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Hi all! I recently got this army green (not sure of Coach's name for this color) Ergo that was dry as could be; I felt the need to oil the piping before I washed it to prevent further damage. Anyway, she had water spots on her, deep set from having gotten wet in her parched state, I'm assuming. I thought after dunking and conditioning, the spots would diminish... They haven't at all. Mind you, I'm only about 4 coats of Leather CPR in, but I'm beginning to think they won't go away and wondering if there's something I can/should do before just continuing to condition as it looks pretty bad.

Please forgive me if there's a thread about water marks already. I searched the forum and found a lot of interesting posts, but not quite what I was looking for since these marks are so bad they almost look like ink marks--I don't think they are though, and the seller said they were water marks (not that sellers are always truthful--haha) I've included pictures so you can see what I'm talking about.
The only thing I know that might work on water marks is dunking in extra hot water. I've had it work some but not perfectly.
 
So my bff is an animal! She actually dunked and rehabbed a STRAW Bleecker tote!! And it actually came out great! She had bought it second hand but it came to her with a very heavy perfume scent that nothing was getting it out. So she said screw it, and dunked this sucker in an OxyClean bath and set it outside to dry in the sun. Then she conditioned the leather trim. I have this same bag in the natural leather trim, so I know the straw is more flexible on this style, but I am pleased but also shocked at how well it came out.

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Love it. A few years ago, someone here posted that they had picked one of the wicker style bags, but it had become warped and it leaned badly. She let the bag soak for a bit in water, cleaned the lining iirc and she put a heavy glass vase in the bag to help the bottom reflatten to its regular shape and it came out great.
 
Yall are a bad influence because I keep adding colour to my collection lol!!!

Speaking of colour, I have a vintage coach bag on its way to me in the colour “bone” or maybe its “off white?” Not too sure. Anyways, can anyone who has rehabbed a bone coloured bag please explain the rehab process? Is it the same as any other colour coach bag? Also is there some sort of spray I can use on it to prevent denim and dye transfer that won’t damage the leather? Thank you in advance for any responses!!! :)
I dunked a bone Chester. The normal process. Except be gentle with scrubbing. Bone or white color bag, the color is more like coated on the leather surface, many times the stain marks we see is white color worn off and showing the darker leather underneath. @whateve suggested it before: using zit cream (Benzoyl Petoxide) to remove dark stains on white leather, it worked for me too. Get the maximum strength 5 percent .It is acting as mild bleach.
 

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Love it. A few years ago, someone here posted that they had picked one of the wicker style bags, but it had become warped and it leaned badly. She let the bag soak for a bit in water, cleaned the lining iirc and she put a heavy glass vase in the bag to help the bottom reflatten to its regular shape and it came out great.
That is good to know, I would have been so apprehensive to dunk something like that.
 
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I did a little conditioner testing on this sad briefcase before I dunk it. This is its current state:
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I tried some Leather Therapy and some CPR on the underside of the flap. LT is on the left side of the picture, CPR is on the right, and no conditioner in the middle:

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This is about 10 min after application. Just like the Court I'm working on, it seems like the LT enhances and deepens the color on scratches and imperfections in the leather. The CPR looked like that too right after application but the darkness faded as it was absorbed.

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and close up of the CPR side:
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I'll post a follow up in a couple of days to see if there's any change as they dry. On the whole, I'm pretty convinced that CPR is the way to go, esp on these lighter leathers (this forum already knew that, but I had to SEE it!).
I think I have your bag's Metropolitan cousin. I need to give it more CPR. I like to think of mine as Cool Hipster lol. Your's looks like a Cool Hipster. LOL Mine is just big enough for my laptop. And the handle is rivetted on like a son of a gun so it can handle the weight of the laptop without fear of tearing. So for now it is my laptop bag.

The Beekman is a beast! I found a beautiful Mahogany DR Beekman for cheap, but it was too heavy, empty! I sold it to a friend.
 
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Does anyone have tips on how to replace the turnlock and the brass part on the flap of bag that the turnlock goes through without denting or scratching the metal? I was thinking of using soft nosed pliers w/ silicone pads or regular pliers with soft cloth. I'm glad I removed the hardware because I got rid of the hidden verdigris but now I'm worried about ruining it putting it back on. TIA.
 
Hi all! I recently got this army green (not sure of Coach's name for this color) Ergo that was dry as could be; I felt the need to oil the piping before I washed it to prevent further damage. Anyway, she had water spots on her, deep set from having gotten wet in her parched state, I'm assuming. I thought after dunking and conditioning, the spots would diminish... They haven't at all. Mind you, I'm only about 4 coats of Leather CPR in, but I'm beginning to think they won't go away and wondering if there's something I can/should do before just continuing to condition as it looks pretty bad.

Please forgive me if there's a thread about water marks already. I searched the forum and found a lot of interesting posts, but not quite what I was looking for since these marks are so bad they almost look like ink marks--I don't think they are though, and the seller said they were water marks (not that sellers are always truthful--haha) I've included pictures so you can see what I'm talking about.
This is just my thinking, so take it for just that. I have dunked many bags with what appear to be water stains and they usually cover an area over at least a few inches and have varying degrees of fadedness. Off the top of my head, I can thing of two putty bags from early on, a chamois lightweight leather, a camel vintage and a pink tote from around '13 and yellow Legacy from '06? and the water stains were large, not droplet size. On all of these bags, most or all of the water stains can out. Also many of my bags have been caught in the rain with me. Some I wipe off, some I let dry. Now granted, they are conditioned, some well conditioned. But I have no water droplet stains on them.
I recently dunked a putty Court bag with a few small drop size stains, smaller than yours, that didn't budge with thorough cleaning or conditioning. So I doubt they were made by water. Because I would see even a dry bag, taking that drop of water and absorbing it and dispersing it. So whenever I buy a bag with small stains like on yours, I prepare myself for the possibility they are not water and will not come out. If they do great.
And these sellers, lol, insert eyeroll, whenever they talk about how a bag "just needs a little this or a little that" or a "professional cleaning", my first thought is that if it was as simple or as easy, they would do it and sell the bag for more $.
 
I am working on the Maghony Stewartness again. It was dunked about 2 months ago, when leather got wet the horrible smell was so shocking, imagine the smell of strong formaldehyde with rotting flesh undertone. I think the cause was improper tanning process, formaldehyde was commonly used in tannery in the past. I was hoping the smell will go away after washing with soap and vinegar, but the dunk did very little to the smell. After drying, the horrible smell faded dramaticly, but still strong enough thus the bag was not usable.
I was thinking about what to do with this bag for the past 2 months, it looked beautiful, leather was soft, just plain stink.
After lots of searching online, eventually I decided to desinfect the bag with over the counter 3 percent hydrogen peroxide. First sprayed the dry bag with straight hydrogen peroxide till bag was evenly wet, then poured 2 bottles of hydrogen peroxide into sink and soaked the bag in it. I had to turn the bag frequently since there was not enough to submerge the entire bag. After about 5 minutes, drained the sink and rinsed the bag thouroughly, then soaked it in vinegar water for about 5 minutes.
It is stuffed with towels and drying in basement right now. Hydrogen peroxide killed the smell almost imadiately, so far so good. Although it may do some damage to the leather, but better than throw away a otherwise nice bag.
I also believe hydrogen peroxide will eliminate other bio smell such mildew and mold too. Will post the final result when the bag is dry.
 
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I am working on the Maghony Stewartness again. It was dunked about 2 months ago, when leather got wet the horrible smell was so shocking, imagine the smell of strong formaldehyde with rotting flesh undertone. I think the cause was improper tanning process, formaldehyde was commonly used in tannery in the past. I was hoping the smell will go away after washing with soap and vinegar, but the dunk did very little to the smell. After drying, the horrible smell faded dramaticly, but still strong enough thus the bag was not usable.
I was thinking about what to do with this bag for the past 2 months, it looked beautiful, leather was soft, just plain stink.
After lots of searching online, eventually I decided to desinfect the bag with over the counter 3 percent hydrogen peroxide. First sprayed the dry bag with straight hydrogen peroxide till bag was evenly wet, then poured 2 bottles of hydrogen peroxide into sink and soaked the bag in it. I had to turn the bag frequently since there was not enough to submerge the entire bag. After about 5 minutes, drained the sink and rinsed the bag thouroughly, then soaked it in vinegar water for about 5 minutes.
It is stuffed with towels and drying in basement right now. Hydrogen peroxide killed the smell almost imadiately, so far so good. Although it may do some damage to the leather, but better than throw away a otherwise nice bag.
I also believe hydrogen peroxide will eliminate other bio smell such mildew and mold too. Will post the final result when the bag is dry.
Its all in on that bag now...lets hope it works for you. Will be interesting to see how it runs out.
You could dye it afterwards
 
I dunked a bone Chester. The normal process. Except be gentle with scrubbing. Bone or white color bag, the color is more like coated on the leather surface, many times the stain marks we see is white color worn off and showing the darker leather underneath. @whateve suggested it before: using zit cream (Benzoyl Petoxide) to remove dark stains on white leather, it worked for me too. Get the maximum strength 5 percent .It is acting as mild bleach.

Wow thank you so much for passing on the benzol peroxide tip to me! I have a 5% tube lying around, hope it works for me too :)
 
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