The first one is fake. That style never used a Lozenge lining, the strap looks like 2 different ones put together, the leather patch on the front is wrong, the color of the creed patch and lining are BOTH wrong, and that Hamptons Weekend Patchwork line wasn't even introduced until Spring of 2007 AND a style from 2004 would NEVER have had a 5-digit style number since those weren't even introduced until Summer 2006.
The second one's already been removed but the seller has MORE fakes listed, the denim Patchwork with the also-fake Logo or Lozenge lining, and the Sig C bag with the front clip.
The inside zipper pull is fake on the Patchwork and the creed stitching is a MESS, the fabric on the front Patch Pocket is also wrong.:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-AUTHENT...158?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item35bf8a1866
also http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-SHOUL...733?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item35bf99689d
with the crap and always fake shiny mini-C lining and fake creed with NO serial number
DO NOT BUY FROM SELLER jr0622
Thank you!