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[carouselgal]

I suggest printing out both BeenBurned and my answers, or if you have a phone or tablet you can access tPF with, take it with you since the links I posted are shortened when posted and you'll have to have an internet connection to show them to the store manager.

Thank you. That is exactly what I did. It took some convincing but in the end the store manager agreed to give me my money back. Thank you again for the great service you provide!

 

[JEN_]

Thank you very much, Hyacinth! That is good to know (about the uneven dye at the seams being normal).

Jen

 

[Hyacinth]

Please
Just got this duffle ...
The material feels wrong.
The stitching isnt as good
The color of the zipper
The creed is crooked
The pocket is larger than expected.

Etsy seller

kgriner7
https://www.etsy.com/transaction/127408194

I'd like to see a photo of the side and bottom piping where that piping seam is but from farther away so I can see both the piping and the side of the bag showing at least one of the vertical seams in the main leather panels. If by bad stitching you mean that the 2 ends of the piping don't overlap exactly, that's not usually a problem and it happens on genuine bags too.

The inside pocket does look too large, that seems to be the biggest red flag since that's not the kind of thing that might have happened accidently like a crooked creed stamp. I'm hoping one of our experts who might have a genuine Duffle Sac will take a look.

ETA - here are 2 pics of the creed and pocket from the seller's listing:

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you. That is exactly what I did. It took some convincing but in the end the store manager agreed to give me my money back. Thank you again for the great service you provide!

Good to hear, I'm glad it worked out and that you were able to make her see what made the bag a fake.

 

[cinza]

I'd like to see a photo of the side and bottom piping where that piping seam is but from farther away so I can see both the piping and the side of the bag showing at least one of the vertical seams in the main leather panels. If by bad stitching you mean that the 2 ends of the piping don't overlap exactly, that's not usually a problem and it happens on genuine bags too.

The inside pocket does look too large, that seems to be the biggest red flag since that's not the kind of thing that might have happened accidently like a crooked creed stamp. I'm hoping one of our experts who might have a genuine Duffle Sac will take a look.

I've had 20 -30 duffles over the last few years.. ... but right now.. no 9085 to measure... .. only the earlier ones with very small pockets
I meant the stitching in general is not bad but irregular

 

[Hyacinth]

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I've had 20 -30 duffles over the last few years.. ... but right now.. no 9085 to measure... .. only the earlier ones with very small pockets
I meant the stitching in general is not bad but irregular

Wobbly stitching to me isn't really proof that something's fake unless it's so bad that it just screams it. Something like an inside pocket is a different matter since the same templates were used on all bags of the same style and same time period, it's not the kind of thing where someone could have simply made a mistake. See the pics I just added from your seller's listing and compare them to other Duffle Sacs on Ebay.

Here's a listing for another red one from 1997, notice the smaller pocket, and also the much better-matched color of the zipper that you pointed out in your first post.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

BTW, the same bag you bought on Etsy apparently was also listed on Ebay. The bottom seam looks ok. The pics of the inside pocket aren't wide enough for a size comparison with the known genuine bags though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-xl-Du...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

More opinions are welcome.

 

[latetotheparty]

Cute bag. Pictured below is a photo of the same bag...the "Patch Pocket" designed by Cashin in 1969. I'm not familiar with the store, but the bag and metal tag look fine.

Thanks DemRam, I wish I had seen it a little sooner

 

[shun]

Hi, can someone check this posting for authenticity? Many thanks.

Item:AUTHENTIC COACH PURSE HANDBAG BLUE LEATHER BAG RARE USA EUC CROSS BODY MESSENGER
Listing number:310659119712
Seller:botticelli4grace
Link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/310659119712

 

[whateve]

Hi, can someone check this posting for authenticity? Many thanks.

Item:AUTHENTIC COACH PURSE HANDBAG BLUE LEATHER BAG RARE USA EUC CROSS BODY MESSENGER
Listing number:310659119712
Seller:botticelli4grace
Link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/310659119712

It looks fine.

 

[prettyczel]

please authenticate thanks in advance

Item Name: Coach Chelsea Black White Satchel Speedy Bag F15132

 

[Hyacinth]

please authenticate thanks in advance

Item Name: Coach Chelsea Black White Satchel Speedy Bag F15132

Looks ok to me.

 

[cinza]

Wobbly stitching to me isn't really proof that something's fake unless it's so bad that it just screams it. Something like an inside pocket is a different matter since the same templates were used on all bags of the same style and same time period, it's not the kind of thing where someone could have simply made a mistake. See the pics I just added from your seller's listing and compare them to other Duffle Sacs on Ebay.

Here's a listing for another red one from 1997, notice the smaller pocket, and also the much better-matched color of the zipper that you pointed out in your first post.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

BTW, the same bag you bought on Etsy apparently was also listed on Ebay. The bottom seam looks ok. The pics of the inside pocket aren't wide enough for a size comparison with the known genuine bags though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-xl-Du...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

More opinions are welcome.

Thank you.

 

[cinza]

BTW, the same bag you bought on Etsy apparently was also listed on Ebay. The bottom seam looks ok. The pics of the inside pocket aren't wide enough for a size comparison with the known genuine bags though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-xl-Du...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

More opinions are welcome.[/QUOTE]

Any opinion about how a bag feels? ALSO this one photo of binding overlap.

I have handled hundreds of vintage coach. And this one feels rubbery... the binding hasnt worn normally.. I trust my hands for knowing .. but thats hard to explain to someone who cant feel it.
And
there is an overlap of binding on the top zippered edge.. I dont think I've seen that before...

 

[BeenBurned]

please authenticate thanks in advance

Item Name: Coach Chelsea Black White Satchel Speedy Bag F15132

Looks ok to me.

Agree. Note that Coach doesn't call its bags 'speedy' style.

 

[shun]

It looks fine.

Thank you whateve. Been eying the Chrystie for a while so very happy that I won it for a decent price.