Coach wants to be the American Louis Vuitton...

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Sorry, but I would put a Coach Nomad or Rogue or Swagger up against ANYTHING made by LV. Coach has the quality and excellent designs; they just don't have the mystique.
Yep, Coach does make great bags. LV does cost more for reasons more than mystique. We have different taste I see. I am glad you feel the same about your Coach bags. I think they are great bags.
 
Yep, Coach does make great bags. LV does cost more for reasons more than mystique. We have different taste I see. I am glad you feel the same about your Coach bags. I think they are great bags.
I own all brands of bags, including several LVs. I don't like Coach any more or any less; I just know from my own experience that the quality of Coach bags is definitely comparable.
 
Maybe against the basic pieces like never full or speedy, but have you ever actually handled a softlockit or cappuccines, the quality of those bags honestly blows the nomad or rogue out of the water, but you're also paying a 5-6 thousand price tag minimum for them. Not to mention I feel like Coach has really cheapened their repair policy, They're refusing to fix things they used to such as slightly frayed handles or ripped stitching on some areas of the bag. LV has an impeccable repair service, I've had pieces actually had the edge stain or stitching completely redone by LV, they also will replace straps (for a fee) but that entails that you're really able to keep using their product for a lifetime.
Yes! The Soft Lockit is made very well. Besides the beauty, the high quality is one of the main reasons why I brought this bag. Inside and out it is very luxurious. Like you said, it should be for that very expensive price. The price is inflated but it comes with buying a luxury brand handbag, sadly. I think many people love the canvas lines for the never going out of style canvas with posh designs that feel indestructible to some people. Absolutely Coach does make some high quality bags that are better made than some LV bags. I think these two brands make great quality bags that serve what their customer values in a bag.
 
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I own all brands of bags, including several LVs. I don't like Coach any more or any less; I just know from my own experience that the quality of Coach bags is definitely comparable.
Oh yes, I always saw your statement as your life experiences with these two brands just like mines. I see these two brands differently but in a good way. It is nice that we can all find brands that give us the quality and designs that we love. I would love for the brand to stay affordable luxury. I will be fascinated to see how Coach goes about achieving this luxury brand goal.
 
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Oh yes, I always saw your statement as your life experiences with these two brands just like mines. I see these two brands differently but in a good way. It is nice that we can all find brands that give us the quality and designs that we love. I would love for the brand to stay affordable luxury. I will be fascinated to see how Coach goes about achieving this luxury brand goal.

I just read an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about high end bag producers. It stated there is a decline in profits due to the increased high prices of their products. The article also named several brands created to fill the void of reasonable prices particularly targeting the market of younger shoppers. A good idea in my opinion because high end hand bag makers are pricing themselves out of the market for the average purchaser.
 
I just read an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about high end bag producers. It stated there is a decline in profits due to the increased high prices of their products. The article also named several brands created to fill the void of reasonable prices particularly targeting the market of younger shoppers. A good idea in my opinion because high end hand bag makers are pricing themselves out of the market for the average purchaser.

High end luxury makers should price themselves out of the market for the average purchaser because they aren't meant for the AVERAGE purchaser......they're meant for the luxury buyer.
There are plenty of moderately priced brands out there to fill the gap.
 
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I just read an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about high end bag producers. It stated there is a decline in profits due to the increased high prices of their products. The article also named several brands created to fill the void of reasonable prices particularly targeting the market of younger shoppers. A good idea in my opinion because high end hand bag makers are pricing themselves out of the market for the average purchaser.
Yeah, the repeated price increases suck. That is awesome. I love classic designs with a touch of luxury.
I have just read the post above. There could be a market for just right below high end luxury that needs to expand for shoppers in that market, just a guess.
 
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I don't agree. It matters what line a person is buying when it comes to quality. To me, the designs needs to improve to match LV. This opinion comes from a person that loves Coach too.

Most of us who have adored Coach forever have actually witnessed a transformation of the classic designs giving way to luxe and coveted pieces of desire this past year. I believe we have seen an evolution AND elevation of the brand in the past year due to these 1941 designs.

In April, I decided to treat myself to a beautiful bag. I walked into Louis Vuitton, saw what my $1000 would buy, and walked over to Coach and bought a Coach 1941 large tea rose dinky. I never looked back...and the bag was actually under budget. [emoji4] Yesterday I wore the bag and got no less than six compliments by a hoard of drooling women...

This brand transformation and design upgrade has not gone unnoticed by the press. From today's business news from CNBC:

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^^ That's nice. I am not sure why you attached it to my post. It has no reflection to my taste in handbags which I own no explanation to explain. I am not sure how it reflects to the topic of this thread. I am happy for everybody that found a bag that they enjoy. It is not a competition to see which brand is better which is subjective but if Coach will become like LV. Each brand makes great products that different people value differently. Different is good because one would not be needed if they were just the same.
 
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Just posting an informational piece on the "street's" opinion of a perceived turnaround of product initiatives, i.e., up-branding regarding Coach, which I believe you had discussed in your post. Just adding to the conversation with no hurt intended. It is refreshing to see the observations of Coach fans are also being noted by the media. Thanks for your quick response.

The personal comment of my own shopping experience reflects only my own desire to leave LV for Coach. But interesting that you mentioned customers leaving brands. There was another article yesterday in the same newsfeed that cited customers are leaving Kate Spade for other brands, hinting at Coach being a possible recipient of their customers.
 
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Just posting an informational piece on the "street's" opinion of a perceived turnaround of product initiatives, i.e., up-branding regarding Coach, which I believe you had discussed in your post. Just adding to the conversation with no hurt intended. It is refreshing to see the observations of Coach fans are also being noted by the media. Thanks for your quick response.

The personal comment of my own shopping experience reflects only my own desire to leave LV for Coach. But interesting that you mentioned customers leaving brands. There was another article yesterday in the same newsfeed that cited customers are leaving Kate Spade for other brands, hinting at Coach being a possible recipient of their customers.
We were talking about our perception of quality and design between the two brands which many people will see differently. I gave my opinion to add to the conversation. The information you shared in the attachment is nice to know. I just did not see how it correlated with my taste before the added story. The story you added would make Coach smile. :smile:
 
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I hope that whatever happens they stay in the affordable luxury realm. Or maybe they'll just remove that motto from their website lol. I also think all the designers not just Coach release way too many throw away designs. I know it's difficult to find a style that'll stick, but I think Coach cannot improve until they keep something classic.

The question is though if they'll be willing to do so with their legacy lines or if they'll get a big, timeless hit in their 1941 collection. I love my rogue but I know it's not a timeless design. I also wonder about a lot of the edgier designs not attracting their loyal customers.

I tried Kate Spade twice, quality just isn't there even though they're priced similarly to MK and Coach or even HB. Perhaps the customers wanted some more bang for buck at $200-300.
 
High end luxury makers should price themselves out of the market for the average purchaser because they aren't meant for the AVERAGE purchaser......they're meant for the luxury buyer.
There are plenty of moderately priced brands out there to fill the gap.
I don't want to start any controversy but I am not certain why luxury makers should price themselves out of the market for the average purchaser. Why is an average person not meant to be a luxury buyer? I would think each of us see things we like in the luxury market. Perhaps the way I define average purchaser is different from your definition. My point was the luxury market is starting to lose money because of the high increases in their products in recent years which many of us simply do not want to pay that much money for something.
 
I don't want to start any controversy but I am not certain why luxury makers should price themselves out of the market for the average purchaser. Why is an average person not meant to be a luxury buyer? I would think each of us see things we like in the luxury market. Perhaps the way I define average purchaser is different from your definition. My point was the luxury market is starting to lose money because of the high increases in their products in recent years which many of us simply do not want to pay that much money for something.
Mostly because once "anyone" can afford something, it becomes less desirable. Just as many people believe the Coach outlets flood the market with MFF and signature items, cheapening the Coach brand. There was an article on the Purse Blog several months ago about Louis Vuitton raising prices on their most affordable offerings for exactly that reason.
 
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