From member TDL, Torrent (F/W 2008) and Bottle (F/W 2010) ....
I'm not sure about Torrent being darker than Bottle. They are both dark and the difference is the former has more yellow tones while the latter has more blue tones. Gun to my head, I'd even score Bottle to be a tad darker than Torrent. I shared this pic previously... my Torrent wallet on a Large Bottle Veneta.
Top row: Platino Ossidato Barcelona Calf Cabat; attached pouch
Second row: Nappa Peltro Drop Bag; Peltro Ossidato Cervo Illusion Bookmark Bag
Third row: Ottone Goatskin Pouch