Gucci Vintage Information Thread
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The Bouvier, or G1097 was created in 1958 and is a flattish shoulder bag and has a snap-hook lock closure
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The Jackie, (a new version of the above) G1244 created in 1961 with a wider leather base and a piston lock
There were other modifications to these basic models above featuring slightly different locks etc over the years.
Jackie Bouvier/Kennedy/Onassis caried both models of the bag in many variations
Tom Ford re-launched the Jackie in 1999 but there have also been Bouviers during mid-2000s.
Frida Giannini brought out the softer New Jackie with a detachable longer shoulder strap and tassels in 2009 in 2 sizes, the Large version is now a little smaller than the massive Large version of '09
The original version of the Jackie was launched again AW '11 with a single adjustable strap but only Med size
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I have been given 3 bags from a relative. She says they are old gucci. One is the original patent leather purse with bamboo handles. The second on is signed Lysette and the third she said is a Gucci without the Gucci signature ("prototype") . I'm going to post the 3 bags and if anyone knows about them, I'd appreciate your feedback. The one with the Lysette name she says is real and a prototype. Thanks a lot!
I was only able to post one bag in this post. I will follow with 2 additional posts to fit in all of the bags. Also if you know the approximate value of the bags please share your knowledge with me
. Thanks again.
I was only able to post one bag in this post. I will follow with 2 additional posts to fit in all of the bags. Also if you know the approximate value of the bags please share your knowledge with me
. Thanks again.Attachments
I have been given 3 bags from a relative. She says they are old gucci. One is the original patent leather purse with bamboo handles. The second on is signed Lysette and the third she said is a Gucci without the Gucci signature ("prototype") . I'm going to post the 3 bags and if anyone knows about them, I'd appreciate your feedback. The one with the Lysette name she says is real and a prototype. Thanks a lot!
I was only able to post one bag in this post. I will follow with 2 additional posts to fit in all of the bags. Also if you know the approximate value of the bags please share your knowledge with me
This is Gucci from the mid-late 1960s (be careful of the patent, it will stick to things as it has not been stored correctly). It's a shame about the condition but it's still a beautiful bag.
This is the Gucci signed Lisette inside. My aunt is in her 60's who gave it to me. I'm unable to upload the picture of the signature in this post. I'll put it in the next one. Thanks for your help.
We dont authenticate on this thread but it is clearly NOT Gucci in anyway shape or form, not even covered with Gs or with a web-stripe perhaps your aunt is mixing it up with another bag.
Sweetie this is a PRE GUCCI!!!!!!!...lol JP. DO you like Vintage Gucci or New Gucci better PT?
Poster has yet to post the pics of her aunt's 'prototype' bag (#3) and I guess one never knows until we see the pics. I know that Chanel didn't add her her name to her early bags but I have seen 1930s Gucci bags with the Gucci name.
Guccio was very 'brand aware', even before there was such a thing, as his time as a bell boy in London in his youth meant he was carrying fine and 'branded' luggage all day and night so it would be very surprising if there was an unmarked bag, even a sample. Before Aldo Gucci changed the Gucci shield to to a shopping knight it actually sowed a bell boy carring suitcases (I think that's so sweet). I would LOVE some Gucci with a bell boy on. And before Guccio Gucci made bags and leather goods in 1921 the family made straw hats, I would love to see a pre-1921 straw boater
As for new v vintage
I have never bought a Gucci bag young or old that I didn't 100% love but it's interesting that looking at Gucci's timeline they knew when to innovate and move with the times and when to go 'back to basics'. It was Gucci that cultivated the round BTH (I love a curved bag 
) and those curves come out in lots of different variations, even in luggage (everyone coppied Gucci's buckled luggage in the 1960s) and then they made the hobo (or the sack bag) famous in the 1970s, making bag-makers that couldn't catch the zeitgeist (like Hermes) look old-fashioned and stuffy in comparison.I like all the re-issues ATM along with some very nice new designs but I think the mix of old and new also suits me. I love my BTHs, I love the curves, the bamboo handle, the mirror - everything, but until Gucci brought out the current Large size I never imagined myself using one except for occasions/eves and practicality is important too.
It's a peculiarity of Gucci bags that whatever the size and shape, whatever the hardware, their bags look like GUCCI. So many great bags, so different through the ages but all with such great style, proportion, hardware, leather and colour. Most of the time I don't even have to see the signature on the inside to check authenticity (it helps with dating for all the re-issues of course). A Gucci bag looks like Gucci and I am a Gucci girl
Ebaylover I think this is a wallet is from around 1970. They were making this type of ladies' wallet in the 1960s but because of the leather pattern I would go for a couple of years affter, rather than before.
Poster has yet to post the pics of her aunt's 'prototype' bag (#3) and I guess one never knows until we see the pics. I know that Chanel didn't add her her name to her early bags but I have seen 1930s Gucci bags with the Gucci name.
Guccio was very 'brand aware', even before there was such a thing, as his time as a bell boy in London in his youth meant he was carrying fine and 'branded' luggage all day and night so it would be very surprising if there was an unmarked bag, even a sample. Before Aldo Gucci changed the Gucci shield to to a shopping knight it actually sowed a bell boy carring suitcases (I think that's so sweet). I would LOVE some Gucci with a bell boy on. And before Guccio Gucci made bags and leather goods in 1921 the family made straw hats, I would love to see a pre-1921 straw boater
As for new v vintage
I like all the re-issues ATM along with some very nice new designs but I think the mix of old and new also suits me. I love my BTHs, I love the curves, the bamboo handle, the mirror - everything, but until Gucci brought out the current Large size I never imagined myself using one except for occasions/eves and practicality is important too.
It's a peculiarity of Gucci bags that whatever the size and shape, whatever the hardware, their bags look like GUCCI. So many great bags, so different through the ages but all with such great style, proportion, hardware, leather and colour. Most of the time I don't even have to see the signature on the inside to check authenticity (it helps with dating for all the re-issues of course). A Gucci bag looks like Gucci and I am a Gucci girl
Papertiger, I am amazed by your knowledge of all things Gucci! How have you learned so much about Gucci? Are there books about Gucci history you would recommend for those of us eager to learn more?