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Nutmegz said:
I have one more question about a bag I asked you guys to authenticate a few days ago. The consensus was that it is authentic, but when I google the bag style number, a totally different looking purse shows up. I know the bag I had posted previously is probably old, and maybe the bag style has just evolved into something totally different, but i just wanted to make sure. If anything else, this is a learning opportunity for me.

When I google coach bag style "9826" this type of bag shows up:

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This is what the bag I am looking at looks like (I posted about it a few days ago), and it is also "9826".

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The style number is NOT 9826 because it was made before 1994.

Please read the Salearea Guides on Creeds and Serial Numbers carefully before trying to use any kind of serial number for authentication.

http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea?uqt=g
 
#9,137
Nutmegz said:
Happy New Year everyone! Could I make use of your authentication expertise once again? I am interested in purchasing this bag to restore. Can you tell me if it is authentic?

No measurements were provided in the online listing, but here is a link to the store. The item has been reserved for me and can be found here:

https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/174215230/vintage-coach-cross-body-classic-black
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whateve said:
If it were me, I wouldn't take a chance on it. I've never seen an authentic bag with a month code error that egregious. I think the shape of the flap might be off a little as well, and possibly the location of the turnlock.
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The most recent photo I have of a bag that I'm sure was made in the C plant is from 2 years earlier, and there are differences in both the creed stamp especially the word spacing and also in the serial number stamp. Picture below.

None of the hardware on that bag looks exactly right - the size, shape and color all seem very slightly "off". I wouldn't buy it either. The messed-up serial number is one problem too many.
 

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#9,138
JOODLZ said:
I've discovered 2 more anchors in my collection...on lobster-claws. On the IMPERFECT Convertible Clutch (NYC) a few posts ago. And on a Small Swinger (USA). I would never think to look on the inside of those clasps!

HAPPY NEW YEAR to EVERYONE!
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Ooh that's interesting. I've checked all my NYC and USA bags and none of them have the anchor other than the basic bag with the glued in serial number. At least I have one! I guess it could have been like the zippers -- they used several brands.
 
#9,139
My best friend gave me two bags that she bought from her neighbor. Can someone tell me if they are real? I have only bought new bags from the store, and would be embarrassed to carry a fake. Thank you.



First one is D1969-F13533
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#9,142
whateve said:
You can't google a style number for a bag that was made before 1994. Your bag has a unique serial number - the digits don't mean anything. If it had a style number, there would be a month code, which is always a letter, in the first digit. Your bag looks like an authentic compartment bag.
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Thanks again. That bag was one I had not yet purchased, but I went ahead and placed the order to add it to my collection!!! :) I so appreciate everyone's help.
 
#9,143
whateve said:
If it were me, I wouldn't take a chance on it. I've never seen an authentic bag with a month code error that egregious. I think the shape of the flap might be off a little as well, and possibly the location of the turnlock.
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Thank you. I passed on the bag and will continue to keep an eye out for an authentic, vintage, black, Court and Willis handbag. :)
 
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Hyacinth said:
The most recent photo I have of a bag that I'm sure was made in the C plant is from 2 years earlier, and there are differences in both the creed stamp especially the word spacing and also in the serial number stamp. Picture below.

None of the hardware on that bag looks exactly right - the size, shape and color all seem very slightly "off". I wouldn't buy it either. The messed-up serial number is one problem too many.
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I don't have any C plant creeds in my files that are from any later than 2000 either. I wonder if the plant was still in use in 2002.
 
#9,146
thebaglady5 said:
My best friend gave me two bags that she bought from her neighbor. Can someone tell me if they are real? I have only bought new bags from the store, and would be embarrassed to carry a fake. Thank you.



First one is D1969-F13533
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This one definitely seems fake. The shape of the Cs is wrong and the pattern looks crooked. To be sure, please post clear large photos of the creed patches including the serial numbers from BOTH bags. The information and type of photos we need are explained in the first post in this thread. The serial number for this one as you copied it doesn't make any sense - we ALWAYS need to see photos. While a single photo can be enough to prove a Coach is fake, it's never enough to prove it's genuine.
 
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Hyacinth said:
The most recent photo I have of a bag that I'm sure was made in the C plant is from 2 years earlier, and there are differences in both the creed stamp especially the word spacing and also in the serial number stamp. Picture below.

None of the hardware on that bag looks exactly right - the size, shape and color all seem very slightly "off". I wouldn't buy it either. The messed-up serial number is one problem too many.
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whateve said:
You're welcome!
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There's a current listing that says the serial is M1C-9791 but there aren't any creed photos.

There's a Completed with M1C-9927 and the same serial number font and creed stamping as the questionable bag
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Authentic-Coach-Purse-Black-Leather-No-M1C-9927-With-Coach-Tags-/261324527273?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd827d6a9&nma=true&si=w0fg8R3w3OWu9EsrEh9nbvJ%252BjAs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

A Completed Backpack that only shows the top half of the creed., M1C-9960

There just aren't enough photos to say yet thay those 2001 bags are ok, and although it's a very small sample group, "M1C-" so far is the only 2001 serial prefix we've seen from that plant, and so far the bags can't be authenticated.

The 2002 date for the bag in post 9136 is really questionable, it just doesn't seem sensible that Coach would have kept an older plant open (assuming it was the original C plant that was first opened around 1990) that long and with almost nothing being produced in it when there were still at least 2 other US plants making leather bags. But of course with the invalid month code, we have no idea in what month (even if it's genuine) the bag in the original question was really made.
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-610.html#post25941035
 
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Hyacinth said:
This one definitely seems fake. The shape of the Cs is wrong and the pattern looks crooked. To be sure, please post clear large photos of the creed patches including the serial numbers from BOTH bags. The information and type of photos we need are explained in the first post in this thread. The serial number for this one as you copied it doesn't make any sense - we ALWAYS need to see photos. While a single photo can be enough to prove a Coach is fake, it's never enough to prove it's genuine.
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I typed the wrong # it is D1069-f13533...I will post pictures of the insides. Thank you so much. :)
 
#9,150
whateve said:
Ooh that's interesting. I've checked all my NYC and USA bags and none of them have the anchor other than the basic bag with the glued in serial number. At least I have one! I guess it could have been like the zippers -- they used several brands.
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Finally my basic bag with the glued-in serial number arrived. I bought it from a seller in Tunisia and it has taken exactly 2 months to get here. It has been added to my rehab project pile and, yes there are anchors on the dog leash clips, yay!
 

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