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#76
I think this is a very bold statement to make and I feel it's offensive to make such generalizations about people. Are you saying then that those women who don't excel in all the 4 C's are less-intelligent?? Or is it just the friend you hang out with? Or is it the men/SO/partners that lack education? I don't understand your comment whatsoever.

Wintotty...I'm curious about your post, too.
 
#77
wintotty said:
I think most of the people aren't educated enough to know much about the 4C of the diamonds, and as long as the diamond looks pretty, they seem to be fine with them. None of my friends know their diamond's clarity, color, or cut. They know the carat, but that's about it. Only few people care so much about the quality of the diamonds in US, which I think is better LOL. It's about you being happy with it, more you educate yourself, the chances are you want something better...which happened to me. My 1st E-ring was .75 carat H VS2 Round, then I wanted something different and bigger I go 2.07 Radiant H VS1, then I found Price Scope. It is all down hill.....

I'm from Japan, and people there get high color/high clarity/high cut, size is the last thing they think about(average is .3-.5carat). You'll be surprised that so many people have D IF diamonds.
Interesting thing is they don't wear their E-rings once they tie the not. They put it away and only wear in the special occasion like wedding or party, which is a big waste in my opinion. But you rarely see any women with wedding band and E-ring together in Japan. I'm sure if I go back everyone will think my rings are fake.
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Perhaps I am mis-reading your comment, but I don't think you need to have a pHD or even a GED to know about cut, clarity, color and carat. Most people will take the time to research diamonds before buying because spending the money for one IS a huge investment, even if they have a budget of only a few thousand. Perhaps they don't do copious amounts of research as members do here and other forums, but I am pretty sure most, if not all people who buy diamonds know a bit about the 4Cs. I mean, give our fellow man some credit.
 
#78
I see it as a difference of preferences for each C, and no so much lack of education. People seem pretty versed in what they want and priorities may be. In my experience most recently engaged ladies know the stats of their diamonds whereas some who have been married long sometimes just forget or no longer bother with remembering. My mom still can't remember and is just too lazy to look at the certificate.

I'd also say that men are definitely stepping up thier game in making sure they educate themselves when buying. Mucho props and kudos to Dlaude on here who has definitely taken the extra step!
 
#79
whoops said:
I love your stories and how wild you are! Every bit of it! My kids fun crazy stories will have to be from DF. I was a tame obedient-ish girl and don't have much fun ones to share like DF. Damn!... But I do have 3 months... Lol jk

I'll admit I've never been a fan of channel sets but I think it definitely has to suite each persons style and taste. People can pull off anything as long as they own it. If Gaga can work it in a dress made of meat, I don't think we have anything to worry about as far as our rings go! I can't wait to see your new set. Same center stone? Double prongs? Same metal? Same diamonds? Just thinner?

Also, do you mind lending me one of those Gs for my wedding? Haha they'd be perfect accessory to my dress. Thank you!
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My DH and I think we are pretty much screwed when it comes to our kids if there is an ounce of truth to "what goes around comes around"...we were both wild, just in different ways.
I have had a pretty exciting, adventurous and story filled life so far. And best part is I made it through everything pretty much unscathed. I think I owe that to my wildness being about enjoying life, not bad things like alcohol, drugs, or law breaking behavior. It is possible to be wild and good all at the same time :-)
But I'm not very wild anymore, now I live life for my daughters and try to set the best example I can for them. They are my focus now, and honestly just as much fun as all the other crazy things I've done. Kids are awesome.

Yeah, I don't really like channel sets either..lol. Seriously. I have no idea why I can't get away from them!!! If you can find another ring that takes 18 2mm round diamonds, I'll consider it..lol.

It will be the same head, not actually, but a third one that matches the previous two they tried. The rings will be channel set but the bottom's of them are half round. I like the look of the three half rounds on the underside of my hand more than the squarer shank. Yes, the ring will be thinner, but not by much. I think only 1mm or less. It will be my same center stone and the original 18 stones that were in the outer band. There were 6 stones in the center ring that were actually slightly larger, they are going to replace those with stones that match the other 18.

I really wanted to do this ring top and bottom with a plain shanked solitaire in the middle, but I couldn't get the person to email or call back.
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#80
^ I think she may have a valid point. I did know there were 4Cs to every diamond, however I never paid attention on cut, only Color Clarity and Carat. Should I have paid attention on cut I could have gotten a better diamond...
 
#82
I think what she meant was that a lot of Americans put more emphasis on size vs "quality" of diamond. She even admits having bought a large diamond by japanese standards so I guess she put carat over the other 3Cs while most japanese women (according to poster) put more emphasis on the other Cs because the diamonds should be perfect.



I understand this point perfectly, one of my good friends has a 0.5ct diamond. While hers is the smallest from all of our diamonds, hers is the most perfect as it's the highest Color, it's IF in clarity and it's an excellent cut. :)
 
#83
Contessa said:
Really? I politely disagree with this comment. I've seen and continue to see YG on many ERings. I don't think YG ever went "out of style" where ERings are concerned. If anything, it's WG or Platinum that are the exceptions. YG has been seen as a standard for ERings.
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Perhaps it is just the area I live in, then. Almost no jewelers carry more than one or two engagement rings in YG; everything is white gold or platinum. Even in tPF's own engagement ring photo thread, while it may not be indicative of nationwide trends, demonstrates that about 90% of people have rings in a white metal.

Regardless, if YG is coming back - for engagement rings or regular jewelry - I hope it gets to my area soon! My set is YG and I prefer YG jewelry in general; I just can't ever seem to find any!
 
#84
Oh wow, I didn't mean to offend you all, that is a big mis understanding.

What I meant about people not much educated about 4C, I meant mostly about all the angle %, light return, HCA score etc etc, which a lot of diamond nuts talk about which help to get the best diamonds in your budget. I knew about 4C when I was first looking into diamonds, but I didn't know for example, (1) you don't need D color diamond even if you want a white diamond. H will face up plenty white enough (2) you don't need IF stone, even VS2 will mostly be eye clean (3) I truly thought when the cut says "good" it is as good as can be (4) as long as the diamonds come with certs, there won't be a difference b/w EGL, GIA or AGS.

In the above way, I wasn't educated enough to know how diamonds selecting work, and by this mean I said not many people knows about these or spend many hours searching on the internet etc.

I also mentioned in my post, actually these days were happier days for me, since I was very happy about my 1st diamond with only a "good" cut, because to my eyes it was very pretty, sparkly and white. I didn't even try to say "it's about 4C's and if your diamonds are not the highest quality, it is crap" or "most people are stupid because they don't know anything about 4C" I'm surprised that many people here get that from my posting, maybe my English is not good enough to convey what I was trying to say.

Contessa, Kohl & Skyqueen, it is great that you are surrounded by all those people who knows/researches about diamonds, I just never met anyone who's so enthusiastic about the diamonds and researching/studying and somewhat obsessed like a lot of PSer around me. They usually go out with their budget, and get the prettiest diamonds they can find the stores, my friends rolled eyes when I talked about me being on a diamond forum to research etc. I don't know what you mean about "just the friends I hang out with" comment, but they all have very pretty rings, they just don't really care what the spcs are, and just happy with the rings, which I think is what is important. Also I NEVER said your diamonds have to excel in all 4Cs or your are idiot......???????
 
#85
I am with you on this one Wintotty...I missed where you were offensive entirely....I got exactly what you meant, I didn't even think anything beyond strictly diamond-research-related...

I don't know that I can figure out where the implication that you were calling someone less intelligent when they weren't well educated on the 4Cs. You weren't at all implying less intelligent. You were saying they were not well-educated and had not put the effort into learning about the things that make a diamond higher quality.
 
#86
ame said:
I am with you on this one Wintotty...I missed where you were offensive entirely....I got exactly what you meant, I didn't even think anything beyond strictly diamond-research-related...

I don't know that I can figure out where the implication that you were calling someone less intelligent when they weren't well educated on the 4Cs. You weren't at all implying less intelligent. You were saying they were not well-educated and had not put the effort into learning about the things that make a diamond higher quality.
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THANK YOU ame.;)

Forum can be a very difficult place sometimes.
 
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#87
I know! It's so hard to convey tone and despite this being a dedicated jewelry section I was surprised where everyone seemed to veer. I was scratching my head. I should've ignored work for a minute and replied sooner.
 
#88
It's very hard for something to look "dated" because all of the styles you mentioned continuously come back in style. The only shape that I think can look a little bit '80's is the N/S marquise diamond in yellow gold. Currently they are back in style but modernized in a E/W setting or halo'd. Colored stones have always been popular around the world and that will never change.
 
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