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marietouchet said:
There are many ways to read your question, I will focus on the words "recent amount" ie more than usual. I ignore the uber vintage market - the early oldies are totally different, So, speaking only to more modern scarves, ca after 2000.
No, I dont think there are more fakes now. There were plentiful fakes in the early 2000s - before it was generally accepted that laser printing was in use. I think it only "seems" like there are more fakes now.
A few memories of the ebay market in the early 2000s
- Ca 2000s, a lot more scarves went to auction. Yes, some went for amazing prices. But, it took at least two overzealous buyers to push a memorable auction for a blue Lumieres de Paris to $1400. The psychological dynamic of bidding against someone is different than doing a BIN - less impulse buying with an auction, you get a week to mull it over. At least two people thought the scarf was real. I remember people squabbling that another overbid her and stole HER scarf. I dont remember a lot of buyers remorse when the auction price was high - they were proud to have scored the scarf.
- Ca 2000s, many fakes back ca 2000s went to auction but the ending price was far less than 2X. Ebayers were looking for bargains and might have paid $150 for a fake Paddock, Hola Flamenca, Jeux d Ombres - all of which were very popular.
- Ca 2000s, there were few BINs and rarely as high as 2X retail.
- Now I routinely get asked to look at BINs at 1.5X - 2.0 X retail. See authentication thread.
- Now, it only takes one zealous buyer to hit a BIN at 2X retail. I get pressured a lot via PM to make a positive decision on these. I have said that no, the photos are still bad, and the buyer was very unhappy .
- Now, it is a different psychological dynamic - impulse buying is possible.. I also get a lot of PMs from remorseful buyers who acted too soon - they are paralysed with uncertainty post facto.
So, my hypothesis - feel free to present a dissenting opinion - is that the new market of BINs at high prices is what is different. DIfferent psychological paradigm - impulse buying. So, prices and emotions are high (buyers uncertainty).

Yes, it is easy peasy to fake some of the newer 2 screen scarves. are they lasered? I dont know for certain. The salient point is that the design is trivial to fake. BdG Love and Jungle Love Tattoo are examples. There are tells, but the photography has to be just so to see them, on balance the fakes are excellent.
And to inject a bit of humor, the BdG Loves that are not unfolded out of the heart box for photography (for fear of not being able to get it back in) are ripe for fakes. See authentication thread , I got asked to do quite a few of those, and the BINs were high, if memory serves. And I do remember being hounded by one buyer to say the unfolded scarf was real - true story.

So, that is my opinion, based on requests from the authentication thread.
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Dear MT,
I vow to your knowledge and Intel.
I can’t say it enough times, your knowledge and time spent contributing to the forum is invaluable. Thank you, sincerely.

Is there a way to see this new fakes you listed on the “fake thread”. I find it the best way to learn to recognize fakes and to learn what’s out there.
Thank you
 
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BBC said:
Interesting the links must’ve changed. When I click on them, the bag in the first link is not a Himalayan.

I’m not a bag authenticator, but I’m not seeing red flags for the top bag. Bottom bag I don’t think there are enough pictures to tell.
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When the first listing ended eBay change it. Both links originally was from the same bag and there are enough pictures for me to tell is not authentic.
 
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Hermes Nuttynut said:
Yes!! I researched, and it appears to be the Les Monnaies et Symboles de Parisii design. I’m not knowledgeable enough about the design, or whether it was ever issued as a plissé. The photos in the listing are terrible.
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I am no scarf expert, but I do remember that you could have a scarf sent to be "plissed" Please correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that it could have been "plissed" after buying:flowers:
 
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