Friends Chat Thread: Wardrobe, Fun, and Whatever

[Genie27]

You look great Cordie!

None of the photos from yesterday showed up in my app. So I didn’t get to see everyone’s outfits. I probably have to uninstall and reinstall the app or something

The site was down. You should be able to see them now.

 

[nicole0612]

Thanks for the encouragement. I thought "I can do that." Got out of my pjs today and met a friend for lunch. Put on a scarf and am calling it dress up day.

As others have observed, this selfie thing is hard. We don't have a full length mirror in the house, so made DH take my picture. Won't do that again. A mirror is definitely cheaper than a divorce. It went like this. Take 1--He is in the next county and I am one of the smaller things in the kitchen. Take 2--I am frowning because of take 1. Take 3--he cuts off the top of my head. That was characteristic of his mother's pictures so I called him his mother's name. My bad. Not the best way to show appreciation. Take 4--Not great, scarf a bit askew, but must declare victory while we are still married. At this point DH becomes suddenly ill with a temperature spike and nausea. I think it is called photographer's flu. Or maybe it was boiling mad? So here is the product of my increased efforts and DH's shutter finger. Sorry so big.

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The whole discussion of pajamification and dress up has helped me on the days I don't wear a scarf. I banned from my closet all of the men's tee shirts DH and I have been sharing (left), and forced myself into women's tees (right). Looking at this pic, I am wondering why DH didn't tell me men's tees made me look fat. Who knew changing shirts could be better than a diet? My next goal will be lipstick.

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You look really great!

 

[nicole0612]

Joseph was created by a (Moroccan-born) French, Joseph Ettedgui who ran the business with his brother Maurice and another. Even though they are thought of as a British company (now mosts Belgium owned) in the UK people thought of them as typically French and they cultivated that idea, a link between French premier designer (although many designers actually started in the UK selling there such as Kenzo) and high-street and also high-fashion and street. That's a long explanation of why Joseph may use French sizing, they are also on the generous side.

Thanks PT! The brand history is interesting.

 

[Cordeliere]

I love it when we talk makeup. I am so out of it. Have used MAC forever, and I love lipstick, but recently I’ve gone without foundation, which I’m sure is not good. I’m having a facial next week at Caudalie, because I love the products I’m using based on recommendations here [emoji8] I hope they have ideas for the (ahem) older woman.

Lipstick advice please since you love it and yours always looks so great in selfies. My upper lip is developing fine lines like women who smoke do. I don't smoke but they are starting to form anyway. I recently bought some vivid shades of red, but it bled into the fine lines. Do you know any tricks for preventing that other than lipliner? I plan to talk to the dermatologist about options for resurfacing that area, but I thought I would attack it with Retin A first.

 

[scarf1]

@Cordeliere you look amazing! You are much too critical of yourself!

 

[papertiger]

Thanks PT! The brand history is interesting.

I was trying to explain why Joseph may have adopted French sizing. There could be no reasoning of course. I know LVMH have some shares, could be just where it's made. Alexander McQueen has Italian sizing and made in Italy, made in the same factories as Gucci, both part of Kering. It's all very curious.

Everything I have Joseph lasts me for years.

 

[gracekelly]

Lipstick advice please since you love it and yours always looks so great in selfies. My upper lip is developing fine lines like women who smoke do. I don't smoke but they are starting to form anyway. I recently bought some vivid shades of red, but it bled into the fine lines. Do you know any tricks for preventing that other than lipliner? I plan to talk to the dermatologist about options for resurfacing that area, but I thought I would attack it with Retin A first.

Try a lip base/primer product as it is supposed to keep lipstick from feathering. Lipstick is also supposed to last longer.

 

[nicole0612]

I was trying to explain why Joseph may have adopted French sizing. There could be no reasoning of course. I know LVMH have some shares, could be just where it's made. Alexander McQueen has Italian sizing and made in Italy, made in the same factories as Gucci, both part of Kering. It's all very curious.

Everything I have Joseph lasts me for years.

That’s how I understood your explanation, but you have such knowledge of fashion history that I love getting the extra tidbits from your posts!
I took a class in my undergrad called the history of costume, which I would love to take again. It started from the Byzantine period or maybe slightly before ~500 AD through the early 20th century and (briefly) covered the different styles of dress and hairstyles and what influenced it, from materials available to influential public figures to political changes and social movements. Do the classes you teach have any similarity to this (a historical and contextual understanding of fashion)?

 

[papertiger]

That’s how I understood your explanation, but you have such knowledge of fashion history that I love getting the extra tidbits from your posts!
I took a class in my undergrad called the history of costume, which I would love to take again. It started from the Byzantine period or maybe slightly before ~500 AD through the early 20th century and (briefly) covered the different styles of dress and hairstyles and what influenced it, from materials available to influential public figures to political changes and social movements. Do the classes you teach have any similarity to this (a historical and contextual understanding of fashion)?

Ah good. Sometimes I'm not sure if the point of a post gets lost in my 'waffle'.

That actually sounds wonderful. My classes are similar but to encourage and engage many students I start lectures on things they may have been reading or thinking about in contemporary terms and the argument explores the possible parallels in history. For instance authenticity, identity, cultural appropriation, celebrity culture are all debated in terms of fashion anyway so I use a mixture of philosophy, psychology, sociology, musicology, political economy and so on to explore those themes.

 

[nicole0612]

Ah good. Sometimes I'm not sure if the point of a post gets lost in my 'waffle'.

That actually sounds wonderful. My classes are similar but to encourage and engage many students I start the lecture on things they may have been reading or thinking about in contemporary terms anyway and the argument explores the possible parallels in history. For instance authenticity, identity, cultural appropriation, celebrity culture are all debated in terms of fashion anyway so I use a mixture of philosophy, psychology, sociology, musicology, political economy and so on to explore those themes.

This sounds fascinating. Fashion really is an integral part of culture and identity. Though this site jokes that it is just frivolous and fun (and it has those delightful elements), it also goes so much deeper.

 

[momasaurus]

Lipstick advice please since you love it and yours always looks so great in selfies. My upper lip is developing fine lines like women who smoke do. I don't smoke but they are starting to form anyway. I recently bought some vivid shades of red, but it bled into the fine lines. Do you know any tricks for preventing that other than lipliner? I plan to talk to the dermatologist about options for resurfacing that area, but I thought I would attack it with Retin A first.

I like @gracekelly’s suggestion. Also lip liner! My upper lip actually had some sun damage which we attacked with Retin A. That area is nice and smooth now. Give it a try, and I’m also curious what your derm will say.

Of all my nice lipsticks, the cheapest stuff lasts the longest: Maybelline super stay matte ink. Maybe this will stay put on your upper lip. LMK.

 

[momasaurus]

Ah good. Sometimes I'm not sure if the point of a post gets lost in my 'waffle'.

That actually sounds wonderful. My classes are similar but to encourage and engage many students I start lectures on things they may have been reading or thinking about in contemporary term and the argument explores the possible parallels in history. For instance authenticity, identity, cultural appropriation, celebrity culture are all debated in terms of fashion anyway so I use a mixture of philosophy, psychology, sociology, musicology, political economy and so on to explore those themes.

Sign me up! Or can you share your syllabus? [emoji8]

 

[Cordeliere]

Try a lip base/primer product as it is supposed to keep lipstick from feathering. Lipstick is also supposed to last longer.

Is there a brand you can recommend?

 

[papertiger]

Lipstick advice please since you love it and yours always looks so great in selfies. My upper lip is developing fine lines like women who smoke do. I don't smoke but they are starting to form anyway. I recently bought some vivid shades of red, but it bled into the fine lines. Do you know any tricks for preventing that other than lipliner? I plan to talk to the dermatologist about options for resurfacing that area, but I thought I would attack it with Retin A first.

Others have probably given more appropriate advice but I can recommend some of the non-lipstick lipsticks like lip-stains such as YSL's Tatooage, chubby pencils e.g. Clinique or Nars which are give lips colour but less grease.

You could also try this with your favourite lipstick. Apply sparingly and carefully all over. Blot well. Apply second layer to everywhere (sparingly) but stay away from the outer edge of the top lip. The first layer should act like a pencil but won't show and the second layer is to give the appearance of the original texture and finish.

 

[Notorious Pink]

Cordy, you look great! I totally empathize with your DH photo frustration. Mine takes very rarely. I don't ask unless there is no one else around. Love that scarf, too.

My makeup routine:

Moisturizer (face and eyes)
Laura Mercier Tinted moisturizer
Chanel Vitalumiere
Eye primer/base (anti-aging!)
Eyebrow pencil (light/fill-in)
Gel eyeliner at the lash line and just a bit of pencil undereye
Eyeshadow
Cheek stain
Touch of coverup where needed or to visually contour weird side-eye appearance
Lip liner and lipstick applied gently with brush (to make lipstick last apply coverup on lips first)

I loooooooove makeup. None of this is heavy, but not the no makeup look either. Just polished and done.