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#7,081
Hyacinth said:
The fonts all look similar. The only differences I'm seeing is that one is either more deeply stamped or less worn than the other, and the serial number is positioned a bit differently. But serial numbers were stamped separately back then. What other differences are you seeing?
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Hi Hyacinth -

The "1"s in the eBay bag are different from the "1"s on the Etsy bag. On the eBay bag the top serif in the "1" is straight across, on the Etsy bag it slopes down. On all the authentic bags I have the "1" matches the Etsy bag and even now Coach uses a slanted top serif, even though it doesn't use the bar at the bottom any more.

The bottoms of the "5"s are also more rounded in the Etsy bag. The top of the loop of the five is higher than the bottom end of the ascender (the line that goes up to make the side of the 5), on the eBay bag the loop of the 5 goes straight out and is even with the bottom of the ascender.

If the bags were from different plants or manufactured years apart, then maybe I would expect a change. However K1D and F1D would only be five months apart.

The fact that the serial number was so off center seemed like a flag so I started really looking at it.

Including the links again so you don't have to go back in the thread:

eBay bag: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9715-...rQcqD7ikAf5GFEVx1D2r0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Etsy bag: http://www.etsy.com/listing/103269015/reserved-vintage-dark-brown-leather

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this - I might be getting paranoid.
 
#7,082
Hyacinth said:
I'm really uncomfortable with the first one. The E plant code was still being used regularly by the Italian plant, and the creed itself just doesn't feel right.

The second looks ok - Legacy West Day Tote.
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Thank you so much!

Not surprised on the first, the side panels are wearing differently than the main panels and they have that crumpled up "run over by a truck" look that you don't usually see in an authentic bag.
 
#7,086
netlawyer said:
Thank you so much!

Not surprised on the first, the side panels are wearing differently than the main panels and they have that crumpled up "run over by a truck" look that you don't usually see in an authentic bag.
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Stretch-marked or "elephant-skin" leather is always a red flag. The only place that those type of stress lines should show are in areas of the bag that get streched from heavy contents or overpacking, and even then it takes a lot of stress to do that to a real Coach.
 
#7,087
netlawyer said:
Hi Hyacinth -

The "1"s in the eBay bag are different from the "1"s on the Etsy bag. On the eBay bag the top serif in the "1" is straight across, on the Etsy bag it slopes down. On all the authentic bags I have the "1" matches the Etsy bag and even now Coach uses a slanted top serif, even though it doesn't use the bar at the bottom any more.

The bottoms of the "5"s are also more rounded in the Etsy bag. The top of the loop of the five is higher than the bottom end of the ascender (the line that goes up to make the side of the 5), on the eBay bag the loop of the 5 goes straight out and is even with the bottom of the ascender.

If the bags were from different plants or manufactured years apart, then maybe I would expect a change. However K1D and F1D would only be five months apart.

The fact that the serial number was so off center seemed like a flag so I started really looking at it.

Including the links again so you don't have to go back in the thread:

eBay bag: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9715-...rQcqD7ikAf5GFEVx1D2r0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Etsy bag: http://www.etsy.com/listing/103269015/reserved-vintage-dark-brown-leather

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this - I might be getting paranoid.
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OK, I've been doing some digging around and found two more K1D-9715 up for auction. They have the same font as the eBay bag I had my questions on.

BLACK BEAUTY! RICH Soft LEATHER Small COACH Crossbody FLAP BAG Mini PURSE #9715
Item Number: 230890973045
Seller: beadalooo
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-BEAUT...045?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item35c22ca775

COACH VINTAGE CAMEL LEATHER SHOULDERBAG - 9715
Item Number: 310611207424
Seller: jwupscaleresale
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-VINTA...424?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4851dee500

Here is an H1D-9175 with the sloping serif "1" -

http://www.etsy.com/listing/109590071/reserved-vintage-black-leather-coach

Now I see that maybe the "5"s aren't different, but the "1"s definitely are.
 
#7,088
2Blessed said:
Good afternoon ladies. I am hoping I can get some advise on a pair of sunglasses I stupidly bought when I had my eyes dilated! I thought I was bidding on a different pair. I forgot I had bookmarked these to inquire here and another pair I planned to bid on. Your advise would be greatly appreciated!

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Made in Italy???



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This looks odd to me.

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This is really terrible quality for a Coach product.

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This is a soft but formed zippered case. Doesn't look right to me!

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This "cloth" is actually solid yellow in color and quite thin.


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The "new with tags" tag.
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The sunglasses are fake.

Did they come from a listing?
 
#7,089
ledobe said:
OK, I'm really not posting this for authentication, but I'm really kind of curious and if you have time to look at it, fine, if not-it's too late the bag already sold.

I ran across this auction a little while before it ended, and it caught my eye because it is similar to the bag posted below, and I have not ever been able to find another burgundy bag with nickel hardware, even after perusing the way back machine quite a bit while researching my bag:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Caoch-Rambl...03deJBWbXvmKXxqKgI6XY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I asked the seller to post the creed and he said he would and never did. But looking at the details of this bag, and the details of my bag...just made me curious. The stitching is pretty much the same, the leather looks kind of the same too. The leather on my bag was almost OK for a new coach, I thought it was a little too wrinkley, but not quite wrinkley enough to raise a flag if it hadn't been for the stitching issues. Of course, mine has the funky creed too.

So, not sure why I'm posting this. I realize there is not enough info to authenticate the listing and I'm not trying to prove my bag is real, I just thought I'd bring it up as something to keep in mind when looking at these bags.
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Hyacinth said:
The box isn't from that bag, it looks like the stamp shows 9966, but it's not 9061. There's no problem with the silver hardware but obviously without a creed pic that's all I can say. Silver hardware was available with almost all the classic leather styles after 1998. I don't see any problems other than no creed photo.

The one that you'd asked about before just has too many mistakes to be real. A lot of fakes are almost identical to genuine Coaches in stitching and leather quality, it's the small details that they don't understand like serial number codes and using the right hardware and the correct length zipper where the fakes usually screw up.
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Seller gjerame1970 - I find it interesting that the seller uses "Caoch" in both the title and the description. Makes me wonder if she's hiding something, trying to stay under the radar for a reason or is circumventing restrictions.
 
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#7,091
netlawyer said:
Hi Hyacinth -

The "1"s in the eBay bag are different from the "1"s on the Etsy bag. On the eBay bag the top serif in the "1" is straight across, on the Etsy bag it slopes down. On all the authentic bags I have the "1" matches the Etsy bag and even now Coach uses a slanted top serif, even though it doesn't use the bar at the bottom any more.

The bottoms of the "5"s are also more rounded in the Etsy bag. The top of the loop of the five is higher than the bottom end of the ascender (the line that goes up to make the side of the 5), on the eBay bag the loop of the 5 goes straight out and is even with the bottom of the ascender.

If the bags were from different plants or manufactured years apart, then maybe I would expect a change. However K1D and F1D would only be five months apart.

The fact that the serial number was so off center seemed like a flag so I started really looking at it.

Including the links again so you don't have to go back in the thread:

eBay bag: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9715-...rQcqD7ikAf5GFEVx1D2r0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Etsy bag: http://www.etsy.com/listing/103269015/reserved-vintage-dark-brown-leather

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this - I might be getting paranoid.
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Ok, I see what you mean. But it's always possible that a large plant like the D plant would have had more than one serial number stamp, so minor differences in the digits can't be used as proof without some other information to back that up. For instance here's a D plant bag from a year earlier that has the same details in the serial number as the bag you're wondering about, and I don't see any other problems with either bag.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vinta...265?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3ccf6fb8c1
and another:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vinta...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

And here's the creed of the first one, the second is the same except for the color:
(Nice to see the thumbnails are back)
 

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#7,092
Hi everyone! Whenever anyone has a moment, could you authenticate this bag I picked up at Savers Thrift Store this evening for 12.00.....# L4G-9826.....It looks brand new and matches perfectly several other ones I saw when I googled. Could I have the name as well - have seen it called a small flap bag or a crossbody sling....it measures 5"L x 5"H x2"D and is a beautiful dark green color with no blemish to be found. As always, thanks so much all!!


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#7,093
Hyacinth said:
Her other "designer" ones were probably fake too.

File a SNAD claim ASAP - she may still have money left in her PP selling account.
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Thanks Hyacinth! I filed right away and even called eBay to see if I could escalate it. They said I could only if the seller agreed to it on the dispute details form. It's strange though as I tried to send another message to the seller and it wouldn't go. The page has now been removed by eBay.

I just now got another message from eBay:

The seller has asked eBay Customer Support to review this case and make a final decision.

We'll review the case details, such as messages sent in the Resolutions Center about this case and other emails sent through eBay between you and the seller. If we have questions, we'll get in touch with you. We'll get back to you within 72 hours.


What is this seller thinking? Does she think she won't have to pay for the refund? Maybe she thinks the eBay Buyer Protection will cover it for her? I'm puzzled!
 
#7,094
BeenBurned said:
The sunglasses are fake.

Did they come from a listing?
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They did BeenBurned, but it has now been removed by eBay. I was the idiot buyer! I had eye issues and thought I was bidding on a different pair of sunglasses. Stupid - right? The crazy thing is the seller told me to file a dispute to get my money back! All I can think is maybe she thinks I'll get paid by eBays buyer protection and not by her????
 
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