Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

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Yeah it's not leather. Neither is the 22 bag. Bonded leather at best. See the peeling above the chafing? NOT leather lol.

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I came across plenty of Chanel bags that I wanted to purchase but I immediately stopped because of that plasticly feel and look. I couldn't put my finger on what this material was. For me just because it's Chanel and the history I refuse to purchase any merchandise that is subpar quality.
 
I came across plenty of Chanel bags that I wanted to purchase but I immediately stopped because of that plasticly feel and look. I couldn't put my finger on what this material was. For me just because it's Chanel and the history I refuse to purchase any merchandise that is subpar quality.
Yep. When you really study it you go, this isn't luxurious leather. I did the same for awhile, stopped really thinking about it. And one day I was like, wait WHAT IS THIS STUFF?
 
I have seen in the last two seasons the lining of the bags like mini ,bus affinity are lined with leather .Now I seriously wonder if its this material :sad:
I think most of the seasonal caviars are just stamped PU leather (bonded) as they are all plasticky. I know they reinforced the boy bag corners w/ PU leather, I am sure b/c of the issues with wear there. I am sure the CCH corners as well as those were a mess. I don't doubt they are trying to use cheaper materials to make these things wear longer/ better than actually just using higher end materials (thick, dyed, top leathers) in the first place, but now even the chemical Frankenstein combo isn't working.
 
Yeah it's not leather. Neither is the 22 bag. Bonded leather at best. See the peeling above the chafing? NOT leather lol.

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This is very similar to 22 bag issue. Omg staying away from this bag too. It’s confusing would they be mixing fake leather batches of bags with real leather bags so consumers will get confused. Thanks for posting…
 
This is very similar to 22 bag issue. Omg staying away from this bag too. It’s confusing would they be mixing fake leather batches of bags with real leather bags so consumers will get confused. Thanks for posting…
I don't think any of them are 100% leather. None of the 22's are 100% leather and I DO know that to be a fact. None of the 19's are 100% leather and I also know that to be a fact. I would imagine "good" and "bad" ones have more to do w/ which factory & failure of the chemical compounds than mixing up real vs not.
 
I think most of the seasonal caviars are just stamped PU leather (bonded) as they are all plasticky. I know they reinforced the boy bag corners w/ PU leather, I am sure b/c of the issues with wear there. I am sure the CCH corners as well as those were a mess. I don't doubt they are trying to use cheaper materials to make these things wear longer/ better than actually just using higher end materials (thick, dyed, top leathers) in the first place, but now even the chemical Frankenstein combo isn't working.
So I wonder if our “classics lambskin bags” are made with fake leather now… wow I can see this is going to hurt their reputation and they should be on list of “fast fashion” rather than luxury.
 
So I wonder if our “classics lambskin bags” are made with fake leather now… wow I can see this is going to hurt their reputation and they should be on list of “fast fashion” rather than luxury.
Well, I mean, making 15 million bags a year + kind of puts them in that category already? I think the REV bags are still 100% leather. My BLACK reissues & BLACK & beige clair jumbos are veiny & irregular surfaces. I knew they did something weird to the 19s when they came out b/c they felt like plastic, but honestly, I didn't care all that much cuz I've taken them out in the rain, spilled food on them, coffee on them, thrown them around, put them on the floor, and they've held up well. So, I mean, not great but that was a decent offset.

There's another thread out there right now about all this stuff BUT Chanel sells a feeling, not necessarily a quality product. I think people are hooked no matter what material they use! ;)
 
I know, unbelievable. My SA said she can't even keep up with the complaints coming in every day about defects. They are just refunding refunding refunding. I feel sorry for the SA. I bought the black too, tags on, and only 7 days since it arrived. Glad I saw this now, not later.
Are the complaints only about this bag or just bags in general? I'm trying to get a quality classic flap but have gone through 5 bags with 5 big different issues I couldn't ignore for the price tag.
 
I came across plenty of Chanel bags that I wanted to purchase but I immediately stopped because of that plasticly feel and look. I couldn't put my finger on what this material was. For me just because it's Chanel and the history I refuse to purchase any merchandise that is subpar quality.
A black classic I returned looked very plasticy to me.. similar to patent .. almost like it was coated with something. Just trying to understand if that's what you mean? And if I come across this again does this mean it's subpar quality of leather?
 
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Are the complaints only about this bag or just bags in general? I'm trying to get a quality classic flap but have gone through 5 bags with 5 big different issues I couldn't ignore for the price tag.
Oh no, about all bags. And RTW. Apparently if you purchase something with nice CC buttons on it now they keep the item to reinforce the buttons before releasing it to you. I had a sweater like combust on me 2 weeks ago while trying it on. Tons of leather goods are actually sent to repair shops BEFORE even arriving at the boutiques now b/c they are coming from overseas defective.
 
Oh no, about all bags. And RTW. Apparently if you purchase something with nice CC buttons on it now they keep the item to reinforce the buttons before releasing it to you. I had a sweater like combust on me 2 weeks ago while trying it on. Tons of leather goods are actually sent to repair shops BEFORE even arriving at the boutiques now b/c they are coming from overseas defective.
Yes this is true. I have heard that is some of the reason bags show up really late, its because a batch needed to be fixed.

A black classic I returned looked very plasticy to me.. similar to patent .. almost like it was coated with something. Just trying to understand if that's what you mean? And if I come across this again does this mean it's subpar quality of leather?
I have no doubt Chanel has aligned themselves with some very quality embroidery people etc but as far as leather, there is nothing talked about at all. Caviar is stamped leather. Why does it need to be stamped? Other designers do it too. If you think to some of the sandals or flip flops we are buying, Im not sure if those are leather? If you look back at some of the vintage bags, those are definitely of better quality and materials.
 
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