AUTHENTICATE this COACH

[Mama20]

Would someone kindly authenticate on this bag please. I just received it & looks in pretty good shape (only quick check since I'm not home), but my only concern is the strap leather/stitching doesn't look even? I'll try taking pics later...


Item:
Coach Vintage Black Leather Shoulder Bag Lock No.H9N-9061

Listing number: 261197373543
Seller: gabrielas956
Link: www.ebay.com/itm/261197373543
Comments: thanks for your time!

 

[whateve]

Would someone kindly authenticate on this bag please. I just received it & looks in pretty good shape (only quick check since I'm not home), but my only concern is the strap leather/stitching doesn't look even? I'll try taking pics later...


Item:
Coach Vintage Black Leather Shoulder Bag Lock No.H9N-9061

Listing number: 261197373543
Seller: gabrielas956
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261197373543
Comments: thanks for your time!

I don't see any problems with it. It looks authentic. Post pictures of your concerns.

 

[bj601]

Thanks Hyacinth and Beenburned for the confirmation on the black Kristen (posting from my phone and haven't figured out how to quote my old post). Here are the photos of the Sophia I mentioned.

 

[whateve]

Thanks Hyacinth and Beenburned for the confirmation on the black Kristen (posting from my phone and haven't figured out how to quote my old post). Here are the photos of the Sophia I mentioned.

It's authentic. I have the same bag made in the same month and factory.

 

[Mama20]

I don't see any problems with it. It looks authentic. Post pictures of your concerns.

Thanks for looking into it. It was just one part of the strap (by stitching) the leather wasn't cut as straight as the other side...uneven & kind of closer to the grommets. I haven't been able to take a picture yet. It isn't too bad so as long as it's authentic- all is good! I just was shocked to see a difference.

Thanks again for your time!

 

[bj601]

Thanks whateve! I was hoping it was authentic...went and picked up the black kristen and a michael kors bag today...saw the sophia which still had the tissue paper on the zipper pulls on the inside pocket. Also in the inside pocket was a gift receipt from macy's but it didnt say what is was for. I ended up getting all 3 bags for 150.00 so i took a gamble that the sophia would be authentic

 

[BeenBurned]

Thanks Hyacinth and Beenburned for the confirmation on the black Kristen (posting from my phone and haven't figured out how to quote my old post). Here are the photos of the Sophia I mentioned.

It's authentic. I have the same bag made in the same month and factory.

Looks good to me too.

 

[CrazyCoachLady]

Hello! Please could someone kindly authenticate this bag please?

Item Name (if you know it): Willis Messenger? in Navy
Link (if available): no link available
Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.) Photos attached. I can provide more if necessary.

I purchased from a friend's estate sale. I am pretty close to the family so have no doubt the bag was purchased from a reputable dealer. However it does have the J8Y in the creed, so thought I'd ask the experts to take a look.

The dimensions are exactly the same as an authentic Willis Messenger? in Mahogany that I have personally owned for years.

Thanks so much for your help!

 

[whateve]

Thanks whateve! I was hoping it was authentic...went and picked up the black kristen and a michael kors bag today...saw the sophia which still had the tissue paper on the zipper pulls on the inside pocket. Also in the inside pocket was a gift receipt from macy's but it didnt say what is was for. I ended up getting all 3 bags for 150.00 so i took a gamble that the sophia would be authentic

Unbelievable deal! I got my Sophia at Macy's for around $300!

 

[whateve]

Thanks for looking into it. It was just one part of the strap (by stitching) the leather wasn't cut as straight as the other side...uneven & kind of closer to the grommets. I haven't been able to take a picture yet. It isn't too bad so as long as it's authentic- all is good! I just was shocked to see a difference.

Thanks again for your time!

Mine was made in the same month and year as yours but at a different plant. The leather edging on the straps touches the grommets nearly everywhere. There is one spot where it might be a millimeter or two further away. This is one of my favorites. I love the nickel hardware on this bag.

 

[bj601]

Unbelievable deal! I got my Sophia at Macy's for around $300!

Lol, I know I got an amazing deal!! My co-worker got the same michael kors tote I bought on ebay for 150.00. She was not too happy lol. The gentleman I bought them from told me his daughter has a purse addiction....ton of them with price tags still on and she is cleaning out some of her closets. I told him to give her my number lol

 

[whateve]

Hello! Please could someone kindly authenticate this bag please?

Item Name (if you know it): Willis Messenger? in Navy
Link (if available): no link available
Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.) Photos attached. I can provide more if necessary.

I purchased from a friend's estate sale. I am pretty close to the family so have no doubt the bag was purchased from a reputable dealer. However it does have the J8Y in the creed, so thought I'd ask the experts to take a look.

The dimensions are exactly the same as an authentic Willis Messenger? in Mahogany that I have personally owned for years.

Thanks so much for your help!

I will defer to Hyacinth (those J8Y creeds scare me!) but I wanted to make one observation. Something looks off about the long strap and the way it is attached to the clips. On my 1998 Willis, the leather tapers in to the ring so that it is narrower where it attaches. Yours has an exaggerated curve where the strap has to bend around the ring. The stitching on mine is much closer to the ring and the stitching is straighter, not sloppy like on yours. I would never use the long strap to determine authenticity because it could have been replaced with another brand.

A picture of the inside zipper pull might be helpful. Do you see any differences between this bag and your Willis?

 

[CrazyCoachLady]

I will defer to Hyacinth (those J8Y creeds scare me!) but I wanted to make one observation. Something looks off about the long strap and the way it is attached to the clips. On my 1998 Willis, the leather tapers in to the ring so that it is narrower where it attaches. Yours has an exaggerated curve where the strap has to bend around the ring. The stitching on mine is much closer to the ring and the stitching is straighter, not sloppy like on yours. I would never use the long strap to determine authenticity because it could have been replaced with another brand.

A picture of the inside zipper pull might be helpful. Do you see any differences between this bag and your Willis?

Thanks for the observation about the way the straps are connected. The strap on my Mahogany Willis does taper in just as you described instead of having the exaggerated curve like on the Navy. When I compared the straps a bit more closely the Navy strap is just a teensy bit wider and just a teensy bit thinner leather. It almost doesn't seem to be of the same leather as the bag itself. Maybe it was replaced sometime over the years? I'm attaching a photo of the inside zipper pull as requested.

 

[beausmom71]

I'd have to agree that MAGNETIC snaps with the Coach name on them especially on older items are probably fake. I've seen what I believe are very early genuine ones with no stamping (someone mentioned a few days ago that the patent information was on a paper sticky in the inside pocket?) or with legitimate company names of the snap manufacturer or just with the US Patent numbers. Some fakes use a cheap magnetic snap with fake (too few digits) patent numbers.

The smaller pressure-type snaps used in most wallets have often been faked with the Coach name. Those probably shouldn't be used for authenticating.

The green wallet with the fake green bag that Etsy seller RedTutuRetro has listed is probably fake based on both the fake magnetic snap with the Coach logos and on the strange zipper pull but better photos of that pull would be interesting.

It's also important to keep in mind that, just like with YKK zippers, a fake item can still have a genuine snap when the snaps are make by a legitimate manufacturer that sells to anyone who can pay for their merchandise. And with the pressure-type small snaps, finding an unscrupulous supplier in a third-world country willing to make fake snaps with the Coach name on them is no problem for the fakes-makers, just like finding faked Coach-stamped O-rings, strap clips, grommets, zipper pulls, etc. As we've said before , "Anything a maker can make, a faker can fake".

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your insights!
I couldn't get the Ebay link Whateve posted to work, but there is another wallet on Etsy like the geen one...... so I'm guessing this one's a fake too?
http://www.etsy.com/listing/1285570...ecent&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery

 

[Hyacinth]

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your insights!
I couldn't get the Ebay link Whateve posted to work, but there is another wallet on Etsy like the geen one...... so I'm guessing this one's a fake too?
http://www.etsy.com/listing/1285570...ecent&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery

No it's not. The STYLE of the wallet is legitimate, it's the non-Coach hardware that makes the others fake. This one has Coach hardware.