Fake diamonds -- different than fake purses?

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Disclaimer: honestly just curious to hear your thoughts, am not flaming anyone for their personal choices.

I wonder: how exactly are fake diamonds, especially fake diamond rings or diamond rivera necklaces or tennis bracelets, which are less ubiquitous than diamond ear studs, so different from fake purses?

Aren't many women who carry fake purses and the women who wear fake diamonds doing so for the same reason -- to achieve some kind of look that in their minds is classy and desirable?

I'm honestly interested to hear your thoughts. For some reason, in my mind, fake purses are so much more unseemly than fake diamonds, but I can't pinpoint why exactly. Are they really just the same sort of thing?

Discuss! Would love to hear your thoughts.

And P.S. I am the owner of a fake pair of CZ studs!
 
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#2
No one designed or invented the diamond itself, it is a naturally occuring thing. A designer worked on a handbag design and a company registered the trademark. A fake handbag has a stolen design and name, but a fake diamond has had nothing stolen..UNLESS...it is particular cut or style of jewelry, like Tiffany, that has been copied.

I hope that wasn't confusing! *L*
 
#3
I think the difference lies with the fact that purses are designer, or branded whereas diamonds/cz's don't generally have a brand - besides the company that are selling them (eg. Tiffany's, Cartier, Bvlgari).

I wear both real diamonds and cz's hehe and I'm not fussed at all.
 
#5
They are very very very different IMO.

First, clear sparkly things like diamond occur throughout nature, quartz, white topaz, white sapphire, moissanite etc. Diamonds could be seen as fake white topaz, or fake moissanite, so you couldn't call these fakes. (I assume therefore you are talking about manmade materials.)

Fake purses are made with slaves/child labour, they are illegal, they are ripping off someone else's copyrighted design, CZs do none of these. You cannot copyright the colour blue (for example) therefore you cannot copyright clear and sparkly.

I don't think it matters if a woman wears CZs for the status, it is different from fake handbags, she isn't harming anyone in the process of wearing it (unlike someone carrying a fake bag) and she isn't doing anything illegal.

IMO it is like comparing apples to rabbits, they are both completely different, separate entities.

In fact I think there are more similarities between real diamonds and fake purses (eg. all the horrors and ethical issues relating to them).
 
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Interesting. CZ's and moissanite do not bother me at all. In fact, I think they may even be better in some respects, because no one is going to get their arm chopped off for the sake of a man-made stone. The reality with diamonds is that.....sometimes those things do really happen.
 
#7
Fake purses fall under infringement of intellectual property. Under intellectual property law, the owner of property has certain exclusive rights to the creative work, commercial symbol, or invention by which it is covered. Exclusive rights are covered by copyright laws, which protect creative works of the owner or originator of the work for a certain period of time. Fake diamonds, on the other hand, are not protected by copyright laws unless they are branded, and like one poster said diamonds are not man made but naturally created by earth.
 
#8
no issues with it at all, i happily wear moissanite earrings (i know i always mention it) while my real ones sit in safety deposit with the rest of my diamond jewelry. now that i can afford the real stuff, it doesn't mean so much to me...i live a very casual life as a mom.
 
#9
Now on the other hand, let say if Company XYZ invents a 12 sided fake diamond that glows pink light in the dark and receives exclusive rights to such creation. This would fall under both copyright laws and intellectual property law, and anyone copying such design will lose in a copyright infringement lawsuit.
 
#10
I'm not a huge fan of fake diamonds. I might buy some if I was traveling and didn't want to have to worry about my jewelry, or if I was considering a big diamond purchase and wanted to make sure I liked the piece before investing. Generally, I am a believer in "don't front"- if you can't afford/don't want to spend the money on a designer bag, there's no shame in that, find something that's not a copy and don't pretend like you can afford it. If you can't afford big diamonds, that's OK too, but to me there's something a little tacky about pretending like you can. I think you can find so much gorgeous, creative, interesting jewelry that is not made with diamonds that there's no reason to go for fake. This is just my opinion, of course, and I don't mean to offend anyone who does wear fake diamonds- like I said, I can see some situations in which I would consider wearing them, too. I just wouldn't buy them as part of my daily-wear jewelry wardrobe, KWIM?
 
#11
Annie, I know what you mean:yes:
But I think there's 2 reasons why some gals choose faux.
One group is the group that's fronting. Same gals that buy counterfeit bags - want the look and to give an impression to others but refuse to spend the $.

The other group LOVES the sparkle from diamonds but disagrees w/ it ethically or doesn't want the risk.
 
#12
If I can't afford the real thing (and I can't when it comes to diamonds) then I'd rather not have it. I see no difference in a fake diamond to a fake Tiffany necklace to a fake handbag. They're all pretending to be something they are not.

The absolute thrill of having a real diamond ring cannot be matched by a ZC.

JMHO :smile1:
 
#13
Interesting thread...I don't have any issues with others wearing CZs but I would feel silly wearing CZs the same way I would feel silly wearing a fake bag. I definitely love some of the cheaper stones like blue topaz, amethyst, rose quartz for jewlery vs. CZs. I'm still saving to get a nice pair of diamond studs.
 
#14
LoriB said:
No one designed or invented the diamond itself, it is a naturally occuring thing. A designer worked on a handbag design and a company registered the trademark. A fake handbag has a stolen design and name, but a fake diamond has had nothing stolen..UNLESS...it is particular cut or style of jewelry, like Tiffany, that has been copied.

I hope that wasn't confusing! *L*
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Exactly what I was going to write. A counterfeit jewelry maker using CZ's in a fake Tiffany & Co. piece would be comparable to a fake Chanel or LV (etc...). An original CZ piece wouldn't be comparable to a fake bag at all.

I personally don't wear CZ's, but for the women that can't afford the real thing, I see nothing wrong with it. If they're purchased legitimately and not made by the hands of (essentially) a child slave, it's definitely not comparable to fake purses.
 
#15
I really don't like fake anything. If I can't afford the real thing now I will save up and buy later. And when I buy the real thing I wear it whenever I want to. If diamonds are large enough no one thinks they are real anyway so why not wear and enjoy them.
 
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