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OKay, ladies, I just won a bid that I am really hoping is an authentic Madison Roylaton that looks very much like Katev's Beechnut Royalton on the Rehab forum ( http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/now-cousin-has-come-over-italy-join-family-717893.html#post20462935 )..I know the creed is hard to read but when I googled the serial#, I did see another one....fingers crossed and as always, thank you! It is such a beautiful bag.

Vintage brown pebbled coach handbag
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-bro...3UQkhGfoZPezZcpTisxH8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
item#: 140920661680
seller: melorajohnson
As always, I appreciate your valuable time and effort put into doing this!

Great find! Authentic Madison Royalton.
 
Title: AUTHENTIC COACH BONNIE CASHIN CRESCENT BAG #4157 GENTLY PRE-OWNED
Seller: blueberrymutton
Item number: 230938135265
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-C...265?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item35c4fc4ae1

Comments: Seller shows pictures of 2 different creeds with 2 different serial numbers, neither of which matches the style of the bag and neither of which looks like the right color for the bag although I think the 4157 creed is the one on the bag.

Opinions? Is this bag authentic? Was it made in the color shown? TIA.

This bag was removed after reporting a few days ago. It is fake.
Thank you.

I thought it was familiar. I'd had the seller on my watchlist because she'd had other fakes that I was watching to be relisted.
 
Hi all -

Thank you again for all your help with my fake Legacy Zip. I've become obsessed with Authenticate this and have been reading you guys "back catalog" as it were. I LOVE IT.

OK, with that being said, I've got another interesting bag here.

http://s1273.beta.photobucket.com/user/netlawyer/library/5FM-490_ Pebbled Drawstring

It has the right Costa Rica plant code, but the month and year codes are reversed. I recall seeing Hyacinth's posts about some plants mixing these up - would Costa Rica in 1995 be one of of those?

When I compared to other bags, it looks it seems identical to this #4931:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Almost-Vint...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

which concerned me since when I powdered the creed, it looks like #490(5?) which I then checked and turns out to also be a Sonoma Drawstring but in natural grain rather than nubuc leather. (HT Coach Rehab Project Blog for the style numbers.)

So sorry for the long post, I am getting nutty about these old bags (is it possible to recover?) and I wanted to share my thought process as I thought through why this bag might have the serial number it does and sleuthing out the style number.

It's fine, 4931 was the Small Drawstring Nubuc and 4905 was the Small Drawstring Natural Grain. And quite a few mid-90s bags from plants outside the US had scrambled serial prefixes. It was most common in Sheridans and Sonomas but I've also seen it in a few other styles.

"I am getting nutty about these old bags (is it possible to recover?)"
Nope, sorry, once you get bitten, you're toast. Old Coaches are kind of like vampires that way. ;)
 
Hi Gals! Here are pictures of the Willis I bought a couple days ago. I bought it without a clear view of the creed, and so you guys were unable to authenticate.

http://s1240.beta.photobucket.com/user/Meggiemoo84/story/17091

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300868697048?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

It actually seems like great quality. I don't have much to compare to, however. Do you all know if the fakes are close in quality to the bags Coach makes today?

Yes, there are a lot of fakes that are close in quality to Coach bags. Some of them are scary good. But you don't have to worry - yours looks authentic.
 
Hi Gals! Here are pictures of the Willis I bought a couple days ago. I bought it without a clear view of the creed, and so you guys were unable to authenticate.

http://s1240.beta.photobucket.com/user/Meggiemoo84/story/17091

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300868697048?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

It actually seems like great quality. I don't have much to compare to, however. Do you all know if the fakes are close in quality to the bags Coach makes today?

It seems to be ok.

And quality is no proof of authenticity. A lot of older fakes are better quality than the bags Coach is making today, and almost the same quality as the styles they're faking.
 
It seems to be ok.

And quality is no proof of authenticity. A lot of older fakes are better quality than the bags Coach is making today, and almost the same quality as the styles they're faking.
That is really sad. It's too bad Coach isn't listening. So aside from the aspect of being brand-loyal and/or nostalgic, there is nothing wrong with buying a fake. Am I right?
 
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