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Sigh. I didn't dunk because I was trying to take a conservative approach.

The sides of the bag were very dry, and I was a bit weary that the bag could crack after a bath.
In retrospect, I doubt that I should have been concerned.

The bag was in good condition, so I wasn't sure whether I wanted to dunk it at all. I'd been debating about to dunk or not to dunk. When I'd look at it, I'd basically think, "It's so pretty, as-is."

It had some signs of a bag that should be dunked, and I should have done that from the get go.

So now it's been dunked. :smile:

ETA: @coach943 Saw the edits to your post. Hahaha, yes. I won't condition before dunking again!
With this bag, I wasn't necessarily planning to dunk the bag anytime in the near future. I figured that I'd surface clean it, and condition it. Then, I figured that most likely, I'd wear the bag for a while, and maybe dunk it at some point down the road.
In this case, I didn't dunk the bag, and things went awry with conditioning.

I also used CPR first, and then Leather Therapy, which I probably shouldn't have. It seems that Leather Therapy, then CPR is the way to go?

You've mentioned that you use Leather Therapy. May I ask, ever experience this kind of darkening from Leather Therapy?
It darkened to almost black in some areas, but not in others.
My guess is that the conditioner may have reacted with dirt or oils that were already in the leather.
Or that the conditioner touched the suede areas on the back of the leather, and discoloured the leather.
Those are simply guesses.
(It happened on the strap of the bag too, mostly around the holes. I'd dunked the strap before conditioning.)

I'm curious if it's the way I used the product (rather than the product itself), which is what I suspect.

I think it is the way you used Leather Therapy that gave you those results. When I use Leather Therapy (or something like it, like Montana Oil or Obenauf's Oil), I use it first after dunking a bag. I typically wait 24 hours before I apply a second coat. (Though sometimes I only wait 12 if the bag is super dry.) You will get a sense of when the bag has had enough. It starts absorbing less conditioner.

I sometimes will apply Leather CPR or Skidmore's Leather Cream next if I think it still will take some conditioning. Then I finish with Blackrocks.

I think Leather Therapy darkens, but often it is because the bag needs conditioning and it is going back to its original color. I'll post some before/after of a bag I've been working on tomorrow so you can see the change for a really dry bag.

I honestly don't think I've ever used Leather Therapy or an oily conditioner to a bag I haven't dunked. If I don't think it needs dunked, then it doesn't need a conditioner like LT.
 
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Thanks so much, guys! You're awesome!

Btw, cleaned this bag with Lexol before conditioning, but it's not the same as a dunk.

So, yesterday I tried wiping off a bit of the bag with water and paper towel. I also tried with Leather Therapy Wash, and paper towel. And I tried a soft cloth, too.
Regardless, I could see a lot of the color was going to come off, so I stopped.

I used a spray bottle with water to spray the bag, and distributed with my fingers. That seemed to improve things; most of the Leather Therapy has absorbed, though not all of it. (And not much dye was on my fingers, compared with using paper towel, or a cloth.)

The main issue now is that there are some darker areas, which look almost like oil stains.
For example, on the bottom right corner.
(Similar thing happened on the strap, which had been dunked.)
Curious: has anyone had this happen with Leather Therapy Restorer & Conditioner? And if so, does it fade with time?

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Now, think I'm going to try dunking the bag, and using Dawn.
Which type of Dawn have you used?


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I dilute the blue Ultra 1:1 for my kitchen and cleaning use. So I’ll use a squirt of that.
 
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I think it is the way you used Leather Therapy that gave you those results. When I use Leather Therapy (or something like it, like Montana Oil or Obenauf's Oil), I use it first after dunking a bag. I typically wait 24 hours before I apply a second coat. (Though sometimes I only wait 12 if the bag is super dry.) You will get a sense of when the bag has had enough. It starts absorbing less conditioner.

I sometimes will apply Leather CPR or Skidmore's Leather Cream next if I think it still will take some conditioning. Then I finish with Blackrocks.

I think Leather Therapy darkens, but often it is because the bag needs conditioning and it is going back to its original color. I'll post some before/after of a bag I've been working on tomorrow so you can see the change for a really dry bag.

I honestly don't think I've ever used Leather Therapy or an oily conditioner to a bag I haven't dunked. If I don't think it needs dunked, then it doesn't need a conditioner like LT.

Thanks!!

Annnd now I'm debating about whether to apply Leather Therapy tonight.
Or whether to start applying Leather CPR tomorrow.

I'm a little concerned that I'll do Leather CPR over the next few days, and the bag will still be dry.
And then I guess I'll be out of options, other than to apppy more coats of CPR?
(Because Leather Therapy should be done before CPR.)

ETA
What I'm asking is: what happens if, after several coats of CPR, the leather is still dry?
What do people do, at that point?
 
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I'm in the process of rehabbing my first bag, and I'm hoping to get some feedback. I dunked it and put 3 coats of leather CPR and 2 Blackrock. I was hoping the spotting would come out with conditioning because the bag was dry. As you can see the spotting is still there and the flap is darker than the inside of the bag. Is there anything I can do to lessen the spotting?IMG_2229.jpeg
 
Thanks!!

Annnd now I'm debating about whether to apply Leather Therapy tonight.
Or whether to start applying Leather CPR tomorrow.

I'm a little concerned that I'll do Leather CPR over the next few days, and the bag will still be dry.
And then I guess I'll be out of options, other than to apppy more coats of CPR?
(Because Leather Therapy should be done before CPR.)

ETA
What I'm asking is: what happens if, after several coats of CPR, the leather is still dry?
What do people do, at that point?
If you think the leather is really dry, I'd use Leather Therapy. Use it until it stops absorbing the conditioner.

Also, I don't think you'll have a problem with it being dry just using CPR. I've only used CPR on lots of rehabs. Lots of people here use CPR, too. Your bag doesn't look especially dry. You can just keep using it until the bag stops absorbing it.

I've had rehabs where I apply a couple coats and it was done. I've also had rehabs where I've applied lots of coats before it was done. The leather will let you know when it is done being conditioned.
 
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I'm in the process of rehabbing my first bag, and I'm hoping to get some feedback. I dunked it and put 3 coats of leather CPR and 2 Blackrock. I was hoping the spotting would come out with conditioning because the bag was dry. As you can see the spotting is still there and the flap is darker than the inside of the bag. Is there anything I can do to lessen the spotting?View attachment 4475854
Are those stains from something splashed on the bag? Or is it mold damage? Either way, I don't think you're going to improve those spots if it still looks like that after dunking and conditioning. I'm not one to paint bags or use a leather refinisher, but that's probably the only thing you can do at this point.
 
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I'm in the process of rehabbing my first bag, and I'm hoping to get some feedback. I dunked it and put 3 coats of leather CPR and 2 Blackrock. I was hoping the spotting would come out with conditioning because the bag was dry. As you can see the spotting is still there and the flap is darker than the inside of the bag. Is there anything I can do to lessen the spotting?View attachment 4475854
I think that looks like mold damage. If it is, it won't clean off.
 
I know we have some new rehabbers in the group, so I thought I'd share my latest rehab. It has been a while since I rehabbed a bag. This is an old skinny flight bag with the longer handles and no crossbody strap. I like this style because I like straps long enough to shoulder-carry rather than crossbody.

The bag was very misshapen, and the color was faded because of lack of conditioning. I dunked using Castile soap and let it soak for 15-20 minutes. I used vinegar in the rinse and rinsed until I was sure no soap remained. I stuffed with old towels and started conditioning after the bag dried a bit.

I started conditioning with Montana Pitch-Blend Oil. The bag really soaked in the conditioner. I did the first few rounds after about 12 hours because the bag really absorbed the conditioner. I then waited 24-36 hours between coats. I lost track of how many coats of Montana oil I used. It was probably 4 or 5. I also did a round of CPR in there, but went back to the Montana oil because the CPR absorbed more than I expected it to and I realized the bag was drier than I thought.

Then I let the bag sit for a week or so. (I also buffed with a horsehair brush between coats and randomly a couple times during the week I let it rest.) I felt like the bag was pretty well conditioned, so I did a coat of Blackrocks. I let it sit for another week or so and did a final coat of Blackrocks today. I buffed again and polished the brass.

The color is a bit uneven, but that is not surprising given the state of the bag when I started. I'm very happy with how it turned out. I love the heavy, chewy leather of this bag.

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Good morning ladies....
I just got authenticated this little thing I had, and I want to clean the canvas (not dunking or putting in washer), but I am still afraid that if wet the red leather still might bleed into it? I never cleaned a bag with this type of material, any advice will be welcome :smile:

(I am going to post on the ID this... because I do not know what it is, a Soho, mini hobo, demi....?)

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Thanks!!

Annnd now I'm debating about whether to apply Leather Therapy tonight.
Or whether to start applying Leather CPR tomorrow.

I'm a little concerned that I'll do Leather CPR over the next few days, and the bag will still be dry.
And then I guess I'll be out of options, other than to apppy more coats of CPR?
(Because Leather Therapy should be done before CPR.)

ETA
What I'm asking is: what happens if, after several coats of CPR, the leather is still dry?
What do people do, at that point?

You'd mentioned the D-rings facing backwards being a bothersome thing for you -- did you stuff the bag with towels after dunking it and leaving them there while it dried? That would have poofed out the sides a bit. It's also possible the heaviness of the towels you're using to reshape the handle are pulling the bag slightly backwards as a result. Do they still face backwards after the handle-shaper is removed?

I agree with @coach943 that the bag doesn't look particularly dry at this point and would probably be fine with a couple coats of CPR spaced out over a couple days or so. That's all I've been using on my two rehabs thus far and the bags seem to look pretty good. (I need to do a coat of Blackrocks on them both and will then post my pics!)
 
I'm in the process of rehabbing my first bag, and I'm hoping to get some feedback. I dunked it and put 3 coats of leather CPR and 2 Blackrock. I was hoping the spotting would come out with conditioning because the bag was dry. As you can see the spotting is still there and the flap is darker than the inside of the bag. Is there anything I can do to lessen the spotting?View attachment 4475854

I had a bag with similar "looking" type spotting and nothing I tried worked for it, it was on the front side as well. After giving up, I put it up for sale and someone bought it loving the spots, said that made the bag have "character", that it was unique.
Matter of "someone's trash is someone's treasure..." , not saying that yours is trash, LOL just that if not happy after you are done, may be someone will love it the way it is. :biggrin:
 
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