Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[JOODLZ]

Genuine

Thanks, Hyacinth...did you notice it's red...lol...I'm a sucker for red

 

[Hyacinth]

Thanks, Hyacinth...did you notice it's red...lol...I'm a sucker for red

That makes two of us - red or purple for me.

 

[mellopan]

Item name: VINTAGE BLACK COACH BAG ...
Item number: 231712676620
Seller: poodlebooka
Link: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231712676620&alt=web

This looks like an authentic Broadway satchel to me, just want to confirm with an authenticator here. Thank you!!

 

[casseyelsie]

All are authentic. #1 is vintage. It was made around 1992-1993. The second one was made in 1997 so it isn't vintage. It is a large briefcase-type bag. The third one is an Italian Madison Gracie made in 1996. It is a small bag.

Whateve, thanks a lot! I bought #1 n #3. Considering #2, will buy if I really can't find in other color [emoji7]

 

[yellowjello]

Please authenticate. Thank you in advance.

1) Vintage Coach Black Leather Purse w/Turnkey Latch
Goodwill of the Great Plains - Sioux Falls, South Dakota
24615595
link

2) Brown Vintage Coach Backpack & Wristlet
Goodwill of Western Missouri & Eastern Kansas
24614527
link

3) Vintage COACH Red Leather Classic Framed 9996 Shoulder Hipster Bag Purse
hannahbscloset
121774037801
link

 

[whateve]

Item name: VINTAGE BLACK COACH BAG ...
Item number: 231712676620
Seller: poodlebooka
Link: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231712676620&alt=web

This looks like an authentic Broadway satchel to me, just want to confirm with an authenticator here. Thank you!!

Looks good.

Whateve, thanks a lot! I bought #1 n #3. Considering #2, will buy if I really can't find in other color [emoji7]

You're welcome! You got some nice bags!

 

[whateve]

Please authenticate. Thank you in advance.

1) Vintage Coach Black Leather Purse w/Turnkey Latch
Goodwill of the Great Plains - Sioux Falls, South Dakota
24615595
link

2) Brown Vintage Coach Backpack & Wristlet
Goodwill of Western Missouri & Eastern Kansas
24614527
link

3) Vintage COACH Red Leather Classic Framed 9996 Shoulder Hipster Bag Purse
hannahbscloset
121774037801
link

1 and 3 are authentic. My eyes aren't good enough to see the pictures in #2 clearly.

 

[yellowjello]

1 and 3 are authentic. My eyes aren't good enough to see the pictures in #2 clearly.

Thank you whateve!

 

[moreau_md]

Hi, all! Still exploring options for a work bag.. I've heard that Baxters are surprisingly roomy - not sure if that goes for the vintage Madison satchels as well?

Item: Rare Vintage Coach Speedy Doctor Madison Satchel Purse Bag w Strap
Listing number: 191695429419
Seller: nobluz04
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191695429419
Comments: Does anyone have experience cleaning handles that have been darkened due to use? Let me know if that is better posted in the Rehab and Rescue thread.

Item: Rare Vintage Distressed COACH Madison Speedy Handbag Satchel 8951 Cognac
Listing number: 252083982302
Seller: mart5205
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252083982302
Comments: N/A

Item: VINTAGE COACH-MADISON SATCHEL BAG-REHABBED!CLEAN! MADE IN USA Black&Tan Leather
Listing number: 231664960967
Seller: 2bluethumbs
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231664960967
Comments: N/A

Item: Authentic Coach Baxter Speedy Bag, Restored
Listing number: 291561514927
Seller: aevrtlinda
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291561514927
Comments: N/A

Thanks in advance! For those of you just starting your day, hope it goes great!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi, all! Still exploring options for a work bag.. I've heard that Baxters are surprisingly roomy - not sure if that goes for the vintage Madison satchels as well?

Item: Rare Vintage Coach Speedy Doctor Madison Satchel Purse Bag w Strap
Listing number: 191695429419
Seller: nobluz04
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191695429419
Comments: Does anyone have experience cleaning handles that have been darkened due to use? Let me know if that is better posted in the Rehab and Rescue thread.

Item: Rare Vintage Distressed COACH Madison Speedy Handbag Satchel 8951 Cognac
Listing number: 252083982302
Seller: mart5205
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252083982302
Comments: N/A

Item: VINTAGE COACH-MADISON SATCHEL BAG-REHABBED!CLEAN! MADE IN USA Black&Tan Leather
Listing number: 231664960967
Seller: 2bluethumbs
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231664960967
Comments: N/A

Item: Authentic Coach Baxter Speedy Bag, Restored
Listing number: 291561514927
Seller: aevrtlinda
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291561514927
Comments: N/A

Thanks in advance! For those of you just starting your day, hope it goes great!

All of them are genuine. None of them were EVER called Speedys - Coach never used that name, and I don't think they used the term Doctor Bag officially either. The first is probably from 1990, the second and third from between 1988 and 1990, and the Baxter was made in 1992 or 1993.

You can wait for Whateve to answer your question about cleaning the handles, although I'm sure that if you search for the subject in the Rehab & Rescue thread there should be quite a few posts on the subject.

As for roominess, I've never owned both for comparison. They're almost the same dimensions but the extended top opening on the Baxter could make a big difference in how roomy the bag actually feels, just because it's much easier to get things in and out.

 

[TBL2]

Ladies..Would you be so kind as to take a look at this bag? Comparing it to other bags of same era it appears to be identical. The only thing that I find a bit worrisome is the creed stamp. I realize many bags made in Italy did not have numbers but I was wondering about the time frame for this bag . All the others I found had a made in China stamp & was quite different from this one. I just found it odd this one would be made in Italy. Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks as always!
Seller: wchris2013
Style Business/messanger bag
eBay link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Leath...9VP%2BXK%2FEm5v0YF7fQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[BeenBurned]

Ladies..Would you be so kind as to take a look at this bag? Comparing it to other bags of same era it appears to be identical. The only thing that I find a bit worrisome is the creed stamp. I realize many bags made in Italy did not have numbers but I was wondering about the time frame for this bag . All the others I found had a made in China stamp & was quite different from this one. I just found it odd this one would be made in Italy. Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks as always!
Seller: wchris2013
Style Business/messanger bag
eBay link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Leath...9VP%2BXK%2FEm5v0YF7fQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I'm not comfortable recommending that bag. A bag that size and style should have a serial number on the creed. (And although there are some strange texture marks, it doesn't appear that there ever was a serial number. Additionally, the stamping within the creed seems uncentered and too far down from the top row of stitching.
ETA: Please do NOT report.

Please wait for other opinions on this one!

ETA again: I just realized that the listing has ended. If you are the winner and haven't paid for it, I recommend holding off until you get more responses.

 

[TBL2]

I'm not comfortable recommending that bag. A bag that size and style should have a serial number on the creed. (And although there are some strange texture marks, it doesn't appear that there ever was a serial number. Additionally, the stamping within the creed seems uncentered and too far down from the top row of stitching.
ETA: Please do NOT report.

Please wait for other opinions on this one!

ETA again: I just realized that the listing has ended. If you are the winner and haven't paid for it, I recommend holding off until you get more responses.

Thanks BB..I will pass that message along to my daughetr. She just saw a good work bag but, bargain or not..it was advertised as Coach so that is what she should receive. No, not paid for yet. Awaiting other opinions, but I agree fully with you.

 

[BeenBurned]

Ladies..Would you be so kind as to take a look at this bag? Comparing it to other bags of same era it appears to be identical. The only thing that I find a bit worrisome is the creed stamp. I realize many bags made in Italy did not have numbers but I was wondering about the time frame for this bag . All the others I found had a made in China stamp & was quite different from this one. I just found it odd this one would be made in Italy. Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks as always!
Seller: wchris2013
Style Business/messanger bag
eBay link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Leath...9VP%2BXK%2FEm5v0YF7fQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I'm not comfortable recommending that bag. A bag that size and style should have a serial number on the creed. (And although there are some strange texture marks, it doesn't appear that there ever was a serial number. Additionally, the stamping within the creed seems uncentered and too far down from the top row of stitching.
ETA: Please do NOT report.

Please wait for other opinions on this one!

ETA again: I just realized that the listing has ended. If you are the winner and haven't paid for it, I recommend holding off until you get more responses.

Note that there have been some very close fakes of the 65th anniversary bags. In fact, somewhere else (I'm too lazy to find the link), I posted detailed pictures showing side-by-side pictures of fake 10341 bags vs. authentic.

Here are a few more comps of the listing in question from wchris2013 vs. some authentic bags.

Note that I can't find a listing for an authentic bag with a single strap (attached at the sides) that has the (for lack of a better word) over-the-top strap.

Although the comps are for slightly different styles (since I can't find the same one), the pictures show the lack of detailing on the pockets and on the strap of wchris2013's bag vs. other authentic bags.

Again, I do hope others can chime in.

 

[Hyacinth]

I'm not comfortable recommending that bag. A bag that size and style should have a serial number on the creed. (And although there are some strange texture marks, it doesn't appear that there ever was a serial number. Additionally, the stamping within the creed seems uncentered and too far down from the top row of stitching.
ETA: Please do NOT report.

Please wait for other opinions on this one!

ETA again: I just realized that the listing has ended. If you are the winner and haven't paid for it, I recommend holding off until you get more responses.

There's nothing that helps us prove that it's genuine except for the fact that there doesn't seem to be anything other than the creed stamp that proves it's fake either. There's always a chance that the plant simply made a mistake. And it's more likely that the Italian plant would have let a mistake like that through than it would have been for one of the US plants to do so.

Take it from someone who's both sold AND owned a ton of Italian cars, the plants screwed up a lot and weird problems slipped through. That's why mechanics who specialized in Italian cars were never short of work. I probably helped send at least a half-dozen of their kids through college.

ETA - Replying to BB's post above - Good points. There were other styles that were made a few years before the 65th Anniversary bags but I haven't found any yet with those same pocket details. I'm still just going to call it Questionable. I seem to remember having other similar styles come up for questioning back then but I can't remember what we decided.

There's no way I'd take a chance and buy it though.