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Could I ask to get your valuable opinion on this passport case. the only reason I ask is because most of the Coach passport cases look to have wallet features. And this one does not. If it is authentic, any chance you could give me an approx. year or collection. THX so much.
Item Name: Coach Passport Holder (Case only, similar to F61494 w/o slots or wallet features).
Material: Leather
I really do appreciate everyone's input on this, so thank you all.Originally Posted by BeenBurnedI'd reported those three fakes from manalof beginning on December 19. I was bummed when I saw that they'd been sold and crossed my fingers that the buyer hadn't paid yet.
What I would do is tell the seller that you want a full refund of every cent you paid and if she already shipped, as long as you get the cleared refund, you'll agree to refuse the package and mark it return to sender. (DO NOT REFUSE if she doesn't refund first. You'll lose a case.)
If the seller doesn't give a refund, open a dispute if you're able. I'm not sure whether you can open a case yet or whether a case can be opened on removed items.
It also won't hurt to call eBay on the phone and get it on record that the items were paid for, supposedly shipped and removed and confirmed as counterfeit.
Refer the seller, manalof here if she denies that they're fake.
The fact that the seller manalof continues to lie about the source of her fake keychains tells me she hasn't learned a gosh-darn thing from this experience. It's too bad you weren't able to leave her the 3 well-deserved negative feedbacks before the listings were removed.
The "good" thing is that with 83% feedback, her days of selling are limited if she doesn't straighten up and fly right.
As for the case counting against her if she refunds, it won't count as a "lost" dispute since it'll be resolved without ebay's intervention, however, she will still have the 3 VeRO takedowns for counterfeit items on her record (permanently!) as well as a dispute recorded for having sold those fakes, so since they're (sort-of) linked, it certainly won't help her account.
If she does agree to the refund before you escalate, if she agrees with the stipulation that you return them, you do have to return them. Generally, the refund would be for the full amount of the items plus initial shipping with return shipping at your expense, though many good sellers will make the buyer whole (and reimburse return shipping). IMO, manalof isn't that type of seller since she's still denying that she sold fakes and where she bought them.
MANALOF, if you're reading here, the smarter thing for you to do is issue a full refund to your buyer and tell her to destroy the fakes. Why would either of you want to waste the money to return them to the seller when they can't be relisted or resold?
Zuggy, if the seller insists on a return, be sure to have tracking on the item to prove delivery.
I'm just curious, how will you resue this (products, steps in process etc.) Sounds like a lot of work and a lot of fun!! Good luck!! Post pics on R&R club when done
Item: coach signature bag NO. JMH-9059
Listing number: not sure
You're welcome and thank YOU for the compliment. Yes, I tend to be very passionate. I know we're all human and as such, can make honest mistakes, but those who are honorable do the right thing. When they don't do the right thing, I call them on it, sometimes to my own detriment.I really do appreciate everyone's input on this, so thank you all.
Been Burned, you're very obviously quite passionate about seller ethics and counterfeit goods. I do so admire your convictions. You're the kind of seller/buyer I would love to do business with.
The seller has responded that she will refund upon receiving the items back. I have responded that I'll need a pre-paid label in order to return them to her. I'll update again if/when I hear back from her.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN!!
