! Arm lift will probably be double that. Consults are either virtual or in person in London for £40, unlimited. Dr O will tell you whether you are a candidate for arm lipo vs arm lift. I have been quoted €2750 for mini crescent thigh lift or €2500 if I book within a year, ie by November. Dr O has a consultant anaesthetist who delivers twilight sedation and he was brilliant. I had no nausea or vomiting or pain postop. The theatre nurse was lovely too and the warm authentic Belgian waffle with glass of cola in recovery was delicious! Postop reviews are done in his clinic on Wimpole Street in London. I shall get a thigh lift once I get my breast fat transfer done, hopefully before November.

@MissOrange have you seen the results of any patient of his who had a mini crescent thigh lift? Some patients on realself complained that the scar migrates and becomes visible after sometime due to gravity & tension. I`m curious if he has a special technique that combats this.

 

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange have you seen the results of any patient of his who had a mini crescent thigh lift? Some patients on realself complained that the scar migrates and becomes visible after sometime due to gravity & tension. I`m curious if he has a special technique that combats this.

Hi @Mazikeen, Dr O showed me a patient of his on his computer. It looked good. Yes I am scared of a visible scar. He said he would put it in the crease to try to hide it. I see Dr Floyd in 2 days time. If he says yes to breast fat transfer then I delay my thigh lift. If he says no to breast fat transfer, then I seriously need to consider mini thigh lift and book a date ASAP. It has been a year since my arm lipo and my body has compensated for the arm lipo by expanding fat cells in the back of my thighs! Really keen to see Belgium again! Has no travel quarantine for Brits!

 

[MissOrange]

For ladies in your 40s and 50s, do not despair. I found this old photo of me taken back in 2014 and I look so old and ugly! The eyelid crease is too big and ageing, the lids are hollowing, the face is sallow, the nostrils are flared, the lips are too thin, the philtrum is too long, there are creases around my lower face, etc. Okay had to black out my eyes as I really hate this photo. With the free pic collage app I compared it to my makeup free smile taken 2 days ago with the rear phone camera lens so as real as possible. If you are considering facial fat transfer instead of face lift, choose Dr Seo like I did. DAPRS gave me chipmunk cheeks but Dr Seo gave me perfect cheeks. He truly has made me beautiful with young eyes and a rejuvenated fat grafted face! You can also see how bullhorn lip lift shortens the philtrum (mine is still 11 mms 3 years post!) and everts the upper lip so you get a permanent fuller lip. The only thing I need is Botox for my crows feet.

 

[Mazikeen]

Hi @Mazikeen, Dr O showed me a patient of his on his computer. It looked good. Yes I am scared of a visible scar. He said he would put it in the crease to try to hide it. I see Dr Floyd in 2 days time. If he says yes to breast fat transfer then I delay my thigh lift. If he says no to breast fat transfer, then I seriously need to consider mini thigh lift and book a date ASAP. It has been a year since my arm lipo and my body has compensated for the arm lipo by expanding fat cells in the back of my thighs! Really keen to see Belgium again! Has no travel quarantine for Brits!

@MissOrange keeping my fingers crossed that all goes well for you. Initially the scar is well hidden and everything looks great but after sometime the scar starts migrating, that`s why some surgeons prefer the vertical thigh lift. Looking forward to your updates.

 

[Teina]

For ladies in your 40s and 50s, do not despair. I found this old photo of me taken back in 2014 and I look so old and ugly! The eyelid crease is too big and ageing, the lids are hollowing, the face is sallow, the nostrils are flared, the lips are too thin, the philtrum is too long, there are creases around my lower face, etc. Okay had to black out my eyes as I really hate this photo. With the free pic collage app I compared it to my makeup free smile taken 2 days ago with the rear phone camera lens so as real as possible. If you are considering facial fat transfer instead of face lift, choose Dr Seo like I did. DAPRS gave me chipmunk cheeks but Dr Seo gave me perfect cheeks. He truly has made me beautiful with young eyes and a rejuvenated fat grafted face! You can also see how bullhorn lip lift shortens the philtrum (mine is still 11 mms 3 years post!) and everts the upper lip so you get a permanent fuller lip. The only thing I need is Botox for my crows feet.

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How much did the everted lip lift cost you? It's just what I need. I probably only need my lips to be everted as the philtrum is already short.

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @Teina, the everted lip lift is what happens with bullhorn lip lift. I don’t think it can be done by itself. It cost £2450 with Miss Caroline Mills in London. Dr Mascaro is good but a friend is needing bullhorn lip lift revision as hers dropped with him so for longevity Miss Mills wins hands down.

How much did the everted lip lift cost you? It's just what I need. I probably only need my lips to be everted as the philtrum is already short.

 

[Mazikeen]

Hi @Teina, the everted lip lift is what happens with bullhorn lip lift. I don’t think it can be done by itself. It cost £2450 with Miss Caroline Mills in London. Dr Mascaro is good but a friend is needing bullhorn lip lift revision as hers dropped with him so for longevity Miss Mills wins hands down.

did she use fillers for your upper lip or is the volume the result of the lift? Do you have any external scars? I`m looking for a surgeon who can create for me a cupids bow lip w/out the scars.

 

[MissOrange]

did she use fillers for your upper lip or is the volume the result of the lift? Do you have any external scars? I`m looking for a surgeon who can create for me a cupids bow lip w/out the scars.

Hi @Mazikeen, no fillers, just everted my inner mucosa to create more upper lip by pulling up on the philtrum skin and perioral muscle. The faint white scar is under my nose. You could try Dr Choi at mvp for a cupid's bow. He sewed my upper lip vermillion border when he removed old filler/scar tissue. His embroidery is incredible. There is no vermilion lip border scar. I think surgeons in Korea have incredible suture technique to reduce scarring.

 

[Teina]

Hi @Teina, the everted lip lift is what happens with bullhorn lip lift. I don’t think it can be done by itself. It cost £2450 with Miss Caroline Mills in London. Dr Mascaro is good but a friend is needing bullhorn lip lift revision as hers dropped with him so for longevity Miss Mills wins hands down.

Oh sadly I can't travel to the UK.can you recommend a surgeon in korea?