Bill Skarsgård

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Bill Skarsgård: Hollywood’s Current (and Creepiest) “It” Boy in Summer’s Hottest Style
He isn’t a villain—he just plays one exceedingly well, especially as a cannibalistic clown in the It reboot. Here, Sweden’s next big acting export shows that when it comes to killer summer style, nothing gives you an edge like jet-black suits, jackets, and overcoats.

Not long after donning the nightmarish makeup of child-eating psycho clown Pennywise in last year's remake of It, Bill Skarsgård found himself in a nightmare of his own: fame. Leaving N.Y.C.’s Comic Con, he encountered a herd of autograph seekers—not fans, but professional sellers—outside his hotel. He signed a few and drove off. Hungry still, six of the signature hunters—four in a car, two on bikes—showed up at the next red light, and the next few after that, hounding him for autographs at each. “I think it’s easy for people to think of celebrity as something attractive. That aspect of it scares the **** out of me,” says the 27-year-old.

That wave of recognition is unlikely to wane anytime soon. He stars in Hulu’s Stephen King–inspired Castle Rock, out July 25. In a cast of notable names (André Holland, Melanie Lynskey, Sissy Spacek), he's the standout—especially impressive when you consider he barely has any lines, acting almost entirely through his expressive eyes and dull, awkward shuffle. He plays the creepy, emaciated boy found hidden deep in the bowels of the local jail (named "Shawshank") in Castle Rock, Maine, where the show is set—and the search for his identity drives the first season's plot. He'll out-act another cast in a small role in September’s feminist revenge fantasy Assassination Nation (think: Salem Witch Trials in the Internet Age). And he's headed back to the makeup chair for the It sequel. That’s good news for Skarsgård’s career and bad news for his reservations about modern celebrity. (“What’s it like for Rihanna? She can’t go down and buy a doughnut.”)

In conversation, Skarsgård comes off as extremely meditative—Zen almost—speaking in slow, thoughtful sentences, with a relaxed ease that is magnetic. After dressing him in summer's coolest outerwear, GQ talked to him about becoming famous, his extremely creepy stare, and why he stays off social media.

GQ: So has your life gotten any less nomadic? I know last time we chatted with you, we talked about how you haven't really had a home base for a while.
I'm still going to be nomadic, but Stockholm is where my family's from. It just feels like it makes sense to have a place there. I've essentially not had a home since I was maybe 20. I can't see myself as a very domesticated person, with a suburb house and stuff like that.

I'm almost 28—it's not as happy-go-lucky as it was in the early 20s, when you're flying by the seat of your pants and having a good time. You gotta confront some real stuff. I'm enjoying that part of it as well. It's not so much that I feel like I am more responsible—it's that I need to be more responsible. I pretty much feel like the same person I was three years ago, but now it's "Oh, ****, now I need to present myself in a different way or approach these new choices in a different way."

It's been a sort of breakout year. Has it felt that way to you?
Not really. There's been a level of attention—a shift, I've noticed. Autograph hunters, people waiting for you when you land at the airport. Which is like, "Oh, really? Is this gonna be what life is now?"

How do you prepare for a role like the one you have in Castle Rock—I guess not too different from Pennywise, either—that is so physical and not as much vocal?
There were a lot of psychological aspects that I was really intrigued by. What happens if you're contained or isolated in a space like he's been in? It's sort of a cage in a dark room, and this is someone that's been there for a very long time. That changes you drastically. So that played into the physicality of it. If you haven't used your muscles or your body in a really long time, things are going to be a little bit awkward. Then also socially he has maybe a hard time looking at someone in the eyes.

I did a lot of research on what solitary confinement does to you, how you become acclimated to being surrounded by people again after being by yourself for such a long time. It's really a horrific thing. It's definitely worth considering it as torture. We're just not meant to be in solitary confinement.

How difficult is it to sort of step in and out of that character, to acclimate back into the world of people after existing in that headspace?
I wanted him to be very malnourished. So, starting off the show, I sort of starved myself. I wanted a really gaunt look. You get into a weird headspace when you haven't eaten anything for a while—not drinking water even. That helped me initially get into the character. I think every character that I play has a certain sort of tone or an energy level to them. With this character, it's pretty low-energy and very contained, so you have to sort of be in that state of mind off the camera as well.

When you say you were starving yourself, what did your diet look like at the beginning of shooting?
A couple of months before we started shooting, I cut out all carbs and slowly lost weight. And then, three weeks before we started shooting, I got more and more intense on it. There's this thing called ketogenic diet. Essentially, you don't eat any carbs whatsoever. You eat protein and high fat. And once your body starts using fat as fuel, as opposed to carbs, you burn fat like crazy. And then I would do a couple of days of fasting, stuff like that. And he was so isolated, so I spent a lot of time just with myself, talking to myself. I lost almost 30 pounds. It really changes your face when you're gaunt like that. That really played well for the character, sort of high cheekbones and your eyes become even bigger. So I'm happy that I did it. But it wasn't always fun.

You’ve had quite a streak of dark characters. We need to get you in a rom-com.
[laughs] Yeah, I know. I saw some of the headlines for the trailers: “Skarsgård is creepy again!” People ask, what draws you to this type of material? It's not the genre itself, rather than it is the particular project that appealed to me. It's actually by happenstance that I just happened to be doing these type of dark, weird characters back to back. I just finished up sort of an indie [called Villains]—it's a dark movie, but it's like a dark comedy, and my character is really funny, and that was such a weird, refreshing thing.

One of the most impressive things in your performance is how expressive your eyes are. Have you ever turned your Pennywise stare, or the stare in this show, on anyone in real life?
[laughs] I think I’ve gotten that before—people have been like, “Oh, you have a creepy stare.” My energy personally is not as threatening, I don't think. Certainly not as creepy, I hope. I have a friend, his thing is like—he perfected his psycho look. So whenever there's an escalation or a confrontation out at a bar or whatever, he would just turn on his psycho look. And I was intrigued by that. Like, hmm, maybe that’s a good weapon. But it only works so far. Like, if they don't back down, you have to actually engage in a fight.
 
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At what point did you know that It was as big of a success as it became?
I saw the almost-finished cut, and I brought my brother Gustaf and my best friend Landon to the screening. It was a small screening. It was like ten, fifteen people in the room, but they were like, "Holy ****, this is a ****ing hit." I remember the producers being like, "I know that some predictions say that it's going to do 55 [million] for the first weekend, but I think we could do 70." And we ended up doing, like, 125? That was something I never could have hoped for. And then I was also happy that it resonated so well with a younger audience, because it's a delicate thing: It's an R-rated movie, but it's essentially for a younger audience. I meet 7-year-olds that are fans of the film. And you're like, "Who let you watch this?"

As soon as I got out of the screening for Assassination Nation, I was trying to come up with a word to characterize it in my head. I'm curious how you would summarize what it's about.
It's a hard thing to categorize. I think that's a movie that if it succeeds in what it's trying to do, it will affect the people that are living within this world of social media and how you present yourself. How does that affect you? You're constantly living this life of being a young woman or a young man or whatever, but there's an expectation of how you should act in this public online forum. I've deliberately tried to stay away from it because I don't know what it does to you. Let alone if you're 12 and you're on it; 12-year-olds don't know who they are.

I don't think social media necessarily is one of those ticking time bombs or impending dooms. I think every generation has had, "Oh, my God, Generation Z is lost because of this and this and this." Kids will be fine. They'll just be a little bit different, but they'll be fine. There's negative aspects of it and there's positive aspects of it, but it's hard to imagine because it's changing so much. Even for me, when I was a teenager, social media wasn't really a thing. Someone that's only five or ten years younger than me had a completely different experience.

We didn't grow up with it, but everyone our age is using it, right? I'm curious how you came to that decision to keep some of that private stuff to yourself at a time when I feel like people that are public figures put so much out there.
I'm not even sure that I have the right or mature answer to it. I've always been reluctant to [use] it, [because] I don't know what it does to you if you constantly get massive amounts of feedback from an unimaginable amount of people. If you post something and get 20,000 likes—that's a filled arena of people liking what you did. I feel like there's a responsibility to that audience that might demand more than just selfies and self-advertising. I'm not sure if I've come to the place where I'm mature enough to know what that would be. What's my message to an arena filled with people? It can't be just "Hey, check out my new thing." Or maybe it could be!

If you sit with that unimaginable level of attention at all times, there's obviously a thrill that you can get addicted to, that power of having that attention. For every post, you get a hundred comments of fans saying how much they like you. What does that do to you? It'd be interesting to have a psychological study. Maybe they should do it on me. Track if I become a monster. You haven't called your mom in months. Maybe, just maybe, you start thinking that you're more important than you actually are, and I don't think that's a good thing.

I feel like in your position it'd be very easy to get a big head. What do you have in your life that keeps you grounded?
This won't sound very humble, but I think I'm pretty self-confident. I think people that get really big egos are very insecure. People that their heads blow up, or they constantly need a sort of validation or to feel that they're important—they're very insecure or brittle people at the core. It manifests in this sort of "I think I'm the coolest, most important person in the world." But where it comes from—it's this lack of self-awareness.

I can certainly be really insecure and weird and strange and awful in a lot of ways. But I don't feel like I need to have the outside world validating my greatness or whatever. I'm like, "I'm pretty good." And I'm fine with that. I know that I can be really ****ty, and that's also okay. It's important: looking at yourself and going, "I'm a piece of **** at times, and that's okay." That sounds easy, but it's really hard for people, to be okay with being just you. Once you've reached that point, I think it's easier to not be an *******.

When did you first get comfortable to come to that sort of realization?
It's not even fair either, because I don't think I've done too much to deserve it. I think I've just been that way in a lot of ways. I feel awkward in too much spotlight. I've never craved attention. Obviously, my dad was a very famous actor in Sweden, and the worst thing anybody could do when I was a kid is mention who my dad is in front of strangers, because then they're gonna see me differently. Sometimes they treat you negatively, sometimes they treat you positively, but I was like, "I don't want people to treat me any different." They should treat me differently because of who I am. So if I'm a piece of **** at you, you should be upset about that. If I'm really cool and interesting, you should like that.

How does your fame in the U.S. compare to your fame in Sweden?
I had my breakout years in Sweden when I was young, really young. It took years before people started recognizing me here, which is cool, too, because whenever I came here, I was nobody. You sit and you talk to your friend and you say a bunch of ****; it doesn't matter. If someone recognizes you and goes, "That's that guy," and you say ****, it's a weird feeling, like people are sort of eavesdropping. I would come here in America and nobody knew who I was or cared, and that was nice. Now I feel like it's almost evened out a little bit. So, I'm going to Japan.

That's, in some ways, what Assassination Nation gets at: If we all knew the things we were saying to each other in private, we'd ****ing kill each other.
Absolutely. I don't think there's anyone out there that would want their conversations with their best friends released.

There was an interview with your dad in Interview magazine that made it seem like you were a pretty fearless child. That ever get you in trouble?
It definitely gets you into trouble, especially because I wasn't scared of consequences. I would just do stupid things. My parents had to go to the principal's office from time to time. Like, "Oh, he's done something." But then, I was 13 or 14 and I'm like, "Oh, ****. Okay. Now I understand that my behavior has consequences." [Like,] I would make fun of someone. I was just breaking his balls, but he got really upset about it. I come from a family of all brothers, it's part of it. You make fun of things. It's an atmosphere where you don't tiptoe around. My older brothers were picking on me. I thought it was the funniest thing ever. I loved it. So I had a hard time understanding that other people might not appreciate you picking on them.

How close did you come to not being an actor? Was that a real possibility?
It definitely would've been a stronger possibility if the opportunities didn't present themselves. The reason why [I acted] wasn't me going, "I'm going to act now." It was that opportunities presented themselves that I jumped on and that led to me getting work. It never felt like a conscious choice of mine as much as "Oh, this is what I'm doing right now, and this is what I'm gonna do." The only choices or things that I've [had] in my head for what profession I want to do has been either "Should I act or should I not act?" It's never been "I'll be a doctor." I never had any strong inclination [for] anything else.

source: https://www.gq.com/story/bill-skarsgard-cruel-summer
 

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Bill Skarsgård, Hollywood's leading bogeyman, is here to star in your nightmares
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Pennywise showed up in Toronto last month — to Bill Skarsgård’s relief. Yes, relief.

Production had begun on It: Chapter Two, the follow-up to 2017’s horror smash, and the actor who’d embodied Stephen King’s iconic child-devouring, sewer-dwelling monster in the remake was about to do his first camera test. Director Andy Muschietti was back at the helm.

Rehearsals had started. And Skarsgård had even comfortably hung out with the new, adult Losers’ Club cast. Still, it had been more than a year since he last transformed into the creature. Would he be able to summon It back out of hibernation?

“I didn’t know what I would have to do to climb back in, or how much I would have to redo,” he says. “The character demands so much of you in terms of focus, concentration, and energy. It’s just soooo much.”

The 27-year-old needn’t have worried. In true Pennywise fashion, the dancing clown resurfaced “instantaneously,” Skarsgård recalls. “I was surprised,” he marvels. “He was there.”
Then again, It itself never scared Skarsgård. He likes uncanny roles; it’s why he’s diving back into King’s fictional, tormented Maine this summer on Castle Rock, Hulu’s anthology series set just miles away from the equally nightmare-ridden Derry. Skarsgård stars as an unnamed, unsettling Shawshank prison inmate (above) discovered underground.

To portray a man who’s been literally kept in the dark for who knows how long, Skarsgård lost weight, studied the psychological effects of solitary confinement, and adopted a wounded posture — one he shed only in his trailer on set, where EW stopped by in December. “It’s a fun, transformative character, very mysterious, very weird and creepy,” he said then, still dressed in his drab prison garb. “I tend to like those types of characters where it allows you to be more creative with your performance, because you’re playing something very unlike yourself.” Adds his Castle Rock costar Sissy Spacek, who also knows a thing or two about the King universe: “He’s very enigmatic in this show.”

Just to be clear, though: Playing otherworldly parts in back-to-back King (or King-adjacent) adaptations wasn’t Skarsgård’s plan, and neither was becoming Hollywood’s leading bogeyman. Sure, his biggest roles have preyed on fear, beginning with three seasons as a half-human, half-vampire (okay, üpir) on Netflix’s Hemlock Grove, and even his smaller turns, like his acid-spitting mutant in Deadpool 2, come with a dose of body horror, but it’s coincidence, not strategy. “It has turned out that way, and I do think you have to be mindful of the roles you take so you’re not too limited,” he says, “but I’m not worried.”

The success of It has intimidated him more, despite his thespian pedigree. (You know, as son of Stellan, brother of Alexander and Gustaf, and member of Sweden’s unofficial royal acting family.) When It hit theaters last fall, the film not only became the highest-grossing King adaptation in history, it also broke the record for the highest-grossing horror film of all time. That meant losing Hollywood as a place where he could lie low. “I started my career in Sweden, so America was almost a refuge, in a way,” he says. “I would come over to the States and nobody would know who I was. Now I… guess I can’t do that anymore.” He laughs, then sighs. “It’s strange. I’m trying to roll with it.”

That includes not engaging on social media, though he lurks online using private accounts. (“I do have access,” he admits. “I’m not against it on principle.”) So, yes, he’s seen the fan art/fiction that cropped up after It — even the X-rated material. “My friend sent me a link to this whole website devoted to sexual fantasies with Pennywise, and, I don’t know, man….” He trails off, sounding more amazed than afraid. “Attractions and fetishes come in all shapes and forms, so whatever works for you, you know? But I was definitely not trying to go for sexy in any sort of way. I’m a clown that eats children!”

And one that’s about to become “even angrier” in Chapter Two, Skarsgård teases. He starts shooting the sequel soon, but from there, who knows? He doesn’t, not yet. “I think you should use attention responsibly,” he muses. “I want to use this little bit of momentum that I have to move on to the next step, to be able to really start developing my own projects.” Because unlike Pennywise, Skarsgård doesn’t hibernate.

Castle Rock premieres July 25 on Hulu. It: Chapter Two is in production.

source: http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/17/bill-skarsgard-pennywise-it-castle-rock-interview/
 
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