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Via said:
Yes, they tied you up because as we are unconscious, our body tend to move around and tying our body up will help prevent any distraction cause by our body movement , allowing the surgeon to fully focused on operating you. I did rhinoplasty before and thats what they did as well :)
* i posted my b&a rhino pic in asiannosejob3 thread before too, quite happy with it :)

You may fine this info helpful too lotsajunkie : http://www.realself.com/eyelid-surgery/answers/healing

Rest up more and drink lots of water too!

Hey Via, thanks for the link. I found it really insightful and it gives me hope that I'm really going to see positive results very soon. :)

I'm resting alot currently, as I can't go out to face people much just as yet, and I can't wait to move around like before once I'm looking better, as it gets really boring for me now, staying home everyday. So here I am, updating the forum everyday. Haha
 
vny said:
Thanks a lot babe...

Yes spoke with jiwon on the phone too, she seems very nice and caring, she'd tried to accomodate all I need. But i guess that a typical sales person do, don't you think?
Tomorrow 2 oct is my consulation with wonjin and they suggested and booked for me the operation at the same day later in the late afternoon. Which might not gv me enough chance to made my consultation at grand on thursday 04 oct.

I'm still pretty much worried and lost in which clinic i want to do it with. Because they all seems to perform a same type of surgery, only done by diff doctors and diff clinics. Also each patients have a diff type of nose so each case might be different from the other.

I gues its really hard to make this decision as this is a matter of 20 yrs or more to live with your new look for better or worst :)

Hey vny, I totally understand how confused you may be feeling now, as I was in the same situation just barely 2 weeks ago. I think the best bet is to go with a surgeon u feel comfortable talking to, have a translator who can clearly translate what you want to the doctor, as you wouldn't want the doctor to decide how you should look, but rather, be able to communicate what your expectations of the surgeries are, the kind of look you are going for, and whether it can be achieved on your facial features.

After what I have been through, I do think having good aftercare is important to a patient's well being, physically ( as in taking care of your wounds such as disinfecting for you, changing the dressing every alternate days for hygiene etc) and mentally ( giving you assurance you're healing well and they are there for you through this period of time). But of course it is only how I value it, some people may disregard aftercare service so long as the surgeon is able to deliver results and the price is reasonable. I will prefer the full package and actually wouldn't mind paying abit more for good aftercare.

Of course price is also a factor to consider, after all, we all do go to Korea with a budget in mind. So long as you've found a surgeon you can place your trust in, price is secondary as you can do a slight negotiation to bring it closer to your budget.

I suggest you not to rush into doing the surgery like I did. I felt I had no choice as I had only planned 7 days for recovery and flew back to my country right on the day of removing my stitches. Because you will hate yourself for making a hasty decision and not giving yourself the chance to seek another clinic or surgeon's advice. I am still crossing my fingers I did not make a wrong choice, although mine was a carefully thought, yet hasty decision on my part due to the short amount of time I had in Korea. Please don't make a mistake like I did. If given a chance, I will have seek more clinics for advice, and even if at the end of the day I still ended up choosing to do my surgeries with Grand, I will have felt more at eased, knowing I made a choice, out of the many choices I have, rather than wondering now what if I had done the surgeries with another clinic, will it turn out better and different? Will other surgeons also suggest the same method or take a different approach? You know what I mean?

All the best to choosing the right clinic, I hope you will have a great result! Stay positive and don't worry too much if you have decided on a clinic already! Trust your instinct!!
 
Heya.

I guess u went thru what I made myself go thru as well - slow healing, rush decision, obligated.

I still feel remorseful choosing BK as I was challenging time too. I was cryin regret after paying deposit and not to mention the wrong surgeon (I still cant believe Sha**77 raved him...?!)

Though one month into my surgery, my nostrils r still uneven from swelling and my right eye squints assymetrically due to stiff stitching from the lateral corner. I started tapping gently on the corner from the 3rd week and saw slight improvement - right eye is opening up - and I still use a warm pack occassionally n tapping it as much as I can (but gently ok).

I must say that your post-op stay in Seoul was way too rushed. I had partial stitches removed on the 7th day until the 10th and 12th. Send your concern to the surgeon via your consultant to seek advice.

In all, pressuring a patient to commit the surgery cos "there's a free slot in the surgeon's schedule tomorrow" is a BIG NO NO. An hr on the surgeon's calendar does not equate adequacy for your 2-hr surgery - thus the abrupt and brutal operation. I observed their malpractise through my experience so advising ppl not to be stacked in between patients. A morning appointment is also better than an afternoon one.

Please remember: "Patience is a virtue". A rushed operation always ends in regret. Give yourself ample time to rationalise your decision. Its your face n $ afterall.

* I am still praying for a positive result... :)

I am still keeping you in my thoughts and hoping for the best results! <3 <3 <3
I hope you are holding up well! :)
 
Eightbelow said:
Heya.

I guess u went thru what I made myself go thru as well - slow healing, rush decision, obligated.

I still feel remorseful choosing BK as I was challenging time too. I was cryin regret after paying deposit and not to mention the wrong surgeon (I still cant believe Sha**77 raved him...?!)

Though one month into my surgery, my nostrils r still uneven from swelling and my right eye squints assymetrically due to stiff stitching from the lateral corner. I started tapping gently on the corner from the 3rd week and saw slight improvement - right eye is opening up - and I still use a warm pack occassionally n tapping it as much as I can (but gently ok).

I must say that your post-op stay in Seoul was way too rushed. I had partial stitches removed on the 7th day until the 10th and 12th. Send your concern to the surgeon via your consultant to seek advice.

In all, pressuring a patient to commit the surgery cos "there's a free slot in the surgeon's schedule tomorrow" is a BIG NO NO. An hr on the surgeon's calendar does not equate adequacy for your 2-hr surgery - thus the abrupt and brutal operation. I observed their malpractise through my experience so advising ppl not to be stacked in between patients. A morning appointment is also better than an afternoon one.

Please remember: "Patience is a virtue". A rushed operation always ends in regret. Give yourself ample time to rationalise your decision. Its your face n $ afterall.

* I am still praying for a positive result... :)

Hey Eightbelow, I guess we are all in the same boat... All we can do now is pray for a positive result and be diligent with our own aftercare, by eating the right food, doing cold and warm compresses if it still helps. I understand how u feel about going with the choice of doc that Sha**77 has recommended becoz I was also listing Bk as my one of my choices as well until another forumer told me to give it another thought. It must have been hard to only know the truth after the surgery. Dun dispair, I believe the surgeon's skill aren't that bad, only thing is they are always way overpriced for their services.

I agree with you my stay in Seoul was way too rushed, as even if I do opt to stay longer, it would have been their holiday break for their mid-autumn festival. So in fact I will be lengthening my stay for an additional 1 week with no potential benefit of seeing the doc or nurses for aftercare nor be able to remove my stitches in time before they closed their clinic for holiday. So which explain why I only stayed for a week, just sufficient time to be able to remove stitches. I guess this is a lesson learnt, to better plan for a surgery trip way beforehand so that I can anticipate and accommodate any changes during the stay in Korea. I had planned 2 months in advance but not in detail, until the last one week or so before the trip.

Let's hang on and pray our recovery will reveal some good results yah!!!
 
Sounds great Apple:) where r u coming from? And do u speak Korean &#65311;

Unfortunately, my Korean is quite limited. I'm actually leaving from Canada, by the way would you happen to have kakaotalk haha

Hey guys,

I am not sure how regular I will be here, though I am pretty active during this period. But when things start to pick up..I might hv lesser time here. So, the last bit of general stuff to share:

Where to eat post surgery (for cheekbone reduction) near Sinsa area:-
1. A little eatery besides pet shop (near Highland hotel) has one of the best Udon noodles and its reasonably priced.

2. Fresh Burger - Where all the PS clinics are on the main road, the outlet is in the small street. If you walk around that area during the healing period, you might find it. Request for the burger without cheese. The minced beef is very fresh and soft enuff to chew. The bun is soft, fluffy and fragrant.

3. Pho (Vietnamese noodles) in any pho shop but can pass the bean sprout. Try to ask them to cut the beef slice into smaller pieces.

4. Tofu house (behind starbuck) - Should be between BK and Young Dong Hotel. Can request for non-spicy kind and pass the pork (can't chew)

5. Instant porridge (fm convenient store. C U near BK is the best for varieties and they could help you heat and pack if you are not sure)stand

I was told not to take beef so I took a little and alternate with others. :p

When I was better, I started venturing to different places for food.

I am not saleswoman of papaya enzyme. :cool:
But I just found that papaya enzyme could effectively tenderize meat. Maybe some of you already know using papain? I have been very careful when meat is concerned coz I do not want to aggravate the healing of cheekbone. Still could not take grilled meat or anything bigger than my mouth could open. TIll date, only could insert 2 fingers.
I was craving for Japanese sliced pork and tried marinate with the usual soy sauce, mirin, sake, pepper + half tsp of Papaya enzyme, it is really tasty and tender. I could effortlessly eat it. Tired of eating minced meat...

Wow thank you so much for writing that detailed post about what to eat, it's very helpful to a lot of people (and me) who are going to Korea for Ps in the future! :D
 
I am still keeping you in my thoughts and hoping for the best results! <3 <3 <3
I hope you are holding up well! :)

Wassup KK:)

Appreciate your kind thoughts.

I am progressing from a male avatar (if u rem how they look [yucks!]) to a female avatar now... Some of my friends said I look .... kinda good while some said:"u look weird"....

Anyway, other than my right eye squints and my nose is swollen, I can say my profile looks way much better than what I used to be. I can only pray that my ROI yields me a 100% satisfaction :smile1:
 
Thanks, NYCAngel..:smile1:

I am not sure how long it last..but it is still there as much as I want to get rid of some. Before u go for it, ask the doctor if it will make yr face stiff for a while, or how long? If u hv to meet people often, u might not like a visible change in yr face coz pple cld tell u did something. Forehead fat graft would be good though. If u dun like it, u cld use yr fringe to cover up.

Oh, n if u want it to last, I was told to go for 2nd grafting. Planning to go in march which hopefully till then, my facial swelling will subside completely n a better candidate for it. I sure will ask dr this time if I shld be expecting stiff facial expression, n if the answer is yes, I will just for for forehead only.

Thanks Emisa! Hmmm fat graft sounds very tempting... maybe I will get it done then try to go for a 2nd fat graft 6 months later... I'll see how it goes in the consultations. I think I'm gonna plan on coming in March too being that it's not during peak season. If I could meet up with you guys that would be awesome! Please let me know :smile1:
 
You will wake up, and not to worry all the doctors are very professional. But be prepared for the GA. I had mine done two weeks ago and I honestly thought I was going to just fall asleep, wake up and it was done. Nope. My mind was fully awake - the first half I went on some drug rollercoaster but couldn't feel my body, though my mind was 100% alert, and the second half I was fully awake and could feel my body - but obviously not the pain during the rhinoplasty surgery.. Wasn't the most pleasant hearing the surgeon using the machine to grind and rasp my nasal bone! I don't mean to scare you, but it was a little traumatising for me (but to which I have no regrets undergoing the surgery!) It wasn't the surgeons fault either but just different people react differently. So just be prepared that you might be awake throughout some of the surgery, or you might wake up and then fall back asleep, or sleep the entire time. I do still think that it was worth it.
Wow, that's quite scarey! You are conscious and hearing everything?! How long were you conscious for?
 
Yes, you can bargain with the consultants. Actually, each clinic usually quoted us similar price at the first time. What I did was I chose 3 best clinics due to researching and regarding many information which are Grand, BK, Wonjin. My favorite one was Grand. This is the place where I wanted to have a surgery the most. So, I held an appointment with BK and Wonjin first and Grand for the last. When I had a consulting with Grand I already had price that BK and Wonjin quoted me. When the consultant finalized the price after the consulting with the doctor, I told them the price what BK and Wonjin quoted me. Knowing the general price before you’re heading to your preferred clinic really helps for bargaining. So, I could have a surgery with grand where I really wanted at first and they didn’t let me down! :tup:
Helloj,

Thank you for the information. That really helps. Bargaining at a hospital, who would have known! Do they try to skimp out on other things if they give you a cheaper rate? For example, using a different type of anesthesia or cheaper material for implants or something?
 
Hey cocomadness:),
Yup I agree. Some of their work looks amazing and they hav also done dome good job on some Korean celebrities. I quite intested in Grand and regen actually . I am thinking have face contouring(fat grafting) and my lips done! I've never happy with them :(cause I have such small lips and the corner of lips are drooping . I am considering a mouth corner lift here in Australia however not much info available .plus myself is a cosmetic nurse I haven't seen anyone had them done. Any one has any suggestions ? I am planning going for a consultation march or Apr next year. Anyone with me?;)
Reneesyd,

I am just afraid that becuase they seem to be so popular, they will not take the appropriate amount of time to do a "foreigner's" procedure. I mean if a celebrity's face is on the line, I am assuming, they would take a great deal of time and effort... I am just not sure if they will with mine as well... I just hope they're not so busy and flocked with patients that they rush through procedures.... =S

I have never heard of lip procedures other than injections to make them look more "plump." Actually... I recall my friend telling me about getting a little bit of liposuction around the corners of her mouth becuase she thought it made her look "puffy." Apparently, it didn't help much... She got it done in the U.S. However, I am not sure about turning the corners of your mouth up. Let me know more infomormation if you found out ^^
 
First rules of bargaining is not to hire any translator. Go there with your friends or go alone, don't show them you are rich lol. After they quote you, ask how much lower they can go. After they give you the final price you tell them your own budget. Vline normally is freaking expensive, but that only applies to foreigners normally. Go to your favourite clinic last and tell them the best price the other clinics gave you. Hope it helps.
Angel82,

Thank you for your suggestions. That sounds great! I am going to try that. VERY excited!!!! =)
 
Hi, I found this clinic as my Korean friend suggest me :). He said there heapppps of surgery clinic in Korea, but in his mind, this clinic is really great

Here's my 2 months picture. I just take it today

and still thinking about cheek reduction. ummmmm can't decide now ae:D
Minniemintmint,

WOW!!!! Your nose looks excellent!!!!!!!! I am speechless... Which clinic did you go to and how much was the procedure? Did you get anything else done?? =)

Thanks in advance for sharing!
 
hi i saw this at cozycot
i guess i know which clinic it is
cause there are just a few who use
rib cartillage beware...

this on page 293



by ???

Hello cafe members "bow" ^^

With a natural, slight augmentation of my nose in mind, I had surgery on March of 2009 from *** plastic surgery clinic near the #3 exit at Ap-gu-jong.

Please don't be fooled by the grand advertisements... The pictures are solely for the purpose of luring in customers. If you get fooled by these advertisements, like me, you'll cross a lake that you won't be able to return from... I was deceived by this clinic and ???
I spent almost 10,000,000 won and used a rib cartilage to undergo a major surgery and ruined my life with a single decision.

With the large price tag came the guarantee that my nose will be safe until the day I die. At this clinic, they even used my septal cartilage to perform an aggressive and unconventional surgery. ??? There are at least 10 people that I know who had failed surgeries from this clinic. It's a sad reality that this doctor, without any conscience, uses hyped up advertisements and is still in business.

Rib cartilage... when a person touches my nose tip, they are terrified at how hard it is. Before the surgery, they don't say a word about how hard your nose will become... At clinic X (i guess she consulted other clinics after her failed nose job), they tell me that if I bump my current nose, "snap!" it's going to break so I must be careful... Also, because the doctor (from ***) took out my nasal cartilage as well as the cartilage that maintains the nostrils, if i remove all the rib cartilage, my nose "will collapse" like boong-uh-ppang ( a flat korean pastry). And i heard this from a nurse after the surgery. Before the surgery, when I was already in my hospital gown, they said that they may or may not use a k-wire and vaguely handed me the consent form. At the end, they used a K-wire on me.

As a former patient of this clinic, unlike what the clinic says, the surgery was a major one and due to its aggressive and unconventional nature, caused proportionally huge problems for me. Since the doctor alters the very foundation of the nose and I don't know if he is unable to do a revision but he finds blame in the patient and is very unreasonable ?? (when she asked for a revision, i think...). Doctors from other clinics refuse to do revision on this doctor's work and they advise that I go back constantly to the clinic and make sure that the structure of my nose remains stable throughout the years. Also, doctors from other clinics have told me that I could've gotten the projection I wanted without using rib cartilage. Surgery from this clinic is not easy but a revison is much much more difficult. The nose I had previously, with a foreign implant and ear cartilage, was more of a human nose, more aesthetically pleasing nose, and a safe nose. I was having a hard time after the surgery and all they tell me are excuses and I couldn't even post any complaints on the clinic's homepage.

I tired to make an appointment at the clinic, but they won't schedule me one and they say they'll call me back but never do. I tried to go see the doctor but they give me excuses and prevent me from seeing him. Then several clinic staffs gang up on me and treat me like a mental patient, saying that I am hyper sensitive and overly stressed and make me out to be the strange one. The doctor nor the general manager is in sight and all the nurses can say is "I"m sorry". They contact the police and tell them the the doctor was assaulted by a woman and has bruises when he wasn't even hit. That's the kind of place this hospital is.

When I tell them my complaints about my nose, they become mute... Also, when it gets cold, my nose turns extremely blue and red and my nose (starting from 2/3rd of my nose bridge to the tip) feels like it's going to fall off. In fact, it gets so painful that when I go outside, I have to use a facial mask and even then a facial mask is not enough and I have to use a scarf to raise the temperature of my nose so that I can withstand the pain. At home, I have to cover my nose with a blanket to keep it warm and I told the clinic about how much pain I was in and they didn't even give me an explanation of whether the nose will go back to it's original state or not. Instead they simply reply, without considering how important a surgery that deals with a person's face is, without a conscience or remorse, "we'll just take it (rib cartilage) out then..."
I guess blinded by money, they are unable to see that I am a living person. Their nonchalant attitude towards ruining a person's life and shifting the blame should be punished. They made me wait a year and after a year I had the same complaints. And when I tell them my complaints, I see the attitude of the the doctor and the general manager change completely before my eyes (I trusted them genuinely before the surgery) and I feel like I was conned into having surgery and I feel very displeased.

At this clinic, you need to record the consultation... I wish you don't have to go through my hardship and that you choose a right clinic. Other places that use rib cartilage can complete the surgery in about 3 hours and 30 minutes... this place estimated around 6 hours for the surgery. However, the actual surgery was over 10 hours, almost twice as long as the estimated time. My instincts tell me that the doctor performed another surgery at the same time, on the same day. When I was done with my surgery and was in the recovery room, another patient had just finished her surgery and was moved into the recovery room as well... Because the surgery lasted so much longer than the estimated time, my guardian was so stressed out waiting for me that she had to take two chung-shim-won (korean medicine for stress & shock). A few months after, their excuse for the long surgery was that the I was still sedated from the anaesthesia and was sleeping it off in the recovery room...

Isn't it murder ??? that a clinic like this is still making money and is still in business?
They perform surgery on many many people and when they see victim after victim, I don't understand how they do not feel any remorse...

They tell the patients to wait, and the patients innocently trust and wait, and meanwhile the families of the patient has to watch them suffer and be overwhelmed with stress... I guess they don't care about that. They will eventually get what they deserve, for exchanging people's lives for money.

Please be careful and be even more careful.

A doctor with skill and character does not perform "aggressive", "complicated", "long" procedures unless it is vital. Please remember this and remember it again. For me, the life I had planned was ruined in a moment. Please select a surgeon who has both skills and character so you don't have to cross this lake that you cannot come back from... (crying face).
I write this with hopes that you don't have to go through what I did...

With a clinic like this, all those who want to become more attractive, your dreams will burst like bubbles. A clinic like this must be closed as soon as possible. Without the skills to back it up, they claim that they are the best and that there will be no problems, They have no conscience and a doctor like this should not be allowed to practice. I believe that this clinic will go out of business if you, cafe members, treat my post seriously. They will close the clinic and they will regret their actions.

If you're scheduled for surgery soon, please think it through carefully over and over again. I genuinely thank you for reading my post with interest.

^^ (bow)
Angel906,

Wow, that's so scarey! Would you be able to share which hospital it is? Perhaps by pointing us to it discretely? E-mail or something? I did hear that Korea does not have any malpractice laws.... It's quite frightening... Even though it might be a rare case.... ???
 
CocomoMadness said:
Babyrose12,

I just read that you were coming from Japan^^ I just wanted to know, aren't there a lot of great surgeons there too? I heard that plastic surgery is pretty big there too~ ???

Cocomo u're right, it's pretty big here, it's still hush hush, but Now adays I see more people with a nose job on the train or eyes done... What I've noticed, they opt for less invasive and quick surgeries. ( e.g using threads for lifting, eyes or nose surgeries )
If u wanna know where to check to compare, these are some of the famous ps clinic in tokyo
Takasu clinic
http://www.takasu.co.jp/mobile/

Shinagawa biyougekka
http://www.shinagawa.com/

Isea
http://www.tokyoisea.com/

Otsuka
http://www.otsuka-biyo.co.jp/sp/

If u like a really subtle change, I think Tokyo is the place, surgeons are really into details and natural look

But Seoul, people flocking around their clinics for invasive surgeries, it's not a taboo thing, by the numberI suppose the surgeons there got more experiences...

Sorry my English is rusty~~~

Hope it helps
 
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