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Coachmomme said:
I also took a closer look at the creed, is that a bullseye I see? Would that be from the outlets, did they have factory stores that received FP deletes? And what do yo make of the sellers story about it being vintage when it is not, seller claims it s from the 50's or 60's....
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I don't think she realizes it's not vintage. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Etsy would likely not cover you for buying it and then realizing it's not vintage other than expecting you to return the bag for a refund minus the return ship costs. She *may* lower her price if you point out the bag is not vintage. That's if you use Etsy's direct checkout system. If you use Paypal - they'll do the same. You have to return unless seller agrees to selling at a partial refund. Is that what you are after?

I go back and forth on that listing as I find it pretty suspect that she could think that tag and that lining would match any purse by any maker from that era.

Maybe she has no clue, though. Lots of people don't....
 
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Can anyone tell me if this is authentic? I bought it from the bay and the pics were great. The leather does not feel " right" and the bag has no slouch. Now I notice none of my other duffles have this wording on the creed although I see other cobalt duffles that do. ( on the bay) there is something odd with the zipper too. HELP!!
 
#5,182
Hyacinth said:
It all comes down to money.

The badly made cheap fakes that have hideous patchwork patterns, vinyl trim, and a dozen glaring mistakes are made for probably the equivalent of 5 dollars US each, usually assembled by children working in inhumane conditions and treated as slave labor. Obviously the cost of labor is almost nothing, and these "Canal Street Specials" are sold openly on the internet and shipped by the hundreds of thousands to places specializing in selling cheap knock-offs like Santee Alley in CA and Canal Street in New York's Chinatown. The makers don't care if they look real because the buyers don't know or care either, they just want a $20 dollar "Coach" to impress their equally clueless friends. Lower and mid-price fakes are also sold by fronts for terrorist organizations and by street gangs who often front a storefront business selling all kinds of fakes that have supposedly "fallen off the truck".

As the prices and production costs go up, so does the accuracy of the details. The most expensive ones to make are the most accurate, and usually not sold openly on the Internet. There's a large, well-organized network of distributors who sell these "AAA fakes" as genuine for top prices. Many of them are almost impossible to tell from the real thing, that's why it costs so much to make them. These are usually sold through places like Ebay, and right now a large number of them are coming from the Philippines as well as China and Korea. The retail-level sellers know exactly what they're selling and have their own private networks of information about what does and doesn't work, who has the "best" fakes, and what details to pass on to the manufacturers to make their fakes better - unfortunately that information often comes from places like tPF where we warn buyers about what makes a bag fake and which the makers usually try to correct ASAP.

Remember, these are professional criminals. They know their markets and they have something for everyone, including Louis Vuittons that are so accurate that even well-trained LV store employees can't spot them. The cheap fakes are easy to spot, the really close ones can slip through the cracks. There are a LOT more fakes, and of almost every major brand, than most people will ever realize.
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Wow-How can I thank you Hyacinth for taking a large part of your time to really give the most intelligible candid answer I have ever heard regarding this subject. Although there was a time when I had my finger on the pulse and remember all the fakes at Canal when I lived in NYC in the early eighties, I have felt so far removed/away from all that now and forget how bad it truly is.

I try to do my itty bitty part by coming here to educate myself as I have loved Coach from the moment I bought my first authentic bag in the early 80's. I have never owned or purchased a counterfeit bag knowingly from that point. And the couple I did get stuck with bothered me enough to want to research the info and seek answers from the good folks like yourself here on the forum.

Thank you for making that possible
 
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Hyacinth said:
It all comes down to money.

The badly made cheap fakes that have hideous patchwork patterns, vinyl trim, and a dozen glaring mistakes are made for probably the equivalent of 5 dollars US each, usually assembled by children working in inhumane conditions and treated as slave labor. Obviously the cost of labor is almost nothing, and these "Canal Street Specials" are sold openly on the internet and shipped by the hundreds of thousands to places specializing in selling cheap knock-offs like Santee Alley in CA and Canal Street in New York's Chinatown. The makers don't care if they look real because the buyers don't know or care either, they just want a $20 dollar "Coach" to impress their equally clueless friends. Lower and mid-price fakes are also sold by fronts for terrorist organizations and by street gangs who often front a storefront business selling all kinds of fakes that have supposedly "fallen off the truck".

As the prices and production costs go up, so does the accuracy of the details. The most expensive ones to make are the most accurate, and usually not sold openly on the Internet. There's a large, well-organized network of distributors who sell these "AAA fakes" as genuine for top prices. Many of them are almost impossible to tell from the real thing, that's why it costs so much to make them. These are usually sold through places like Ebay, and right now a large number of them are coming from the Philippines as well as China and Korea. The retail-level sellers know exactly what they're selling and have their own private networks of information about what does and doesn't work, who has the "best" fakes, and what details to pass on to the manufacturers to make their fakes better - unfortunately that information often comes from places like tPF where we warn buyers about what makes a bag fake and which the makers usually try to correct ASAP.

Remember, these are professional criminals. They know their markets and they have something for everyone, including Louis Vuittons that are so accurate that even well-trained LV store employees can't spot them. The cheap fakes are easy to spot, the really close ones can slip through the cracks. There are a LOT more fakes, and of almost every major brand, than most people will ever realize.
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BeenBurned said:
The bullseye has been faked so you cannot assume authenticity based on a bullseye.
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Thx BB!! That's what I thought. It was just to good to be true that they missed that loophole. Thx again for being here to always help :D
 
#5,184
closuitm said:
I've removed the listing. And, my apologies for including the link to my own listing - I didn't think it through all the way clearly :push: thank you very much for this information though.
I know it is completely incorrect, but as a seller, and not a Coach expert, I saw the 'Bonnie Cashin' being used as a keyword in listing titles. This is why I decided 'yeah, it's a great idea to stick that in there, great!' instead of realizing that it was very misleading. I realize now that you can't use her name just to drive traffic to the listing. -__- Thank you however. I'm very appreciative that you set me straight about this.
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This seems to be a regular practice of yours. It appears that many of your listings exaggerate the vintage of your items and use brand names as keyword spam. As Whateve said, you are fortunate that eBay has not suspended your account.
 
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becca55 said:
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Can anyone tell me if this is authentic? I bought it from the bay and the pics were great. The leather does not feel " right" and the bag has no slouch. Now I notice none of my other duffles have this wording on the creed although I see other cobalt duffles that do. ( on the bay) there is something odd with the zipper too. HELP!!
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The wording is fine. The stitching doesn't look right to me. The stitches are too big and sloppy. The thread color seems too light. Can you post a picture of the other problem areas?

ETA: I don't think the font is correct either. Compare it to this listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-L...238?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item461282e25e
 
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netlawyer said:
This seems to be a regular practice of yours. It appears that many of your listings exaggerate the vintage of your items and use brand names as keyword spam. As Whateve said, you are fortunate that eBay has not suspended your account.
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While it may 'seem' like a regular practice to you, I hope I can remind you that everyone makes mistakes. I don't want to argue with you at all of course, and you are right, a lot of my listings have keywords jammed up in every little space. I am a seller on Ebay as a career and didn't start out knowing everything, so I'm doing my best to correct any and all mistakes I make. So I hope I'm not out of line asking for some understanding.
That said, let me try to do this correctly again. I have this Coach tote:
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any opinions on its authenticity?
 
#5,189
skeptik said:
I would love for you kind folks to authenticate this bag. I have concerns as the last 4 pull a recent signature release on Ebay? Also, does anyone know what this bag is called? It is approx 14x4x11-- crossbody.

I always appreciate your help, truly.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100121522@N08/9701563012/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100121522@N08/9701502098/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100121522@N08/9698267807/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100121522@N08/9701519760/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100121522@N08/9698283007/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100121522@N08/9698287369/
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I don't understand what you mean "the last 4 pull a recent signature release on Ebay?" I'm not familiar with this style but I don't see any problems.
 
#5,190
Can someone please authenticate these Coach shoes?
Seems the Coach shoe fairy has been making deposits at my local Goodwills.

The imprint inside is a little tough to photograph...it reads:
A3712
GRETA 8 1/2 B
F2080/H12
Made in China/Chine

Ebay sellers quote $198 as original price...does that sound about right?
Any idea how old they are? Any info is always appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
 

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