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[EmileH]

The jacket is 2980 euros here. So you might wait for your perfect one to buy in Europe if in doubt or if to many alterations are needed. I was waiting for the perfect plain black blazer and I found it. I won't need another one after this one and it will be a pleasure to own it. It's definitely not a Chanel sort of pleasure, more a quiet enjoyment for myself.

It is definitely a beautiful jacket. If I buy this jacket do you think that a skirt that I might find in the future at Dior might be a similar fabric to match the jacket well or does the fabric vary from season to season?

It also depends what I find at Chanel this season. I am headed to Chanel to preview some cosmopolite pieces tomorrow.

 

[Notorious Pink]

Just popping in! We are away for the holiday weekend with DS2. DS1 is home with my mom. Everything looks great!

Sometimes I really forget what stellar customer service is. I just got a text from my SA at CH Carolina Herrera in LV. I bought one top there on sale last February and he remembered the other pieces I liked - a white dress and a red dress, now 30% off. He texted me out of the blue to let me know. And he said that "of course" he will hold both for me while I think it over.

Haha just like H.

 

[Pourquoipas]

It is definitely a beautiful jacket. If I buy this jacket do you think that a skirt that I might find in the future at Dior might be a similar fabric to match the jacket well or does the fabric vary from season to season?

It also depends what I find at Chanel this season. I am headed to Chanel to preview some cosmopolite pieces tomorrow.

So interesting, I'm looking forward to some mod shots and reading your decisions. I don't think you can rely on a matching fabric being available at Dior but who knows. I found a dress in the same fabric I bought years ago. To compliment the bar jacket I bought a resale new Chanel pencil skirt in a light summer tweed in black with a white grid. It's more a stand alone jacket for me. The pants I bought are a different fabric and SA advised against wearing both together. I plan to do it anyway. It's nice enough. But your ankle pants are perfect so why bother buying the Dior you don't really love. It's really very personal.

 

[prepster]

You're right about severe. It's the existentialist kind of look. But it's a modern classic. I have days where I need this kind of puristic look to feel on top of the situation. I would wear a touch of color with it. Bag or scarf. Most of the time I need a more feminine attire to be myself though.

When I first saw these jackets in 2012, I told DH, I could live in that suit! If I had to design a uniform to wear every single day for the rest of my life, it would be this suit. But...this is couture. These suits have been tailored to absolute dreamy perfection by the seamstress/goddesses at Dior to fit these (dreamily perfect) gals perfectly. I think therein lies the crux. To get the same minimal look and feel from rtw requires a trusted master tailor.

I think severe is a good word. It looks great on Ari and on pourquoispas. I have already decided that the pants and skirt are going back. Even shortening the pants won't help. They are not a good cut for me. (In fact I am buying a backup pair of my ankle pants because they really are one of the few pairs of pants that work for me.)I'm deciding about the jacket. I'm not sure the jacket on it's own feels special enough to warrant the price. It would be one thing if I had a nice Dior ensemble that I could also break up and use as separates, but that's not an option. It would also be more reasonable if it cost $2000-2500 but it's $3850. So maybe the answer is to wait for a different bar jacket in a different season.

I think it's a beautiful suit on you. But I understand your hesitation if you're not in love.

 

[EmileH]

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When I first saw these jackets in 2012, I told DH, I could live in that suit! If I had to design a uniform to wear every single day for the rest of my life, it would be this suit. But...this is couture. These suits have been tailored to absolute dreamy perfection by the seamstress/goddesses at Dior to fit these (dreamily perfect) gals perfectly. I think therein lies the crux. To get the same minimal look and feel from rtw requires a trusted master tailor.



I think it's a beautiful suit on you. But I understand your hesitation if you're not in love.

That's the thing, right? If you are going after a minimalistic look every detail has to be perfect. I don't think the jacket needs much work. The sleeves need to be shortened a bit. It could be let out just a tiny bit in the bust and taken in just a tiny bit at the waist. I just need to decide if it's worth the time effort and risk to make it work. I imagine the Dior tailors could make it work, but I probably have to go t New York. And I have ten days to decide if I want to keep it.

 

[Mindi B]

I would so love to have the personal style and lifestyle to justify one of those Dior suits. They are perfection. But I don't think I could pull it off.
Did anyone see pictures of Rihanna a few days ago wearing a hugely oversized menswear suit in khaki that looked like it was made for a 300-pound man? The complete opposite of the crisp, timeless elegance that is Dior. But the giant suit is more my style. Trendy, mildly goofy, polarizing, a bit deshabille. Sigh.

 

[prepster]

That's the thing, right? If you are going after a minimalistic look every detail has to be perfect. I don't think the jacket needs much work. The sleeves need to be shortened a bit. It could be let out just a tiny bit in the bust and taken in just a tiny bit at the waist. I just need to decide if it's worth the time effort and risk to make it work. I imagine the Dior tailors could make it work, but I probably have to go t New York. And I have ten days to decide if I want to keep it.

I wonder if they have a tailor they recommend? I bet they know someone fabulous. The jacket has such a great basic shape. It's probably the only black jacket you would ever need. It would be great with jeans, or black leather pants, or a wide-leg lightweight wool gabardine in white for Spring. You could get the St. John silk chiffon palazzo pants and have a great evening look, and it's nipped enough it would be pretty with a long skirt.

 

[EmileH]

I wonder if they have a tailor they recommend? I bet they know someone fabulous. The jacket has such a great basic shape. It's probably the only black jacket you would ever need.

I could take it to the Boston Dior but I would trust New York more.

And it wouldn't bother you that the pants are a slightly different fabric? I made DH come out in the sunlight with me to make sure the pants and pencil skirt that I have would work. He thought they were a good match. I took him to the lunch of his choice in appreciation. We had BBQ. Not going to help my waistline. [emoji23]

 

[EmileH]

I wonder if they have a tailor they recommend? I bet they know someone fabulous. The jacket has such a great basic shape. It's probably the only black jacket you would ever need. It would be great with jeans, or black leather pants, or a wide-leg lightweight wool gabardine in white. You could get the St. John silk chiffon palazzo pants and have a great evening look, and it's nipped enough it would be pretty with a long skirt.

All great suggestions. I'll keep trying it with things that I have first.

 

[prepster]

I could take it to the Boston Dior but I would trust New York more.

And it wouldn't bother you that the pants are a slightly different fabric? I made DH come out in the sunlight with me to make sure the pants and pencil skirt that I have would work. He thought they were a good match. I took him to the lunch of his choice in appreciation. We had BBQ. Not going to help my waistline. [emoji23]

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Yum. Lucky guy!

If they're a good match then you're probably okay. Plus, there are about 10 other things you could wear it with, so unless wearing it as a suit is essential, maybe it isn't worth worrying about. (??) I could see it with some fabulous jewel tone pants and black velvet pumps for evening. Brown suede skirt or pants and black turtleneck; white jeans with a striped T and black espadrilles; white shirt and patterned pencil skirt; pencil skirt in gray tattersall, or charcoal gray flannel. The jacket is really the superstar, so you could have a lot of fun pairing it with different pieces.

 

[Genie27]

If I'm wearing a black jacket with a black pant or skirt, I feel better if the fabric is a match. Or a complete mix 'n match for a casual look.

 

[EmileH]

If I'm wearing a black jacket with a black pant or skirt, I feel better if the fabric is a match. Or a complete mix 'n match for a casual look.

I'm a bit neurotic about things like that, although I have a sense that I should probably get over it.

Thanks for your wonderful advice prepster.

 

[Genie27]

I can't do it either. I can go for a completely different texture like leather or silk or lace but the close-but-no-cigar bugs me even if no one else would ever notice.

 

[gracekelly]

If I'm wearing a black jacket with a black pant or skirt, I feel better if the fabric is a match. Or a complete mix 'n match for a casual look.

I have a black Armani Tuxedo in an acetate and silk blend that is a smooth silky fabric and I have worn the jacket with my Chanel black wool crepe pants. I like that combo even better than wearing the jacket with the matching pant. Two different textures can work quite well together. The problem is when they are very very similar, but slightly off. Then it can look strange.

 

[Pourquoipas]

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When I first saw these jackets in 2012, I told DH, I could live in that suit! If I had to design a uniform to wear every single day for the rest of my life, it would be this suit. But...this is couture. These suits have been tailored to absolute dreamy perfection by the seamstress/goddesses at Dior to fit these (dreamily perfect) gals perfectly. I think therein lies the crux. To get the same minimal look and feel from rtw requires a trusted master tailor.



I think it's a beautiful suit on you. But I understand your hesitation if you're not in love.

This suit is fabulous but looks more a tuxedo evening style than the RTW one. Also the V neck is deeper.
I'm quite happy with the RTW fit, the shape is very particular with a broad hip part and a high fitted waist. Totally bar jacket. It's not really a goes with anything jacket.
Interesting discussion about matching fabrics. I mind less. Before I was told never navy with black, now it's something I love. It's more of a challenge to wear lighter black with dark black, this jacket is not a very saturated black and the pants I got are darker. That's tricky if I can't convince myself to forget about it but as always better is the enemy of good. The proportions are more important to me.