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Hello guys
What do you think of a vintage Kelly 28 in Courchevel gold leather ?
I’m thinking of getting one as my one and only Kelly bag.
How much would be a reasonable price given that it comes without key & clochette no box no receipt.
What do you think of a vintage Kelly 28 in Courchevel gold leather ?
I’m thinking of getting one as my one and only Kelly bag.
How much would be a reasonable price given that it comes without key & clochette no box no receipt.
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It always starts as one and only 😀
May I suggest doing an eBay search for Kelly 28 in courchevel, and if you get a reasonable sample size you can use that as a simple proxy? Authenticity obviously, and condition of the bag are big factors. Are you certain courchevel is the leather you want/are you familiar with its characteristics? If you’re simply looking to add a Kelly to your bag collection it’s worth considering whether this is the right Kelly, given budget considerations.
ETA to clarify, there are always compromises when you’re looking at vintage bags and you want to be sure you’re making those you’ll be happy with at the end of the day.
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Hello! Thought I'd reply to your Hermes in Action post here.
I never thought to polish my rose gold hardware. A few years now but I had stored the lock and keys in the pouch in my wardrobe and stopped doing that when I noticed how rosy it stayed in the pouch, but the fixed hardware on the bag went yellow. It's been bothering me for so long!
(also need to remember its hardware not hardwear, have my mind on Tiffany!)
Anyway I took my gold Tiffany polishing cloth to it and the pictures speak for themselves. THANK YOU! I don't know why I never thought to do this earlier! It's like I have a new rose gold birkin. 😍
You can see how the lock is rosy compared to the rest of the bag in the before pic:
And after polishing (silly me realised I still had stickers on the sides of the lock), all is rosy again:
Additional note, the lighting was maybe a bit exaggerated in the first pic, possibly making it look more obvious than it was. The sun was rising as I took the photos but a huge difference in real life before and after.
I'm stoked!
I'm stoked!
I love this so much!!! I do think rose gold needs a lot more TLC than other hardware but the reward after polishing is sooooooooo satisfying
It really was barely any effort. Just a few rubs. However, yes I agree. RGHW doesn't behave like PHW or GHW. It is higher maintenance.
But we obviously love it! In love with my bag again.
The big vs. small bag debate still goes on.
Despite thoughts that the pendulum is swinging bag to big bags, Vanessa Friedman is still team small bags.
www.nytimes.com
Generally, the bigger the bag, the more space you have, the more you will stuff into it: water, wallets, pens, wet wipes, notebooks, extra batteries … This creates a situation in which you are toting around a giant lump of a thing that gets in the way and is bad for your posture. Not to mention that it puts the bag-person in the position of someone who serves other people, rather than someone being served.
Carrying a smaller bag demands choices and selectivity. Thus, “Succession” and Tom’s extremely snobby but trenchant point. Not carrying a bag at all is, in many ways, a sign of success. It suggests that you have other people to deal with the schlepping. It suggests that you can leave all of that stuff in the car or at the office. It suggests focus on the tasks at hand. It suggests liberation and efficiency. It’s a power flex. And at the very least, it’s better for your back.
Despite thoughts that the pendulum is swinging bag to big bags, Vanessa Friedman is still team small bags.
How Big Should a Handbag Be?
A reader wonders if it’s better to carry a small bag or a large one. Our critic explains the relationship between purse size and power.
Generally, the bigger the bag, the more space you have, the more you will stuff into it: water, wallets, pens, wet wipes, notebooks, extra batteries … This creates a situation in which you are toting around a giant lump of a thing that gets in the way and is bad for your posture. Not to mention that it puts the bag-person in the position of someone who serves other people, rather than someone being served.
Carrying a smaller bag demands choices and selectivity. Thus, “Succession” and Tom’s extremely snobby but trenchant point. Not carrying a bag at all is, in many ways, a sign of success. It suggests that you have other people to deal with the schlepping. It suggests that you can leave all of that stuff in the car or at the office. It suggests focus on the tasks at hand. It suggests liberation and efficiency. It’s a power flex. And at the very least, it’s better for your back.
And yet...as a bit of a control freak who hesitates to delegate or cede power, I like to have everything that I want/need in my control...can I trust anyone else to have my things at the ready?The big vs. small bag debate still goes on.
Despite thoughts that the pendulum is swinging bag to big bags, Vanessa Friedman is still team small bags.
How Big Should a Handbag Be?
A reader wonders if it’s better to carry a small bag or a large one. Our critic explains the relationship between purse size and power.
Generally, the bigger the bag, the more space you have, the more you will stuff into it: water, wallets, pens, wet wipes, notebooks, extra batteries … This creates a situation in which you are toting around a giant lump of a thing that gets in the way and is bad for your posture. Not to mention that it puts the bag-person in the position of someone who serves other people, rather than someone being served.
Carrying a smaller bag demands choices and selectivity. Thus, “Succession” and Tom’s extremely snobby but trenchant point. Not carrying a bag at all is, in many ways, a sign of success. It suggests that you have other people to deal with the schlepping. It suggests that you can leave all of that stuff in the car or at the office. It suggests focus on the tasks at hand. It suggests liberation and efficiency. It’s a power flex. And at the very least, it’s better for your back.
When I do carry a small bag for whatever reason, I find myself annoyed at having to limit my EDC items.
In my mind, small bags are decorative rather than useful.
The big vs. small bag debate still goes on.
Despite thoughts that the pendulum is swinging bag to big bags, Vanessa Friedman is still team small bags.
How Big Should a Handbag Be?
A reader wonders if it’s better to carry a small bag or a large one. Our critic explains the relationship between purse size and power.
Generally, the bigger the bag, the more space you have, the more you will stuff into it: water, wallets, pens, wet wipes, notebooks, extra batteries … This creates a situation in which you are toting around a giant lump of a thing that gets in the way and is bad for your posture. Not to mention that it puts the bag-person in the position of someone who serves other people, rather than someone being served.
Carrying a smaller bag demands choices and selectivity. Thus, “Succession” and Tom’s extremely snobby but trenchant point. Not carrying a bag at all is, in many ways, a sign of success. It suggests that you have other people to deal with the schlepping. It suggests that you can leave all of that stuff in the car or at the office. It suggests focus on the tasks at hand. It suggests liberation and efficiency. It’s a power flex. And at the very least, it’s better for your back.
And yet...as a bit of a control freak who hesitates to delegate or cede power, I like to have everything that I want/need in my control...can I trust anyone else to have my things at the ready?
When I do carry a small bag for whatever reason, I find myself annoyed at having to limit my EDC items.
In my mind, small bags are decorative rather than useful.
The "Succession" thing is...a thing. The Roy family members never wear coats, because they are never outside; they go from car to office to home to restaurant. Similarly, no one needs a bag or a briefcase. Everything will come to you; you never need to go get it.
It's one kind of flex.
So is the Miranda Priestley "throw your coat and bag at your assistant" move...also a flex. I have a fancy coat and bag, but someone else will carry them.
However, I personally like the image of a confident person in a great coat, who can cope with some inclement weather, and who has a big bag because they do a lot of things and they need their "stuff" for a busy and productive day.
To each their own.
Here’s me cosplaying one (Burberry coat, B35, Tropical Faubourg CGSM). I wasn’t doing anything important or powerful that day.
But I love the idea.
Small bags have their uses, like going for dinners or concerts but during the day, I need my stuffs. If I carry a small bag and must whip up my foldable tote to carry additional stuffs, I would chuck that small bag into the tote and be done with it
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Ha! Since I don’t watch Succession, you taught me something new and confirmed what I have always known. I am definitely the family pack mule with my Birkin 35s and my little 5’2 self. Haute Okole, can you hold my water, wallet, lotion, phone, brush, etc…..The big vs. small bag debate still goes on.
Despite thoughts that the pendulum is swinging bag to big bags, Vanessa Friedman is still team small bags.
How Big Should a Handbag Be?
A reader wonders if it’s better to carry a small bag or a large one. Our critic explains the relationship between purse size and power.
Generally, the bigger the bag, the more space you have, the more you will stuff into it: water, wallets, pens, wet wipes, notebooks, extra batteries … This creates a situation in which you are toting around a giant lump of a thing that gets in the way and is bad for your posture. Not to mention that it puts the bag-person in the position of someone who serves other people, rather than someone being served.
Carrying a smaller bag demands choices and selectivity. Thus, “Succession” and Tom’s extremely snobby but trenchant point. Not carrying a bag at all is, in many ways, a sign of success. It suggests that you have other people to deal with the schlepping. It suggests that you can leave all of that stuff in the car or at the office. It suggests focus on the tasks at hand. It suggests liberation and efficiency. It’s a power flex. And at the very least, it’s better for your back.
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💯 Also, IIRC, Shiv carries a black B30 in an early episode of Succession. It’s fully closed and looks incredibly light - one can only assume it’s empty. Nobody who needs access to their stuff and operates independently of an assistant would ever put up with the next-level hassle of opening and fully closing their Birkin 25 times a day.
ETA: Contrary to what the article suggests, plenty of powerful women carry big bags (even if their assistant totes it as often as they do lol). Christine Lagarde is well-known for her (open, stuffed) Birkins, and Hillary ******* carried a Tsatsas bag during her election campaign.
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You are important and powerful as far as all of us are concerned! And that outfit is VERRRRY powerful.... I wouldn't tangle with you in a boardroom!Here’s me cosplaying one (Burberry coat, B35, Tropical Faubourg CGSM). I wasn’t doing anything important or powerful that day.
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Small bags have their uses, like going for dinners or concerts but during the day, I need my stuffs. If I carry a small bag and must whip up my foldable tote to carry additional stuffs, I would chuck that small bag into the tote and be done with it
Yup! I think Vanessa Friedman is a bit out of touch with reality with this one (always has been, let's be honest!). There are TONS of heads of state seen carrying bags in daily life - it's just not something people do in photo ops. As for Succession, with all due respect to the fictional Shiv, big bags are for women who ACTUALLY work, and Shiv just wanted to be CEO without ever actually working (a common problem with the Roy kids).💯 Also, IIRC, Shiv carries a black B30 in an early episode of Succession. It’s fully closed and looks incredibly light - one can only assume it’s empty. Nobody who needs access to their stuff and operates independently of an assistant would ever put up with the next-level hassle of opening and fully closing their Birkin 25 times a day.
ETA: Contrary to what the article suggests, plenty of powerful women carry big bags (even if their assistant totes it as often as they do lol). Christine Lagarde is well-known for her (open, stuffed) Birkins, and Hillary ******* carried a Tsatsas bag during her election campaign.