How can I make my calves smaller?

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kren said:
scaredcat,

yeap. it was kind of a trauma. but i'm glad i met steph over there, to help me through emotionally.

anyway, i chose dr jong, cause he's more into the shape of the legs, rather than just removing the muscle.
like you mention, dr park doesnt touch the soleus, which he said my legs will look bowed. i wont want that.
my concern is the shape of my legs, and not just the muscles. thus, i gave up in the end, and research about dr jong after that.

kren :))
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I completely agree with scared cat - i looked into operation offered by Dr in germany though was not satisfied with the response - there was a complete lack of infomation provided plus the fact like already mentioned it is full resection rather than partial.

I have been very satisfied with the information from Dr Jong and have faith that he can achieve what i hope for, though not everybody may be suitable for the surgery he undertakes in the same way that obviously not everyone is suitable for surgery with Dr Park. I would definitely not choose to go just on the basis of price.

Christy
 
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marshmallow_ said:
Ok ladies, i just got a really detailed reply from Dr. Park and i think some of you might be interested as well:


"The recovery process of calf reduction is more complex than you think. I'll try to explain as easy as possible.

For the first 1-3 month, there is enormous swelling and the contour of muscle itself is hided.
The muscle is paralyzed and is shrunken in size.
There is ongoing wound healing process beneath skin and all the tissues are contracted and draw surrounding structures inward.
The incision wound becomes red, hard and raised in this period.
So, the maximal decrease in calf circumference is observed between 2 and 4 months usually.

At 4 to 6 months, swelling at skin subsides and the contour of muscle is revealed more obviously.
So, irregularity can be observed in this period.
The remained upper muscle start to regain its power and the size can be increased a little bit, which can be ignored.
Because there is little remained muscle in lower portion, the shape of calf becomes more balanced.
The contraction process which was observed between 1 to 3 months stops and the relaxation process begins.
The incision wound becomes white and faded in this period.
So, the calf circumference can be increased a little bit in this period.

After 6 months, the skin, muscle will be redistributed and the calf can become smoother.
The tendon portion can be shrunken due to weakened Gastrocnemius muscle and the shape of calf can be improved and the size can be decreased also.

Like this, the healing process of calf reduction can be classified in three stages and your calf will change in shape and size further.
You don't have to be frightened at the little increase in calf circumference.

After surgery, the circulation around Gastrocnemius muscle can be deteriorated a little bit, which causes pain in exercise and sitting for a long time.
The circulation can be improved by itself and the pain will be disappeared.
Light exercise and stretching can fasten this recovery."



I guess even though I'm 6.5 months post-op now, my calves seems to be still in the second stage... but my incisions are still red (not white and faded yet).
This in turn means: in case there will be a third stage soon, my calves should get smoother!? (i hope so:graucho:)



You girls who already had the surgery a year ago or so, could you experience this three stages as well?
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Hi Marshmallow, I want to do the procedure with Dr Park. You mentioned your calves grew. A few other girls also had similar experience. How are they now? Are you in the third stage of recovery? How long as it been? I want to do everything possible to make sure the results are long term. He did not touch the soleus did he? Do you have a big soleus?

thanks!
S
 
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TOPIC: SOLEUS

Hi Girls, I am not having second thoughts about who to go to. I instinctively want to go to Dr Park. Now.....ok, it has all to do with the SOLEUS. A couple questions please:

1. why Dr Park will not touch and why Dr Jong does?
2. what difference it makes to the results?
3. anyone has done a procedure involving soleus? please share?


xxx
S
 
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Hi i think the soleus is more important to function, so maybe if the soleus is altered you will not regain full strength. I'm not 100% sure tho :/

I don't know if people remember but someone a while again mentioned a dr in sweden who was considering performing calf muscle reduction. So i emailed him and he said he will be performing the procedure from march this year for £6000 in Sweden, and you would only have to stay 3 nights in sweden, i think maybe because it is only a short flight back to the uk. Although it is more expensive than going to Asia you will be protected by eu laws and if there are any problems it easy to book a flight back. Here's a link to his page: http://www.drselvaggi.com/
 
#1,118
here it is:

julie88 said:
Hey GIRLS!

I am not a regular writer on this forum, but i have been reading for a LONG time now! and am proud of all the brave people that have gone through with the surgery.

I always wanted to find a doctor in Europe, closer to home, who could perform this surgery, and i think i have finally found someone!

Doctors name- Gennaro Selvaggi
Specializes in sex change surgery (therefore breast implants, calf implants and anything else that would come under this category)

Due to the nature of his work, (MEN WANTING smaller calves) he travelled to Taiwan to study calf reduction.
He returned to Europe and now offers calf reduction via-
1) BOTOX
2) CUTTING OF NERVE
3) Liposuction if the calves have allot of fat (which is not the case for many of us!)

So i thought i would schedule a consultation with him, to discuss.
I have never had a surgeon who carries out this surgery examine my calves so i was SUPER excited.
The consultation fee is 100 POUNDS.
At first i thought this was quite allot, however this is the best 100pounds i have spent in my life!

Dr. gennaro is Italian by ethnicity, and is the most understanding person i have met. Genuine, and not misleading!
He was not in a hurry, and did not make me feel like i was rushed.
He did not go straight to the point, but began by talking to me about himself, and what he has been doing. In fact he did not even mention my calves until allot later!
We then moved on to the calves, and he showed me many pictures, articles..
he even showed me photographs of the calf muscle, literally hanging out of the leg! which was then completely cut out! (THAT WHAT I WANT!!)
We discussed all the method that are available in korea, and what he can do.
we ended up speaking about other surgery and anything else i was interested in to!

CONCLUSION(most of you already know this)
Cutting of nerve procedure is completely unpredictable, and BOTOX will not give that much reduction, however is a good temporary solution and may work long term if continuously injected.

MY GOAL-
Ultimately i will have the partial resection done. However have just been putting if of for so long as i would prefer a doctor closer to home, who i can go back to if i have a problem.
He said i can try botox, but he was not pushing me to do this, and again said that the result if unpredictable.

MY CALVE SIZE-
Right- i think it as 34.5cm
left was larger 35cm

(whenever i measure them i measured them allot smaller! and always thought they must be bigger!)

I then spoke to him about whether he will ever offer partial resection surgery.
He said that if there was enough interest then he would do this 100%
as for gender change surgery, his patients are already asking about this.
His company would also fund him to learn this, as they know it would generate allot of interest as he would be the only person in Europe doing the surgery.

Also he knows that this is an easy procedure to learn.
He did also mention that if he does go ahead with learning the new procedure it will be at the end of this year, and would not perform this until he is 200% confident not only in his ability but also in the procedure itself.
he said he will never remove the WHOLE muscle. (he said it is an extremely easy surgery! he has so much experience!)

I assured him that there would be allot of interest, as i myself know SO MANY girls who want this surgery but do not want to travel all the way to korea to have this done.

Overall we came to a decision that i will try botox, to see how it goes, it may be a waste of money but i really want something temporary.
And then hopefully in 6-8 months from now, he may be able to perform surgery. this would have to be done in Sweden due to rules and regulations.

I was really relieved after meeting with doctor gennaro and highly recommend him. he has so much experience in this field, and will make u feel at ease.

Contact details- Gennaro Selvaggi, MD, PhD
email- [email protected]
Website being updated- http://www.drselvaggi.com/

I am sorry if i have bored you all! with this long message but thought a few of you may be interested in this.
Also the more interest we can get, the sooner this procedure can be performed in Europe.
i would be greatful if you could all leave feedback, on what you think, and also if this is something that would interest you.

thank you xxx
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lil_tiga said:
Hi i think the soleus is more important to function, so maybe if the soleus is altered you will not regain full strength. I'm not 100% sure tho :/

I don't know if people remember but someone a while again mentioned a dr in sweden who was considering performing calf muscle reduction. So i emailed him and he said he will be performing the procedure from march this year for £6000 in Sweden, and you would only have to stay 3 nights in sweden, i think maybe because it is only a short flight back to the uk. Although it is more expensive than going to Asia you will be protected by eu laws and if there are any problems it easy to book a flight back. Here's a link to his page: http://www.drselvaggi.com/
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Thanks lil tiga, I got it! I quote email fr Dr Park: "I don't think you need liposuction or Soleus muscle resection.

The reason why this surgery is safe is there is remained Soleus muscle which can compensate for the loss of Gastrocnemius muscle."

:)
 
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lil_tiga said:
Hi i think the soleus is more important to function, so maybe if the soleus is altered you will not regain full strength. I'm not 100% sure tho :/

I don't know if people remember but someone a while again mentioned a dr in sweden who was considering performing calf muscle reduction. So i emailed him and he said he will be performing the procedure from march this year for £6000 in Sweden, and you would only have to stay 3 nights in sweden, i think maybe because it is only a short flight back to the uk. Although it is more expensive than going to Asia you will be protected by eu laws and if there are any problems it easy to book a flight back. Here's a link to his page: http://www.drselvaggi.com/
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Oh didnt think of that.....good point. But somehow I prefer Dr Park as a lot of girls here have been to see him?
 
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Girls, I must be getting insane because I am thinking of getting my my hair permed in Korea with the surgery since I will be there. I like the big curls on some of the actresses!! Heheh! Wish I speak Korean and know which salon to go to :( If anyone has any recommendations of good salons or type of perms, please please share. Is it ceramic or digital now? I have been away for so long I am a dinosaur on these now!! I will check other threads now....dont tell me to go away....

xx
S
 
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hi i am very interested to do calf reduction.

i consider RF calf reduction because it no scar and it have in my country now but i afraid of the unsatisfactory result and compensatory of muscle over time.

anyone had experience with RF tecnique plesase share your opinion should i do or pay more and fly to korean to get it done by partial remove of muscles

thank you for all those who pose and share their experience and every one who kindly help me out about this question.
 
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hi at the moment i'm thinking i'll go to Dr park last week of march and stay 10-14 days. @scaredcat where are you travelling from? any idea when you are aiming to have the procedure? just because i have just spent the last 2 hours looking through past threads and most people say don't do it alone so would be great if we went at the same time. I haven't emailed dr park yet though
 
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