Re the red highlighted, please show me examples of that!
AFAIK, there's no such thing as not "technically fake." It's either authentic or fake; there's no in-between.
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AFAIK, there's no such thing as not "technically fake." It's either authentic or fake; there's no in-between.
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/interview-smuggler-chinese-clothing-876
Here is one article that references it but my knowledge is on a more personal level. I have friends who work with detectives to combat this practice as counterfeit goods are one of the main sources of terrorist funds. I have also personally known undercover detective who opened my eyes to a lot of different things. I understand this might not be the "proof" you're looking for but I can promise you that it exists and that even stuff you are buying on Amazon that is not clothes could be counterfeit.
If you start googling you will see what I'm talking about you will also see a lot of articles that deny this practice because China does not want to be known for this. I cannot find the article right now because it was a while ago but one of the biggest offenders of this was Ralph Lauren and Polo and Nike
Edited to add the technically fake term is because the item is made in the factory with the same materials as the legitimate items but is not sold at the same price it is sold underground
I think what you are trying to explain is 'third shift' or 'ghost shift' where goods are made with authentic raw materials. http://www.chinalawblog.com/2006/05/not_exactly_counterfeit_new_ba.html
i remember watching a documentary similar to this several years back. i *think* it was American Eagle that made like $75 t-shirts under their name and then allowed the same materials from their $75 tees to be used to make $5 items for sale as well in overseas markets. they would allow other companies/people to sell these $5 tees under a different name/brand, and even licensed the t-shirts to high-end brands. so, t-shirts selling for $5 in a Chinese gift shop were exactly the same as $75 designer tees. i think this is very common, really. almost every brand has a high-cost item and then items made just for factories/outlets/qvc/malls and etc. which end up being the real thing but not having the label or warranty. in many cases the 'secondary' item is actually made better than the primary one
Yes there is this also, which is a little different than what I'm talking about. There's actually a list somewhere I will try to find it of makeup that is made by the same factory so for example Lancome and L'Oreal are essentially the same makeup just sold for different pricesi remember watching a documentary similar to this several years back. i *think* it was American Eagle that made like $75 t-shirts under their name and then allowed the same materials from their $75 tees to be used to make $5 items for sale as well in overseas markets. they would allow other companies/people to sell these $5 tees under a different name/brand, and even licensed the t-shirts to high-end brands. so, t-shirts selling for $5 in a Chinese gift shop were exactly the same as $75 designer tees. i think this is very common, really. almost every brand has a high-cost item and then items made just for factories/outlets/qvc/malls and etc. which end up being the real thing but not having the label or warranty. in many cases the 'secondary' item is actually made better than the primary one
I think we're getting pretty off topic here but here is a link
http://lifehacker.com/stop-wasting-money-buy-the-identical-cheaper-versions-1481925774
http://lifehacker.com/stop-wasting-money-buy-the-identical-cheaper-versions-1481925774
I bought a Chloe bag that passed poshmark authentication but authenticate4u said its a fake.
I do not trust Poshmark's authenticators, and I would always get a second opinion. Just recently I had a friend buy some Louboutins, and they looked real but had a weird stamp I had never seen before. She emailed posh asking to get their expertise as well as posted them on the Louboutin authentication thread on TPF. Posh said they were fake, TPF said they were real (and agreed with what we thought).
I knew someone that bought a fake Chanel bag on posh and was major scammed...they ended up getting ahold of Poshmark and speaking to someone on the phone. The gal on the phone told her that they basically just agree with the fake claim if it's not obvious because they have no idea and "don't have time" to deal with complaints. The posh employee also told her that they don't have time to read emails and everything is basically automated.
I've said it many times before, but I love posh because there are some great deals to be found, but they need to fix things BAD.
Yes....To add to the above, Posh had an advert for a party on their FB & emailed it out to members, the shoes they highlighted were FAKE!
A savvy TPF'er spotted it & messaged them, several of us posted on their FB page, they removed the fake shoes and everyone's comments along with them.
Those types of mistakes don't build confidence in their authentication skills. :wondering
Wow great feedback..... Just solidifies my decision to never buy high end items on Poshmark. I love it for midrange like rebecca Minkoff, Marc by Marc Jacobs etc
Awe.. I hate to see you discount them completely.
I would still buy a designer item from them (I'm eyeing a Balenciaga for later lol).
I just wouldn't trust their authentication service.
You can always ask the gals on the appropriate board here to take a look and/or use a paid service after you receive your item,
They would have to take it back & refund if a paid service deemed the item inauthentic.
There's some great deals there- and on authentic merchandise. It's just the same as any other site Tradesy, Ebay and so on, we must do our due diligence as buyers and verify authenticity.
This is similar (if not exact) to what happens with store brand vs. name brand food and health and beauty items.
For example, Green Giant probably makes at least 50% of store brand canned corn and beans products. And the various supermarket chains put their names and labels on the packaging. Those store brand items aren't counterfeit Green Giant!
At CVS or Walgreens their store brand generic acetaminophen is probably made by Johnson & Johnson, the same company that makes Tylenol.
And the same goes for store brand baby powder; it's practically the same as J&J baby powder but without the name brand label and without the name brand price.
But these comparisons are completely different from a counterfeit product.
To add to the above, Posh had an advert for a party on their FB & emailed it out to members, the shoes they highlighted were FAKE!
A savvy TPF'er spotted it & messaged them, several of us posted on their FB page, they removed the fake shoes and everyone's comments along with them.
Those types of mistakes don't build confidence in their authentication skills. :wondering
Hehe, that was me. I couldn't believe they did that. I actually ended up getting an email from a Poshmark employee about it, saying thanks for pointing it out but next time to email them directly.
I responded saying they should really pay attention to that and make sure they don't highlight replica products...the response I got made me laugh. I was told that "because the listing didn't say it was a replica, we had no way of knowing." HA! Aka they have no idea what they are doing when it comes to fakes.
That's why I always comment on replica listings (only on shoes bc that's what I know) when they claim to be authentic, or when they don't say anything at all. People hate me for it, but honestly I don't care. It's more important to keep people from spending $500 on fake shoes, and reporting doesn't do anything!!
Buying high end is fine, but just get a second opinion before you accept. It's sad how they handle replicas because it turns so many people away
but I've gotten seriously good deals on high end shoes, so I can't stop lol!I thought it was but I couldn't recall for certain so I didn't want to name names.
I personally LOVE you for it- and I appreciate when anyone points out fakes!
To heck with them- if they don't like it, they shouldn't list fakes.