Scarves Hermès Spring/Summer '19 Scarves

[papertiger]

These threads are archived as part of our reference library, therefore please only post scarves on this thread from the season in the title. If you are not sure, please do a search or ask in the ID this scarf thread before you post.

 

[hopiko]

Thank you for sharing, hopiko. Has anyone seen the orange one? It was sold out immediately.

Here is a snip from a video...horrid picture but you can see the color! If I pop in this week, I will get you a better picture! It is VERY pretty!

 

[scarf1]

RIGHT??? Ha ha ha ha ha

Seriously, though, I think we're fighting a deeply-entrenched fallacy to which Hermes has long subscribed: namely, that the quantity of money a consumer will spend varies inversely with the quantity of product information available to that consumer. Some of us will remember back in the days when we got inside information from "Uno," who posted the names and details of upcoming seasons' scarf offerings. Uno always stipulated that no one should make comments like, "I'm stopping buying for this season because I want to wait for the next one now," because, said Uno, Hermes does not like that. But the thing is, most of us don't think that way, and even more importantly, many of us simply aren't happy to buy scarves until we've seen the full array of offerings for the season. I know that if I can't find out what patterns and colorways will be available, I might simply skip a scarf entirely rather than risk buying one only to learn later that I'd rather have bought a different color that hadn't yet appeared in stores. In Hermes's logic, they clearly think that means I'll buy both scarves because I'll simply compensate for the lack of information by buying anything I might remotely like as soon as I see it, where in reality I'll buy nothing. No one wins.

Doubling down on this strategy is all the more absurd in light of the extended print runs of recent years. It's clear that they're more than willing to re-print when a design is popular, so there's no playing the scarcity card either, as they do so successfully with leather. They're even pumping out more Exceptionals now when one of those designs does well. No one needs to be in a rush to get anything anymore, and frankly, if I wait around for a while before making a purchase-- as I always do when I can't access enough information-- I often realize I can live without it.

Many of us have SAs who clearly understand that the more we know, the more we buy, and if it weren't for those SAs and this thread, I wouldn't feel good about spending increasingly large sums of money for Hermes silks. I wish the knowledge that those SAs have from actual experience making sales would travel up the chain.

TL;DR: It's not just that they're being oblivious here, keeping us in the dark is their actual freaking strategy!

All that being said, everyone is looking great in the recent modeling photos posted here!

At the start of my scarf buying, I did buy CWs sometimes before seeing all the choices, and then wishing I bought a different CW. Like you, now I try to wait for more info. Also, like you, sometimes my interest in a particular scarf evaporates the longer I wait. Luckily I have a substantial collection now, so if I miss something by waiting, it is not the end of the world. Also if it is meant to be, it WILL often happen. last year I knew I was interested in the samourais shawl in blue . Never had in stock at my local H. Finally in May, while traveling I found one in Ny and later the other one in London.

 

[scarf1]

This is gorgeous. I wonder if scarf1 has seen this yet!

Haha! Thanks for thinking of me. I did notice this photo! I have been good and not ventured into a H boutique since September, so have not seen any of the new season scarves in person.

 

[Langsam]

Wow! I so wanted to see more of this CW tied... Thank you! I love the bright color combo on this one/QUOTE]

This one made me think of you Fifi! I think it would look smashing on you.

 

[Pirula]

At the start of my scarf buying, I did buy CWs sometimes before seeing all the choices, and then wishing I bought a different CW. Like you, now I try to wait for more info. Also, like you, sometimes my interest in a particular scarf evaporates the longer I wait. Luckily I have a substantial collection now, so if I miss something by waiting, it is not the end of the world. Also if it is meant to be, it WILL often happen. last year I knew I was interested in the samourais shawl in blue . Never had in stock at my local H. Finally in May, while traveling I found one in Ny and later the other one in London.

Agree with all of the above. Tho I admit I’ve never regretted a cw, but that was thanks to these threads and the en site. [emoji849]

But the evaporation of interest over time most definitely. On account of which, I know I really love something if I’m still thinking about it months or years later. On account of which, I may be making a purchase online later today before the prices go up. [emoji16]

Haha! Thanks for thinking of me. I did notice this photo! I have been good and not ventured into a H boutique since September, so have not seen any of the new season scarves in person.

Yeah but you’ve seen it now! Boy are you in a world of temptation with this one. [emoji23]

 

[Joannadyne]

RIGHT??? Ha ha ha ha ha

Seriously, though, I think we're fighting a deeply-entrenched fallacy to which Hermes has long subscribed: namely, that the quantity of money a consumer will spend varies inversely with the quantity of product information available to that consumer. Some of us will remember back in the days when we got inside information from "Uno," who posted the names and details of upcoming seasons' scarf offerings. Uno always stipulated that no one should make comments like, "I'm stopping buying for this season because I want to wait for the next one now," because, said Uno, Hermes does not like that. But the thing is, most of us don't think that way, and even more importantly, many of us simply aren't happy to buy scarves until we've seen the full array of offerings for the season. I know that if I can't find out what patterns and colorways will be available, I might simply skip a scarf entirely rather than risk buying one only to learn later that I'd rather have bought a different color that hadn't yet appeared in stores. In Hermes's logic, they clearly think that means I'll buy both scarves because I'll simply compensate for the lack of information by buying anything I might remotely like as soon as I see it, where in reality I'll buy nothing. No one wins.

Doubling down on this strategy is all the more absurd in light of the extended print runs of recent years. It's clear that they're more than willing to re-print when a design is popular, so there's no playing the scarcity card either, as they do so successfully with leather. They're even pumping out more Exceptionals now when one of those designs does well. No one needs to be in a rush to get anything anymore, and frankly, if I wait around for a while before making a purchase-- as I always do when I can't access enough information-- I often realize I can live without it.

Many of us have SAs who clearly understand that the more we know, the more we buy, and if it weren't for those SAs and this thread, I wouldn't feel good about spending increasingly large sums of money for Hermes silks. I wish the knowledge that those SAs have from actual experience making sales would travel up the chain.

TL;DR: It's not just that they're being oblivious here, keeping us in the dark is their actual freaking strategy!

All that being said, everyone is looking great in the recent modeling photos posted here!

We need to start a gofundme to print this on a GIANT poster and paste it on the building in front of 24 rue de Faubourg because every single word is true!!!

(I realize Cartier and Chanel might get a bit disgruntled but this message is too important! [emoji23])

 

[HoneyLocks]

RIGHT??? Ha ha ha ha ha

Seriously, though, I think we're fighting a deeply-entrenched fallacy to which Hermes has long subscribed: namely, that the quantity of money a consumer will spend varies inversely with the quantity of product information available to that consumer. Some of us will remember back in the days when we got inside information from "Uno," who posted the names and details of upcoming seasons' scarf offerings. Uno always stipulated that no one should make comments like, "I'm stopping buying for this season because I want to wait for the next one now," because, said Uno, Hermes does not like that. But the thing is, most of us don't think that way, and even more importantly, many of us simply aren't happy to buy scarves until we've seen the full array of offerings for the season. I know that if I can't find out what patterns and colorways will be available, I might simply skip a scarf entirely rather than risk buying one only to learn later that I'd rather have bought a different color that hadn't yet appeared in stores. In Hermes's logic, they clearly think that means I'll buy both scarves because I'll simply compensate for the lack of information by buying anything I might remotely like as soon as I see it, where in reality I'll buy nothing. No one wins.

Doubling down on this strategy is all the more absurd in light of the extended print runs of recent years. It's clear that they're more than willing to re-print when a design is popular, so there's no playing the scarcity card either, as they do so successfully with leather. They're even pumping out more Exceptionals now when one of those designs does well. No one needs to be in a rush to get anything anymore, and frankly, if I wait around for a while before making a purchase-- as I always do when I can't access enough information-- I often realize I can live without it.

Many of us have SAs who clearly understand that the more we know, the more we buy, and if it weren't for those SAs and this thread, I wouldn't feel good about spending increasingly large sums of money for Hermes silks. I wish the knowledge that those SAs have from actual experience making sales would travel up the chain.

TL;DR: It's not just that they're being oblivious here, keeping us in the dark is their actual freaking strategy!

All that being said, everyone is looking great in the recent modeling photos posted here!

Could not have said it better. Having the info provided here made me buy lots more than any SA or the official site.
I remember being shown a 140cm silk at an airport some years ago (in a time I did not know by heart what was posted here). I liked it but asked what other CWs were made. Answer was: "we only have this one here" Had no internet reception. So I passed. Did research at home, liked it more than the other CWs but it was gone everywhere. Well, I survived.
BUT: I am a full grown woman, have a job with many responsibilities, I want to make well founded decisions where I spend my hard earned money. I do not like the feeling that the company looks down on me and is playing games with customers. (In German we would use the not very nice but very poignant word "verarscht")
I still appreciate the artists!

 

[Ladybaga]

Happy FriSLaaaaay!

Absolutely beautiful!!! Your scarf looks perfect with Goldie!!! I can't wait to see your mod shots!!!

 

[Living.la.vida.fifi]

Thanks! I got the three equatuers, jungle love and tree of song twilly in my second post. First post was what I didn’t buy but tried on.

Lucky thing! They are fabulous!

This one made me think of you Fifi! I think it would look smashing on you.

Oh, you know my taste well... I had three CWs of this one on my wishlist and this was one of them. It’s fantastic!

 

[Croisette7]

Here is a snip from a video...horrid picture but you can see the color! If I pop in this week, I will get you a better picture! It is VERY pretty!

Oh thank you very much, hopiko!

 

[julian.f]

I know I'm echoing @vivelebag @calexandre and others...and I rarely come here with an opinion. Mostly just with information/modeling pics but...

Normal retailer hits the nail on the head. Even Chanel is more forthcoming and less frustrating. There is nothing cute about playing hard to get - maybe in the beginning there is this feeling of the thrill of the chase, but the long term and die hard H fan (OK, I can only speak for myself) doesn't need nor enjoy acting like a teenage fan with a crush in order to spend thousands. I'm not going to buy just anything because you slapped an H on it. Sorry. And the bigger my collection gets, the more I spend with you, the more exacting i become regarding what fits or doesn't fit in my collection or with my aesthetic. I am a discerning customer. If buy fewer pieces each and every season, it is for sure not because of this thread. This thread has been, to date, one of the few reasons I've not given up entirely on Hermes. Your peekaboo, hard to get act gets old and boring.

Please treat us like the educated customers we are, respect us and show us our options. The only reason these types of threads exist is because you do not provide sufficient communication or information. The onus is on you. For what we spend, it's the least we deserve.

Another point is that stores order for their demographic, far in advance. I live in a city with 2 Hermes boutiques and each one has a substantially different offering of silks. One targets the more conservative local audience while the other gets more foreign visitors and purchases CWs that are deemed to be popular with a different set of customers. And yet, the full range of CWs are never available. It remains only a limited selection. And even then, things that are ordered by boutique management do not always make it to the boutique. Additionally - for my region - SS silks are only offered AFTER 1 January. There's a similar delay for FW. Even if they are in stock, boutiques will not allow customers to see or purchase them. It is a regional directive (not even one from Paris); at least this is what SAs/SMs say. By the time our scarves are available for purchase, silks are already on the H.com site for some time and have been available in boutiques in other regions (for a couple of months in some cases). So there is clearly no consistent global policy. This further frustrates customers as it seems that not only are we not allowed to see things "until they are released" but they are released at different times with very little consistency.

This action of theirs has been a major turn off for me. I can't blame TPF as they need to do what they need to do. And I'm eternally grateful for the ladies & gents such as @yodaling, et.al. who have shown me what was available and for those who got their hands on new scarves and spent their time photographing and modelling so that the rest of us could make informed decisions. Hermes, YOU should be doing that. You, H, are the bad guy here. And I do hope you read these comments. Because very few of us are impressed with your actions or how the house deals with information regarding collections. Hermes, you may be selling a "lifestyle" but it is a censured lifestyle as very few of us actually end up seeing what all the elements of this lifestyle are.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself here...thanks for letting me rant...

PS I agree with an earlier comment: STOP with the Brides de Gala reissues. Maybe you can finally get to reissuing La Femme aux Semelles de Vent!!!

 

[momasaurus]

RIGHT??? Ha ha ha ha ha

Seriously, though, I think we're fighting a deeply-entrenched fallacy to which Hermes has long subscribed: namely, that the quantity of money a consumer will spend varies inversely with the quantity of product information available to that consumer. Some of us will remember back in the days when we got inside information from "Uno," who posted the names and details of upcoming seasons' scarf offerings. Uno always stipulated that no one should make comments like, "I'm stopping buying for this season because I want to wait for the next one now," because, said Uno, Hermes does not like that. But the thing is, most of us don't think that way, and even more importantly, many of us simply aren't happy to buy scarves until we've seen the full array of offerings for the season. I know that if I can't find out what patterns and colorways will be available, I might simply skip a scarf entirely rather than risk buying one only to learn later that I'd rather have bought a different color that hadn't yet appeared in stores. In Hermes's logic, they clearly think that means I'll buy both scarves because I'll simply compensate for the lack of information by buying anything I might remotely like as soon as I see it, where in reality I'll buy nothing. No one wins.

Doubling down on this strategy is all the more absurd in light of the extended print runs of recent years. It's clear that they're more than willing to re-print when a design is popular, so there's no playing the scarcity card either, as they do so successfully with leather. They're even pumping out more Exceptionals now when one of those designs does well. No one needs to be in a rush to get anything anymore, and frankly, if I wait around for a while before making a purchase-- as I always do when I can't access enough information-- I often realize I can live without it.

Many of us have SAs who clearly understand that the more we know, the more we buy, and if it weren't for those SAs and this thread, I wouldn't feel good about spending increasingly large sums of money for Hermes silks. I wish the knowledge that those SAs have from actual experience making sales would travel up the chain.

TL;DR: It's not just that they're being oblivious here, keeping us in the dark is their actual freaking strategy!

All that being said, everyone is looking great in the recent modeling photos posted here!

"if I wait around for a while before making a purchase-- as I always do when I can't access enough information-- I often realize I can live without it." Absolutely.
And the reprints: when we rushed out to buy Battery Park because it was to be a limited edition, only to find that zillions more appeared a year later - well, H, YOU ARE LIARS!!!
Ii just don't think the games they make people play over leather are going to work for silk and cashmere.

 

[frou frou]

Dear scarfies, I've been so dismayed to read about what H corporate has done here. What irks me the most is that we rely on these images to help plan our purchases for the season. Without access to these photos, we would have no clue what our options are since the H.com website is SO ABYSMAL and no boutique is ever fully stocked with the season's offerings. If anyone from H is reading this, could you at least post photos of all of the designs and colorways (i.e., the full collection) on the website on the release date? Even if they're not available for purchase just have them there like a normal retailer would. Is it really that much to ask?! And lastly, if your "secret" images were downloaded from a public directory, then it's your IT department who screwed up and we shouldn't be punished for that!

I'm just glad it was only their scarves that I was interested in. When I see how some have to suffer to be ALLOWED to spend thousands on a handbag or have to "build" a relationship with their SA just to procure one their business model just bewilders me. This is just another layer of irreverence towards their loyal customers on top of that.
There are plenty of other good brands out there and I think I need to start spending my money elsewhere.

Too right ,the ‘beg for a bag’ hocus pocus is demeaning IMO , Vive Le Ebay ! Vive Vestiare!
It’s all too horrible , but unfortunately I don’t know where else to shop

 

[Sofia Mena]

Please share when you receive your scarves! I don’t believe I’ve seen the pierres et cristaux yet in marine.

I will definitely share, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. The SO likes the Coupe de Gala much more than the Pierres et Cristaux, and I find myself waffling back and forth. Normally I'd just buy both, but I can't if I'm getting the Jungle Love CSGM.

 

[papertiger]

Whist Vlad is dealing with the situation let's get back to topic which is SS19

If we haven't exhausted the topic of H's H-eavy H-ands and someone wants to open a new thread about the subject that'd be fine.

TY