Goyard - Quality and Durability Discussion

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#16
Swanky said:
@SDC2003 you said the straps cracked after a few months, not when you bought it :smile: I asked because I haven't heard that happen in the past few years. The boutique told me a few years ago there's no longer an issue but it typically happened to those who used the bag as a workhorse (like carried computers), it was made to carry light items. I don't own one so I asked out of pure curiosity!
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it’s funny you say that bc when I bought mine a few years ago that’s what the sa told me but no that wasn’t the case. Also I never carried anything heavy in it. It would be at the most a wallet phone and a scarf. The customer service repeatedly told me there was no cracking and that the handles were fine. They wouldn’t admit to any issues but we were able to resolve my complaints. I’ll never buy another Saint Louis or any goyard with thin leather straps ever again. I know I’m not the only one who has been disappointed. Just hop on YouTube or look through this forum. Even if the straps may have changed recently I’m still doubtful they are sturdy. They say it’s meant to be a beach bag but it’s a poorly crafted one IMO. Shouldn’t a beach bag be sturdy enough to carry towels some water and sunblock and other items needed for the beach - maybe wallet, sunglasses and phone? Even a grocery reusable bag holds up better than a St. Louis.
 
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I have noticed some signs of cracking on my Artois MM straps, which I used to use as a workhorse to carry my very heavy laptop, water bottle, etc... The leather corners on the bottom of the bag have also suffered from wear/tear with scuffing. I do not baby this bag. There's a recommendation that you shouldn't carry heavy things in the bag which I wish we could but I guess that's just not what it was made for. At most I will only put a water bottle inside as the heaviest item now.

Apart from that, the print has held up superbly.
 
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#19
I have two SL. The first one is so awful. It looked like it had been run over by a car after only a month or two of use. I've been lucky enough not to have major color transfers on other bags, but this has awful color transfer/smear on both sides. I was so annoyed I never did take it back to the flagship. At the time I felt some social pressure just to have one because everyone did so I got another in a different, darker color. The canvas is flimsy and is starting to show some wear but nothing like the totally trashed other one, which has lost its shape and is just a total disaster. I would post a horror picture but am at my place on the West Coast and the bag is back in the city. I am not really an LV fan, but 15+ years ago at least ended up w a Mon Monogram Neverfull that I'm pretty sure actually could be run over by a car and would still look fine.

I prefer the look of Goyard, but tbh think the SL should be considered almost a disposable bag and purchased accordingly. Hard pressed to think of any other lines whose entry level pieces are this bad ime. I do hear other pieces are better, but I don't plan to find out for myself. If I bought dupes I'd be sorely tempted to do that instead next time, but when the darker colored one wears out the most likely scenario is that I'll replace it with another SL, but with the understanding that it will only last a couple of seasons. I baby some bags, but to me a tote or crossbody needs to be a total workhorse, so I advise people to steer clear of Goyard if it's a splurge.
 
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I would love to know the durability of the Belvedere PM. I know the leather strap used as the fastening is definitely prone to creases, but how is it holding up so far? Does it deteriorate quickly due to the constant closure? Any other issues you're noticing?
 
#21
Safa said:
I have two SL. The first one is so awful. It looked like it had been run over by a car after only a month or two of use. I've been lucky enough not to have major color transfers on other bags, but this has awful color transfer/smear on both sides. I was so annoyed I never did take it back to the flagship. At the time I felt some social pressure just to have one because everyone did so I got another in a different, darker color. The canvas is flimsy and is starting to show some wear but nothing like the totally trashed other one, which has lost its shape and is just a total disaster. I would post a horror picture but am at my place on the West Coast and the bag is back in the city. I am not really an LV fan, but 15+ years ago at least ended up w a Mon Monogram Neverfull that I'm pretty sure actually could be run over by a car and would still look fine.

I prefer the look of Goyard, but tbh think the SL should be considered almost a disposable bag and purchased accordingly. Hard pressed to think of any other lines whose entry level pieces are this bad ime. I do hear other pieces are better, but I don't plan to find out for myself. If I bought dupes I'd be sorely tempted to do that instead next time, but when the darker colored one wears out the most likely scenario is that I'll replace it with another SL, but with the understanding that it will only last a couple of seasons. I baby some bags, but to me a tote or crossbody needs to be a total workhorse, so I advise people to steer clear of Goyard if it's a splurge.
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So sorry to hear about your SLs. Would love to see the first one, sounds like the a nightmare!
 
#24
Lwy said:
I would love to know the durability of the Belvedere PM. I know the leather strap used as the fastening is definitely prone to creases, but how is it holding up so far? Does it deteriorate quickly due to the constant closure? Any other issues you're noticing?
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I have a Belvedere MM (so same closure as the PM, just a bit larger), and not seeing anything egregious, and this is one of my most used bags.
 
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I've used my Saint Louis GM pretty frequently this past year as a daily work bag (laptop included) and as a travel companion. She's held up impressively well with no wear and tear that I can notice, and this is with me periodically checking the corners and handles too.

I've had a few scares where I thought I scuffed a corner or accidently stepped on a handle on my tile floor, but so far it still looks like new. I don't necessarily baby my bags, but I try to be conscious of how I handle and place them. Still as happy as the day I got her.
 
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#29
I have used my PM SL non stop for a couple of years and noticed some peeling on the straps. I paid for the straps replaced. Then in another year or so noticed the corners started getting holes. I then had the corners reinforced and while doing that, Goyard changed the straps without charging me. Have to say that I'm still using it non stop and love it. The initials painted on has been flaking away though and Goyard said they couldn't repaint.

The next SL I get I will just get the corners reinforced immediately!

In comparing to Hermes, I had a canvas Garden Party and that also developed holes where the canvas folded so I wasn't surprised about Goyard.
 
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#30
I’ve also had LV canvas get holes. I’ll take Goyard canvas any day over LV. Artois canvas is much sturdier than the SL but I really like both depending on what you are using the bag for
 
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