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LOTS of problems there. The font used for the serial number is much too thick, the "H" is the wrong size, the strap grommets look like silver rather than brass, and the entire style is completely wrong, style 4161 is a Soho Zip Hobo with a different strap, buckle, and no outside pockets. The REAL 4161 is shown below.

Any time you see that thick font with a J8H- prefix it's almost certainly fake.
Thanks Hyacinth. Thought it was off. Have reported.
 
Just wondering if this creed on a Legacy Zip looks OK, please? I think the plant code is 'Z' but creed says made in US.
It's very hard to use tpf with the current problems. From what I can see of the photo, there appears to be a frame where the number was stamped, and as you know, a Z would be only used for the Dominican Republic. I would suspect there are other problems with the bag. A 1995 creed is too early for this style since it wasn't introduced until Spring 1997.
 
It's very hard to use tpf with the current problems. From what I can see of the photo, there appears to be a frame where the number was stamped, and as you know, a Z would be only used for the Dominican Republic. I would suspect there are other problems with the bag. A 1995 creed is too early for this style since it wasn't introduced until Spring 1997.

Like Whateve said, the Z plant code isn't valid for either the USA or for 1995. Definitely fake.

Is it listed at some site where we can report it?
Yup, here it is

Item:Vintage navy Coach bag
Item no:281443511796
Seller:zagg1866.mp2jnnoec2
Link:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281443511796?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Comment: Seller sent me creed shot. Grommets look silver.
 
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Just wondering if this creed on a Legacy Zip looks OK, please? I think the plant code is 'Z' but creed says made in US.

It's very hard to use tpf with the current problems. From what I can see of the photo, there appears to be a frame where the number was stamped, and as you know, a Z would be only used for the Dominican Republic. I would suspect there are other problems with the bag. A 1995 creed is too early for this style since it wasn't introduced until Spring 1997.

Like Whateve said, the Z plant code isn't valid for either the USA or for 1995. Definitely fake.

Is it listed at some site where we can report it?

Yup, here it is

Item:Vintage navy Coach bag
Item no:281443511796
Seller:zagg1866.mp2jnnoec2
Link:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281443511796?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Comment: Seller sent me creed shot. Grommets look silver.
It was removed but has been relisted:

seller zagg1866.mp2jnnoec2

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Navy-...498?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item41874fbe72
 
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