How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Fortunecat said:
Looking at your photos, you don't need zygoma surgery. Your cheeks aren't protruding outwards at all.
But the threadlifts really made your face v-line though. Wow!
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@Fortunecat, alas I had all 6 threads removed so relying on this fat graft to see how my face ends up. It is still very swollen today, day 4 of full face FG so I won’t know yet if I still have any v line or if without threads I am back to a square jaw with sagging of the jowls.
 
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Wow, what an adventure you've been on! The difference with threadlift is striking, the biggest complaint I've heard about them is it's just a temporary effect, but if the price was right and it didn't leave you with any negative side effects, I can see why people would use it like they do other temporary procedures like botox and filler.

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I started weighing the risks and benefits of breast FT with the risks of propofol administered outside a hospital setting by the doctor and not anesthetist?
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What type of anesthesia were you told at consultation they would do? How common is that in Korea for the doctor to do all that himself? With propofol you'd be breathing with a machine right? No way would I let a single doctor try to juggle all those duties at once while performing surgery on me!
 
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Gats said:
Wow, what an adventure you've been on! The difference with threadlift is striking, the biggest complaint I've heard about them is it's just a temporary effect, but if the price was right and it didn't leave you with any negative side effects, I can see why people would use it like they do other temporary procedures like botox and filler.



What type of anesthesia were you told at consultation they would do? How common is that in Korea for the doctor to do all that himself? With propofol you'd be breathing with a machine right? No way would I let a single doctor try to juggle all those duties at once while performing surgery on me!
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Hi @Gats, I only had the TL face for a day as I got them taken out next day! For ppl with no autoimmune condition or contact dermatitis, then yes dissolvable threads in skillful artistic hands can look like an instant FL (like I had with Dr Seo at MVP clinic) and last as long as it takes for the pdo threads to dissolve...3 months in hot climates and 6-12 months in colder I would estimate. It is just that I could not cope with the worry over if and when my body would react to the 6 foreign bodies inside my face.

I am approaching day 5 of the full face fg which was done simultaneously with the TL and day 4 of threads removal. I am anxious to see what I look like now but have to wait to deswell. My fat grafted forehead is huge and round as are my cheeks exacerbated from 15 hours of flights and travel home.

No!!!!! I was facing propofol with NO ventilator!!! At Fresh clinic the translator said iv sedation with propofol, midazolam and ketamine. It was in black and white on the consent form. My Korean cousin's wife later explained in Korea they do things differently and even dentists use propofol!!! That's the milky substance the late MJ died from getting it iv in his home without a ventilator.
 
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MOTTY26 said:
Hi Ms. O - with TL and FG are u under local, how long did it take also, will ur face be swollen of u only do TL ?
Does TL and FG should be done together?
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Hi @MOTTY26 it is done under twilight iv sedation in Korea. I was taken to theatre between 5 and 6 pm and discharged at 11 pm. Dr Seo advised I get full face fat graft with the TL and I see that even ppl getting smas FLs often get it with fat graft to add volume in strategic places. The pain from the TL tightening while the face swells from fat graft may be considerable so maybe try TL on its own first?
 
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Here is proof positive thar anyone can afford a smas facelift! Dr Oelbrandt did my arm lipo in September so well that in Korea I got so many comments of how skinny I was based on seeing my arms!!!

I love his FL on a 62 yo on RS who paid £3k (see collage b+a) so I sent my before photos and got this reply.

This is where I will go for FL in the future. He has a fully qualified anaesthesiologist and a mature theatre nurse who knows her stuff too!
 

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Fresh's surgeon gives me the impression that he's trying to do a lot with very little (skeleton crew) and trying to maximize profits by doing everything he can himself.
I would be very hesitant to allow administration of that particular cocktail of drugs (esp ketamine and propofol), by anyone other than an anesthesiologist.

Too bad you took out the threads but you have to put your health first. I would love to see someone on pf document the healing process of a thread facelift.
 
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cute_lil_fiend said:
Fresh's surgeon gives me the impression that he's trying to do a lot with very little (skeleton crew) and trying to maximize profits by doing everything he can himself.
I would be very hesitant to allow administration of that particular cocktail of drugs (esp ketamine and propofol), by anyone other than an anesthesiologist.

Too bad you took out the threads but you have to put your health first. I would love to see someone on pf document the healing process of a thread facelift.
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Yes I got the impression that doing it all himself at Fresh may be more about profits than safety. At MVP, all discharge meds are given to you in small dose packets...amoxicillin, Tylenol, H2 blocker along with 3 packets of pumpkin juice to deswell and a tub of pumpkin porridge and antibiotic ointment. All this is included in their surgery price but at Fresh, the translator suggested I give her my cc while I was in theatre so she could buy my postop meds with it! I thought but I am paying Fresh 4.4 million won for breast FT and you want me to buy my own compression garment and postop meds? I am glad I cancelled. I felt more like a kerching to the clinic than a person. At Mvp, the translator Anna stayed with me and interpreted, held my hand, kept trying to make me smile as I was so tearful at forgetting my problem with foreign bodies, and she stayed late to 11 pm to keep me company in recovery and take me home before she headed home herself! This service was all included in their competitively low price for foreigners!

Another girl ended up getting 3 threads on each side with her v line yesterday at another clinic after seeing my initial TL results and she was in +++ postop pain just like I was! I guess combining a tightening TL with a procedure that causes swelling, is not a good idea in terms of postop pain. Usually the first day after an operation is the best indicator of the results before swelling occurs day 2 and peaks at day 3. But as TLs are temporary, dependent on the dissolving rate of the thread, it really is just a pit stop before smas FL.

I am trying the other option and that is more fat to replace loss of lower facial volume to lift. This too is a pit stop before FL as we continue to move our mouths daily and this increases fat graft reabsorption. I am on day 5 now and swollen and bruised being asked “what happened?” My reply...I fell. Lol. Well I could even try I fell flat on my face?!
 
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MissOrange said:
As I walked out of Fresh I thought I am 5 minutes walk from mvp and starved since 9 am so why not see if I can get breast FT later today or tomorrow. MVP had quoted me 3 million when I had enquired months earlier asking prices around the uk, europe and korea.

The manager Ellen was off that Friday and a new consultant told me Dr Seo did not do breast FT but Dr Hyun did. Alas both had full op lists for Friday and Saturday.

At this point I started thinking well my lower face could use some fg top up as imo ulthera may have caused fg loss to my lower face. So I asked to see Dr Seo for lower face fg top up.

I waited and in between surgeries I had a minute with him. He assessed my face and like View, Namu and Girin said I needed a lift. He suggested full face fg with threadlifting. As I hero worship Dr Seo for rejuvenating my old eyes and for correcting DA's fg, I trusted him 100% and said yes, yes anything Dr Seo says.

I bargained hard on the price as Ellen was not there so staff did not know about my loyalty customer discount or multiple procedure discount.

I managed to get the threadlift quote down from 3 to 2 million which matched Namu's quote for threadlift for me ie 2 million or 4 threads. I never even asked Dr Seo how many threads and just assumed it would be 4 total. I must say I waa influenced by meeting a young man who had just had threadlift elsewhere and what just 1 thread on each side did to lift after mini v line sagging.

Dr Seo approved the addition to the end of the day list and I went to theatre shortly thereafter. I couldn't believe I had managed to get same day surgery with 2-3 hours notice!
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Are you in Korea atm? Add me on kakao alicewonders
 
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Day 7 post full face fat graft and as I am finally deswelling I put on makeup today for my reveal. It took longer to deswell as I had had threads placed and removed. I was curious to see if my face lifted with fg alone. Here is my best shot...
 

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