Well, like I said, I never actually said anything about saffiano in my initial posts, but since whateve brought it up ... ok, let me think .... I do have two
Coach MFF bags and one MFF wallet that I *think* are saffiano, but that's only because a couple other people told me they "thought" it was saffiano. So take this with a grain of salt. .... Wallet looks fine. Bags look fine too, although they've become a *little* bit slouchy. But their shapes/structure leave them vulnerable to a slouch, so that's not surprising.
I do love them, but I bought them for other, strong reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the leather. That's what I was getting at.
The only crossgrain bags I have, are, again, two MFF bags. (Plus one boutique crossgrain mini-skinny.) In those cases, it's too early to tell if there will be slouch, but their structure/shape will probably help protect against slouch. (They're Cora's, so same triangular structure as Alma BB, with the zipper essentially helping to keep the shape as the two walls prop together.) And again, I do love them, but I bought them for other, strong reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the leather.
Not that I have a problem with slouch, though. It's just that I've never bought saffiano or crossgrain with the idea that the leather was one of the bag's "pluses". It just hasn't been enough to stop me.
In some cases slouch is a big plus to me. I have two bags with my absolute favorite leather, and they're actually not Coach. They're Puntotres (Spanish-made). The leather on those two is just oh-my-God-soft (and I have yet to see other Puntotres's with this same leather -- don't know if it's a fluke or what). Let go of these bags and they literally collapse into puddles. And it's not because the leather is *too* thin -- it's actually just as thick as the Kristin leather I have. But it's sooo soft and sooo puddly, it makes *me* collapse into a puddle too.
(Oh, and Re: coated canvas, I agree with Hesitantshopper on that one. Absolutely. As far as I'm concerned, the only bags I've ever seen that are truly bullet-proof (and while that is technically hyperbole, I wouldn't be shocked if they actually could stop a bullet as well), are my Damier Ebene ones. Holy H3ll. You could drive a tank over those things, pick them up, wipe them down, and off you go. Our last two winters were pretty brutal with salt and snow, and I used a Damier Ebene crossbody for most of my run-to-the-store days. Rub it against salty walls and salty doors? Eh. Wipe it down when I get home. Slip, and catch your fall with your bag? Eh. It'll bounce back.

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