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#9,691
Zealous said:
Hi, Mellopan! Welcome to rehab! :) I did see a mention of your Madison satchel here in this thread during my searches & found your photo in the Authentication thread late last night.

Does your bag have leather tabs on the sides? I have the larger version with rings for a long strap. Mine didn't come with the long strap, so I'll just borrow one from another vintage bag. Here's a post by Hyacinth that includes a catalog photo:




In regards to the shorter straps, I went light on conditioning them while they were drying. Also, I am trying to be patient & give time for the products to dry before applying additional coats. The 24-hour suggested time between is a good rule of thumb. The other bag I worked on with cracked piping felt mushy (like the piping wasn't drying completely) & I had wondered if it had something to do with too much conditioning while wet & absorbing in the cracks. I'm not sure if this is similar to your current situation.

I hope to post about a rehab success when all is done. ;) I look forward to hearing about yours too!
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Hi Zealous :) thank you for the warm welcome :) mine is actually the smaller one with tabs on the sides! From the catalogue photo it says the soft handles are made from reinforced leather. I don't know, maybe they're supposed to be a bit gummy and floppy?

I conditioned the body of the bag while it was still slightly damp but didn't touch the straps until a day later. Granted it took probably 4 days to dry completely! I think it was drying from the top down since I had nowhere to hang or prop it, I had to leave it standing so the bottom took forever to dry.

I'm waiting for blackrock to arrive in the mail and hoping that would help seal the handles from further damage.

By the way, so you know if this bag is supposed to come with a "coach leatherware" hang tag? Mine only says coach so I suspect it is not the original.
 
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#9,692
mellopan said:
Hi Zealous :) thank you for the warm welcome :) mine is actually the smaller one with tabs on the sides! From the catalogue photo it says the soft handles are made from reinforced leather. I don't know, maybe they're supposed to be a bit gummy and floppy?

I conditioned the body of the bag while it was still slightly damp but didn't touch the straps until a day later. Granted it took probably 4 days to dry completely! I think it was drying from the top down since I had nowhere to hang or prop it, I had to leave it standing so the bottom took forever to dry.

I'm waiting for blackrock to arrive in the mail and hoping that would help seal the handles from further damage.

By the way, so you know if this bag is supposed to come with a "coach leatherware" hang tag? Mine only says coach so I suspect it is not the original.
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Mellopan- It's been quite humid here & I'm surprised my bag actually dried! ;) I did buy 'Leather CPR' yesterday & am liking it so far. I have Blackrock & that's great.

This bag's rehab is almost done for me! As for its handles, I had worried they would be brittle but I think they look & feel pretty good. They seem like they should be pliable when I do get to loading it up & carrying it. Fingers crossed.

With my vintage bags, I usually compare the cartouche on the creed & hangtag. I believe they should match but others would surely be able to chime in on this subject. On this bag, both my creed & hangtag (one-sided with suede on the back) say 'COACH Leatherware'.
 
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Zealous said:
Mellopan- It's been quite humid here & I'm surprised my bag actually dried! ;) I did buy 'Leather CPR' yesterday & am liking it so far. I have Blackrock & that's great.

This bag's rehab is almost done for me! As for its handles, I had worried they would be brittle but I think they look & feel pretty good. They seem like they should be pliable when I do get to loading it up & carrying it. Fingers crossed.

With my vintage bags, I usually compare the cartouche on the creed & hangtag. I believe they should match but others would surely be able to chime in on this subject. On this bag, both my creed & hangtag (one-sided with suede on the back) say 'COACH Leatherware'.
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That's great to hear :) I look forward to seeing your final results!

I actually found a couple of tiny cracks on my handles as well, but my Blackrock came in today and it seemed to have helped "seal" the surface, so now the handles look shinier and stronger :D

The creed on this bag has faded quite a bit, I can no longer see everything clearly but it definitely looks like there's space underneath the COACH stamp for "leatherware". The hang tag I got is two sided and feels reaaally light. It's definitely not the original tag I think. Possibly not even authentic :( oh well as long as the bag is!

Attached is my before and after transformation :) I think it looks really great and I'm so thankful to everyone on this forum for their advice and suggestions, especially to whateve for authenticating my bag and helping me out!
 

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#9,695
mellopan said:
That's great to hear :) I look forward to seeing your final results!

I actually found a couple of tiny cracks on my handles as well, but my Blackrock came in today and it seemed to have helped "seal" the surface, so now the handles look shinier and stronger :D

The creed on this bag has faded quite a bit, I can no longer see everything clearly but it definitely looks like there's space underneath the COACH stamp for "leatherware". The hang tag I got is two sided and feels reaaally light. It's definitely not the original tag I think. Possibly not even authentic :( oh well as long as the bag is!

Attached is my before and after transformation :) I think it looks really great and I'm so thankful to everyone on this forum for their advice and suggestions, especially to whateve for authenticating my bag and helping me out!
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You're welcome for any help I've provided.

The hangtag you received is likely authentic. The first hangtags were one-sided and included the word "Leatherware." The older hangtags were flimsier than more recent hangtags and had a different shape. The hangtag was changed to a double-sided version without the word Leatherware sometime in the early 90s.

What a pretty bag!
 
#9,698
Now that Coach no longer sells leashes and collars, I needed a small collar. (I have a couple of leashes.)

I found a used collar and leash but they're pink. My dog is male and any other color would have worked except for pink.

I've never done bathing, rehab or dying. Am I getting into something more difficult than a total novice can do?

Where do I start and what kind of dye would I buy? (I know not to use shoe polish!)
 
#9,699
Hi everyone! I'm back after a summer hiatus and am attacking my pile of rehabs. I have a Madison Pleated Sophia in Flint and I'm wondering if anyone has any advice. It is a beige-gray color, super soft, but has a mildly sparkly sheen to the leather and I'm worried that dunking it might damage that treatment whatever it is. The bag however is definitely dirty with a few spots as well as all-over grunge. Can I give it a bath? Thanks!
 
#9,700
BeenBurned said:
Now that Coach no longer sells leashes and collars, I needed a small collar. (I have a couple of leashes.)

I found a used collar and leash but they're pink. My dog is male and any other color would have worked except for pink.

I've never done bathing, rehab or dying. Am I getting into something more difficult than a total novice can do?

Where do I start and what kind of dye would I buy? (I know not to use shoe polish!)
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I've had reasonably good results with RIT liquid fabric dye. I do it in my kitchen sink (stainless) or in a repurposed kitty litter bucket. Use warmest water you can stand and soak the items before adding the dye so that they are already thoroughly wet. I've found that even with prewetting the dye has a hard time getting into the seams so make sure they are really wet. Then stir periodically so that they don't float and end up uneven. Also remember that going over a color like pink you will end up with some kind of blend-- dark green may result in muddy brown, black may be deep magenta, dark navy could give you a deep purple, etc. Also if the items are made similar to shoulder straps (I haven't seen the collars or leashes) is there edge sealant and what color? You might need to paint that too or maybe it could make a cool two-tone effect.
 
#9,701
BeenBurned said:
Now that Coach no longer sells leashes and collars, I needed a small collar. (I have a couple of leashes.)

I found a used collar and leash but they're pink. My dog is male and any other color would have worked except for pink.

I've never done bathing, rehab or dying. Am I getting into something more difficult than a total novice can do?

Where do I start and what kind of dye would I buy? (I know not to use shoe polish!)
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missbaltimore said:
I've had reasonably good results with RIT liquid fabric dye. I do it in my kitchen sink (stainless) or in a repurposed kitty litter bucket. Use warmest water you can stand and soak the items before adding the dye so that they are already thoroughly wet. I've found that even with prewetting the dye has a hard time getting into the seams so make sure they are really wet. Then stir periodically so that they don't float and end up uneven. Also remember that going over a color like pink you will end up with some kind of blend-- dark green may result in muddy brown, black may be deep magenta, dark navy could give you a deep purple, etc. Also if the items are made similar to shoulder straps (I haven't seen the collars or leashes) is there edge sealant and what color? You might need to paint that too or maybe it could make a cool two-tone effect.
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I was thinking about suggesting RIT too. Red might be a good choice over the pink. Or you could use RIT color remover first and then any color would probably work.

A word of warning, I used RIT with very hot water on a Legacy duffle and it melted the edge sealant. So don't make the water too hot. If the edge sealant is black, it shouldn't be affected by the dye color.
 
#9,702
missbaltimore said:
Hi everyone! I'm back after a summer hiatus and am attacking my pile of rehabs. I have a Madison Pleated Sophia in Flint and I'm wondering if anyone has any advice. It is a beige-gray color, super soft, but has a mildly sparkly sheen to the leather and I'm worried that dunking it might damage that treatment whatever it is. The bag however is definitely dirty with a few spots as well as all-over grunge. Can I give it a bath? Thanks!
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I wouldn't dunk it. I think this leather is very delicate and could get worse in a bath.
 
#9,703
whateve said:
I was thinking about suggesting RIT too. Red might be a good choice over the pink. Or you could use RIT color remover first and then any color would probably work.

A word of warning, I used RIT with very hot water on a Legacy duffle and it melted the edge sealant. So don't make the water too hot. If the edge sealant is black, it shouldn't be affected by the dye color.
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If it's signature, I probably wouldn't use the dye remover. It could remove the dyes that make the signature Cs.
 
#9,705
Hello Everyone!

I have a bag that is filthy and really needs a bath, but one of the straps is weird. It's not quite cracked, more like flaking. However, it still feels stable and is very pliable; yet, it feels sorta gummy like one could just scrape off the filth. The other strap is fine, just kinda dirty. Would bathing this make the strap worse? Can I fill this in with something? Any advice? TIA

ETA: It's an NYC bag, from around 1979-1980.
 

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