Authenticate This DOONEY & BOURKE

Please post authenticity questions related to DOONEY & BOURKE in this thread.

Note: The PurseForum requests that only members with extensive knowledge of the brand and authenticating who have over 500 posts participate as authenticators in this AT thread. The moderators reserve the right to remove authentications that do not meet these requirements.

Please follow the following rules:

Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated. This is not a thread to ask general questions about DOONEY & BOURKE; please refer to our Handbags & Purses forum for such information.

This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:

Item:
Listing number:
Seller:
Link:
Comments:
If the bag in question is not on an auction site, please use the following:

Item Name (if you know it):
Link (if available):
Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.)

  • Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format.
  • Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted.
  • Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication. Any and all such requests should be posted in this thread.

Should one of your items be questioned in this thread, you are welcome to provide additional pictures or materials supporting its authenticity.

Do not handle your disputes with other members in this thread but take your differences to Private Messages. Failure to do so can result in banning.

Please utilize the "Quote" feature when responding directly to another post.

Disclaimer

All Authenticate This threads on tPF are meant to provide assistance to shoppers who are uncertain about the legitimacy and authenticity of designer goods. The evaluations posted by tPF's members are only opinions that stem from personal experiences as shoppers and collectors. They are not legally binding or professional authentications and should not be treated as such.

For questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact the forum administration via the forum's contact form.
 
My concern has to do with ebay and its lopsided habit of favoring buyers. If you refuse the return and ebay finds in the buyer's favor, you risk losing the case AND the bags. (Ebay will assume that your refusal to accept a return means you don't want the bags back.)

My suggestion would be to refer the buyer here, assure her of authenticity but let her know that even though authentic, you don't want her to be unhappy so as a goodwill gesture, you'll accept the return.

And PLEASE post that buyer's ID for others who sell Dooney to be able to block her.

ETA: Oh, and BTW, those bags and vintage wallet are certainly leather! They were made prior to Dooney even making its IT collection or other fabric or PVC-coated items.
 
Well, I am very stubborn and did not want to lose the $30 in shipping charges back and forth (it was about $17 to send) so I
would not just make her the offer to return them if she was not happy. Besides it was such a blatant abuse of the system that
it really rubbed me wrong.
I called ebay they assured me that I would be treated fairly, suggested I post all the links to the "horsekeeping" website that specializes in D&B , with references to all the original styles that I had sold, compared the details etc.
In addition I sent the link to your authentication.
Of course all of this went FIRST to the buyer herself - which was met with annoyance and the flat out refusal to consider any evidence.
So I finally escalated the case to ebay. Within one hour I lost the case.
I called them and got nowhere, even spoke to a supervisor.
I flat out asked the supervisor what I could have done...ANYTHING....to win this case and they had no answer for me.
SO I asked " Are you saying that anytime someone claims something is inauthentic they will win the case,
no matter what?" She refused to answer me directly, but the meaning was clear.
The buyer's user ID is "katie.rojas"
By the way, she is also a racist, unless you can figure out some other reason for this message from her when I first offered
to send her photos for comparison, etc.

New message from: katie.rojas (7)
I don t need to receive any of your pictures. You have until the 20th of April to make your decision, if you haven t made one by then or one that refunds me my money I can report to eBay directly. Thanks have a great morning in Africa.

What is THAT supposed to mean???
 
Well, I am very stubborn and did not want to lose the $30 in shipping charges back and forth (it was about $17 to send) so I
would not just make her the offer to return them if she was not happy. Besides it was such a blatant abuse of the system that
it really rubbed me wrong.
I called ebay they assured me that I would be treated fairly, suggested I post all the links to the "horsekeeping" website that specializes in D&B , with references to all the original styles that I had sold, compared the details etc.
In addition I sent the link to your authentication.
Of course all of this went FIRST to the buyer herself - which was met with annoyance and the flat out refusal to consider any evidence.
So I finally escalated the case to ebay. Within one hour I lost the case.
I called them and got nowhere, even spoke to a supervisor.
I flat out asked the supervisor what I could have done...ANYTHING....to win this case and they had no answer for me.
SO I asked " Are you saying that anytime someone claims something is inauthentic they will win the case,
no matter what?" She refused to answer me directly, but the meaning was clear.
The buyer's user ID is "katie.rojas"
By the way, she is also a racist, unless you can figure out some other reason for this message from her when I first offered
to send her photos for comparison, etc.

New message from: katie.rojas (7)
I don t need to receive any of your pictures. You have until the 20th of April to make your decision, if you haven t made one by then or one that refunds me my money I can report to eBay directly. Thanks have a great morning in Africa.

What is THAT supposed to mean???
Thank you. I'm sure any Dooney sellers reading here will block katie.rojas. And I agree that her comment does indicate racism. If the message is through ebay's messaging system, I would report that buyer and message.

Regarding the ebay rep assuring you about treating you fairly, I could have forewarned you that they're known for telling callers what they want to hear just to get them off the line.
 
Thank you. I'm sure any Dooney sellers reading here will block katie.rojas. And I agree that her comment does indicate racism. If the message is through ebay's messaging system, I would report that buyer and message.

Regarding the ebay rep assuring you about treating you fairly, I could have forewarned you that they're known for telling callers what they want to hear just to get them off the line.

Had she not assured me, especially if I could show pics and an authentication,
I would not have escalated the case.
Another lesson learned with ebay.
 
  • Like
Reactions: faithbw

I don't see any problems with it. The red white and blue tag and the black Made in China label are visible inside on the side seam below the dog leash clip ribbon. Did you win the auction? If so, please post a picture of the front and back of the red white and blue tag to confirm that it's authentic.
Screen Shot 2017-04-28 at 6.07.12 PM.png
 
  • Like
Reactions: faithbw
I don't see any problems with it. The red white and blue tag and the black Made in China label are visible inside on the side seam below the dog leash clip ribbon. Did you win the auction? If so, please post a picture of the front and back of the red white and blue tag to confirm that it's authentic.




Thanks for replies. I decided not to bid this time but I'll look more closely at the photos next time.
 
This is an eBay auction, a vintage bag. Would anyone please be able to check it out? My mother would love it. Thanks!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112385940941

Sorry, it's fake.

Wow, thank you SO MUCH for saving me from that!!
^^^^ Seller ID of the fake: socialflutterby15

Hello dooney ladies. Hoping to get your opinion about this one. No duck patch, green label, canvas. It's got me scratching my head!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/332204508508

(Not my listing)
I believe that's a very early authentic Dooney.

The green label and old style fob are from the early 1980s. (According to Horsekeeping, it's from 1983-84.)