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NikkiTheVet said:
Looks like she got a lot of her photos and text, some word for word, from here:
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Wow- word for word copying on most of it! She literally used screenshots and added photos. No credit to the original author and in the comments she definitely acts like she wrote it (although she cleverly doesn't exactly say she did).

I would most definitely not purchase from her. Not so much because she's spouting common mistakes but because she's clearly ok with misrepresenting things as her own. Even though the original author made mistakes their work shouldn't be stolen. Doesn't strike me as an honest person.
 
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RadhaDB said:
I'm so disappointed- I received my Duffle sac drawstring bag today and it has dry rot. I've actually never seen dry rotted leather before. The leather actually crumbles and dust and small pieces fall off when you touch it :sad:

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That is disappointing....and ugly! I actually got a bag with dry rot, although it wasn't as bad as what yours appears to be. Not knowing if there was a "fix", I contacted the eBay seller, mentioning that dry rot is not normal wear and it wasn't disclosed nor visible in her photos. She claimed she didn't realize it was dry rot and gave me a refund without returning the bag. Hopefully your seller will do the right thing if you contact her. Good Luck!!
 
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Jacynthe said:
what is dry rot? thanks in advance!
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Definition according to google:
" Dry rotting results when the oils of the leather evaporate, causing the fibers to dry out and pull apart from one another. The evaporation of oil causes the leather become weak and possibly crack or break as a result."

Also known as....why didn't someone condition and take care of this beautiful leather bag?!?!?
 
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DL Harper said:
Definition according to google:
" Dry rotting results when the oils of the leather evaporate, causing the fibers to dry out and pull apart from one another. The evaporation of oil causes the leather become weak and possibly crack or break as a result."

Also known as....why didn't someone condition and take care of this beautiful leather bag?!?!?
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Yes, essentially my understanding of dry rot is the the actual structure of the leather, the fibrous strands that it's made up of, have become so dry they break and crumble. It's irreparable because the fibers themselves are torn.
Interestingly, museum curators will use special gels to impregnate the leather and form a sort of lattice/binding to preserve historical leathers. It doesn't fix dry rot but it can sort of hold what's left of the leather in place. Very cool but obviously not suitable for a modern day bag you would want to use.

I'm wondering if this poor girl was stored in an attic or something. She's crunchy in some spots and then crumbly in others, and weirdly ok in a few places. ~sigh
 
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RadhaDB said:
Yes, essentially my understanding of dry rot is the the actual structure of the leather, the fibrous strands that it's made up of, have become so dry they break and crumble. It's irreparable because the fibers themselves are torn.
Interestingly, museum curators will use special gels to impregnate the leather and form a sort of lattice/binding to preserve historical leathers. It doesn't fix dry rot but it can sort of hold what's left of the leather in place. Very cool but obviously not suitable for a modern day bag you would want to use.

I'm wondering if this poor girl was stored in an attic or something. She's crunchy in some spots and then crumbly in others, and weirdly ok in a few places. ~sigh
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Because your bag is so dry, it could have been stored in an attic, or even an outside storage building (grandpas barn or shed?), warehouse, etc. That's the part we aren't usually aware of unless a seller happens to mention that the bag had been stored. The seller of the dry rot bag I got mentioned that she was going through her mothers' things and the bag had been stored. But that was when I contacted her regarding the condition.
In hindsight, the Nubuc I saw recently (THANKS again ladies for the "devil" warning!) had been stored. I only knew that because I messaged for additional info regarding the condition and more photos. The seller mentioned it had been in storage and was dry - that alone should have been my warning!!
Actually the same goes for mold. Those bags could have been stored in a box or container sitting on a concrete garage or basement floor which drew in moisture.
Since many sellers on eBay, etc are not the original owners, or even collectors in some cases, they likely do not know (or care) how or where the bag spent it's previous life.
Wondering if there is such a thing as early stage dry rot? Could that be the reason some bags are dying of thirst and soak up the condition rather quickly, needing many coats during the rehab process?
Rehabbers like a challenge, but.....

BTW - was your seller any help?
 
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DL Harper said:
Because your bag is so dry, it could have been stored in an attic, or even an outside storage building (grandpas barn or shed?), warehouse, etc. That's the part we aren't usually aware of unless a seller happens to mention that the bag had been stored. The seller of the dry rot bag I got mentioned that she was going through her mothers' things and the bag had been stored. But that was when I contacted her regarding the condition.
In hindsight, the Nubuc I saw recently (THANKS again ladies for the "devil" warning!) had been stored. I only knew that because I messaged for additional info regarding the condition and more photos. The seller mentioned it had been in storage and was dry - that alone should have been my warning!!
Actually the same goes for mold. Those bags could have been stored in a box or container sitting on a concrete garage or basement floor which drew in moisture.
Since many sellers on eBay, etc are not the original owners, or even collectors in some cases, they likely do not know (or care) how or where the bag spent it's previous life.
Wondering if there is such a thing as early stage dry rot? Could that be the reason some bags are dying of thirst and soak up the condition rather quickly, needing many coats during the rehab process?
Rehabbers like a challenge, but.....

BTW - was your seller any help?
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Yes, I'm wondering about a storage shed or unit- the bag came from Florida so if it wasn't climate controlled it could have gotten very hot for a long time.

Seller was great! Refunded me promptly and doesn't want bag back as they can't sell it as it is. I really appreciated not having a battle.
I'm hoping to save the hang tag and hardware if I can.
 
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RadhaDB said:
Yes, I'm wondering about a storage shed or unit- the bag came from Florida so if it wasn't climate controlled it could have gotten very hot for a long time.

Seller was great! Refunded me promptly and doesn't want bag back as they can't sell it as it is. I really appreciated not having a battle.
I'm hoping to save the hang tag and hardware if I can.
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So glad you got a no hassle refund! And a win for you if the hang tag, hardware and maybe a bit of good leather for repair or DIY.
 
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DL Harper said:
Definition according to google:
" Dry rotting results when the oils of the leather evaporate, causing the fibers to dry out and pull apart from one another. The evaporation of oil causes the leather become weak and possibly crack or break as a result."

Also known as....why didn't someone condition and take care of this beautiful leather bag?!?!?
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RadhaDB said:
Yes, essentially my understanding of dry rot is the the actual structure of the leather, the fibrous strands that it's made up of, have become so dry they break and crumble. It's irreparable because the fibers themselves are torn.
Interestingly, museum curators will use special gels to impregnate the leather and form a sort of lattice/binding to preserve historical leathers. It doesn't fix dry rot but it can sort of hold what's left of the leather in place. Very cool but obviously not suitable for a modern day bag you would want to use.

I'm wondering if this poor girl was stored in an attic or something. She's crunchy in some spots and then crumbly in others, and weirdly ok in a few places. ~sigh
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Thank you both @DL Harper and @RadhaDB!!! I guess I could have googled it as well but wanted to hear your opinions. Thank you for your time in replying! :flowers:
 
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Jacynthe said:
Thank you both @DL Harper and @RadhaDB!!! I guess I could have googled it as well but wanted to hear your opinions. Thank you for your time in replying! :flowers:
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You are welcome @Jacynthe and thanks for sharing @RadhaDB. More learning for those who rehab.
Google was a good source, but it's still hard to imagine leather falling apart until you see it happen. A sad way for what had been a beautiful leather bag to hit the landfill.
 
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