Docride's Hermes Lazarus Thread (can this Hermes be Saved? )

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#182
docride said:
Hello there,
Well you have a very cool grande dame there and she’s been allowed to dry out to the extreme. When leather gets to this point it’s called Dry-rot, this means the leather has the become so dry and inflexible and brittle that it tears like cardboard. It appears to be what’s happened in this case. It looks like you the leather has torn away from the stitches and part of the leather is still attached to the stitches correct? Normally a repair would require restricting though the original needle holes but in this case the holes are ripped through. The problem here is that when the leather has gotten to this stage it doesn’t usually hold repair stitches either . Think about sewing cardboard ... the thread cuts through the cardboard (when you pull them tight ).
Sorry to say but I don’t have transformative restoration advice for this bag.its not a matter of just conditioning and having the leather come back to supple and healthy condition although you can try.
1) you can try a sub patching system from the interior which won’t be neat looking and probably won’t be all that strong either.
2) Don’t muck with it and sell the bag as is as an antique recoup some of your loss and invest in a bag which can be used .
3) condition it as much as possible and then don’t over load ( lip stick keys and a mini wallet) and carry it as a chic beater Kelly like the olsen twins do until it falls apart ?
4) sell it to an interior designer or a window dysplay company or photography studio as a prop?
5) make it in to a planter ?
Good luck sincerely, doc
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I love these options!
 
#183
docride said:
Hello everyone
I'm back after the summer and I'm starting a new thread or two to help me help you
First up is this thread
The Docride's Hermes Lazarus thread
Here you can post questions and links and photos of Hermes leather bags and accessories and ask if they can be restored fixed or used as a planter ?
I look forward to answering your questions
All the best doc
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Hey, what do you think of this?
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#187
Psixichka said:
I dont expect inside to be brand new but do you think the leather type is easy /ok to fix/clean up? Or will it reflect on the outside?
I am not afraid to get my hands dirty with saddle soap, leather cleaner, and conditioner. [emoji4]
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Do not use saddle soap on this leather
I did not see any major color loss or stains on the exterior but I could have missed something
Make sure the bag is authentic and check the sellers feed back and be safe out there. If everything checks out and you like this bag, then go for it :)
Good luck [emoji256]
Doc
 
#188
Hi Doc!

I recently purchased a vintage Herbag and am in need of some advice regarding the leather pieces. There is some soiling and cracking. Can anything be done to help remedy these issues?

Please see attached pictures.

Thank you!

Justin

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#189
Justin392 said:
Hi Doc!

I recently purchased a vintage Herbag and am in need of some advice regarding the leather pieces. There is some soiling and cracking. Can anything be done to help remedy these issues?

Please see attached pictures.

Thank you!

Justin

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Hi there Justin,
Well you've found an older bag which has gotten dried out and is in need of some serious TLC before it breaks... first off is there a return possibility?
Best option is to find a bag in better condition ... these vintage Her bags can be found for around in 350 to 500 range quite easily.
Even if you got a bargain if its in poor condition or might break upon use its too expensive to loose your money on know what I mean?
lf you buy one in better condition and you give it some TLC so its better than how you found it; should you want to sell it at some point you should be able to get a good portion of your money back out (to put toward your next bag.)
If return is not an option I would focus on conditioning the leather as best you can,you are not gong to get much of that discoloration to lift off. Those cracks on the straps have me the most concerned, I would n encourage carrying this bag until its conditioned . If the straps are too far gone and tear through maybe you can get them replaced by Hermes ( I'm not sure if they still do that) or replaced by a saddle maker?
Long winded... but i hope it helps. All the best,doc
 
#191
lovely2008 said:
hi docride, what do you think of the condition of this boxcalf birkin? attached are pictures of the corners that seller sent. corners does look very dry right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/163057942754?ul_noapp=true
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Hey there. I'm not Doc, she's brilliant! But what I see, just in case you don't hear back, but to me the bag looks recolored. If you look at the first close up of the toggle thing in the front, to the left of the toggle, lighter color showing through. Plus the stamp is completely one color, another thing that makes me think it's been recolored. Plus you can see strange color patterns on the front, like it's not solidly colored. Just my opinion but if the paint is chipping between the handle and toggle, that might be the start of some big issues. Doc has a much better eye than I do so wait for her to reply...
 
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#192
lovely2008 said:
hi docride, what do you think of the condition of this boxcalf birkin? attached are pictures of the corners that seller sent. corners does look very dry right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/163057942754?ul_noapp=true
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Hi there,
This bag has a lot more problems than some dry corners. I agree this bag has been completely painted, with gosh knows what. No telling whats under that paint... if its cheap enough maybe take a chance and get it t a professional to try and save it.
Good luck,doc
 
#193
docride said:
Hi there,
This bag has a lot more problems than some dry corners. I agree this bag has been completely painted, with gosh knows what. No telling whats under that paint... if its cheap enough maybe take a chance and get it t a professional to try and save it.
Good luck,doc
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gosh, i wouldn't know that by just looking at the pictures. the price is tempting, but it's an auction. i've asked seller if the bag was repainted? seller's response was "No, it hasn’t been redyed or painted." hmmm, may have to pass up on this bag. thanks ladies for your help!
 
#194
Hello Doc,
I've learned so much from reading your thread (especially about what to look for in vintage box leather). I'm still searching for a vintage BBK and your threads have been very helpful. In the meantime, I've been eyeing this CdC Kelly and would like your expert opinion and guidance.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-...ellier-Kelly-35-cm-Gold-Hardware/292534605688

1. What do you think about the grazing? I'm wondering if this bag would benefit from new grazing throughout.
2. What do you think about the health of the leather? Does chevre leather dry out like box leathers? If so, what are some of the signs of chevre drying out? I'm curious also if this beautiful sheen I see in the photos is typical of the chevre leather. I see lots of deliciously bright colored chevre leathers here but I'm not sure if I have run into a black with this type of sheen.
3. The seller kindly disclosed that there is a scratch/dent in the right corner of this bag. If I buy this bag, is there anything I can do to minimize the look of this scratch/dent mark? What should one do going forward to make sure there is no further damage caused by this scratch?

Thank you so much for your time to share your expertise here and any wisdom you can impart. TIA!
-Long Time Lurker-
 
#195
narnar said:
Hello Doc,
I've learned so much from reading your thread (especially about what to look for in vintage box leather). I'm still searching for a vintage BBK and your threads have been very helpful. In the meantime, I've been eyeing this CdC Kelly and would like your expert opinion and guidance.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-...ellier-Kelly-35-cm-Gold-Hardware/292534605688

1. What do you think about the grazing? I'm wondering if this bag would benefit from new grazing throughout.
Docride Answer > grazing ? You mean reburnishing the edges ? Sure that would make it look nicer.

2. What do you think about the health of the leather?
Docride answer > I cant tell from these photos

Does chevre leather dry out like box leathers?
Docride answer > sure

If so, what are some of the signs of chevre drying out?
Docride answer > cracking especially round stitch holes
I'm curious also if this beautiful sheen I see in the photos is typical of the chevre leather. I see lots of deliciously bright colored chevre leathers here but I'm not sure if I have run into a black with this type of sheen.
Docride answer > yes Hermes chèvre typically has a sheen

3. The seller kindly disclosed that there is a scratch/dent in the right corner of this bag. If I buy this bag, is there anything I can do to minimize the look of this scratch/dent mark? What should one do going forward to make sure there is no further damage caused by this scratch?
Docride answer > I didn’t see this in the photos
So I can’t comment

Thank you so much for your time to share your expertise here and any wisdom you can impart. TIA!
-Long Time Lurker-
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Well that’s a lot of questions.... see above ^^^^
All the best, doc
 
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