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Item: coach sunglasses

Listing number: 280890355791
Seller: stargroups ( Feedback Score Of 21640
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Link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Authentic-CO...90355791?pt=US_Sunglasses&hash=item41665eb04f
 
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I'm looking at a friend of mine's coach satchel. The creed doesn't look like any I've seen. The last two words read " leather 1941." Does Coach put 1941 in the creed? Thank you very much for viewing this for me!


NOT authentic. Read the creed - it says it's made of leather - it's not.

L4C indicates a bag made in 1994 and Coach didn't even make signature fabric bags back then.
 
TAFT #2 : Mahogany? color
zipper pull also is a bit less brassy looking...almost like it was plated and wore off? or who knows...looks a lot like the other one. Quite the Taft Lesson I'm learning.


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This one has red flags too. Not just the zipper pull - I've only seen metal ring pulls with that extra crescent of metal on fakes, but it usually says Coach on that metal bit on the fakes. Plant code E belongs only to Italy, and both of your Tafts have mid to late 1995 year codes but are still using the older creed stamp with the previous wording and the country of origin at the bottom instead of in the second line of the creed. Maybe there were still a few older stamp in use (Italy used the older format for a long time but the stamp itself had been modernized and the Coach logo updated). Here's a different style bag also from the D plant like the first Taft and it already has the new creed - again, maybe both styles were being used at the same time? I don't know and I doubt if anyone else does either, unfortunately.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Women...015?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4d02700ac7

But an Italy code should never have been used in a Made in the US bag. Just looking through the Italian-made Madisons currently for sale, I'm seeing 1995 month codes A, G, and E, and a J all shown as from Italy in one of my own bags. An H code with a US creed just sounds odd, it's right in the middle of the other months and it doesn't seem like it should be there.

I can't be sure about either one. None of the other Tafts currently listed have that zipper pull and they're not from the right time period either so they're not much help. They may be genuine bags with a few strange mistakes, it's impossible to tell without a lot more comparing and at the moment there doesn't seem to be anything to compare them to, since I'm the only person crazy enough to obsess about these kinds of things.

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Here's what I mean by the "new" style creed - another different style but made in the D plant in July (G) 1995. And an H5D- Taft from my photo files that seems genuine with the new creed, the number is barely readable but it is H5D-:
 

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This one has red flags too. Not just the zipper pull - I've only seen metal ring pulls with that extra crescent of metal on fakes, but it usually says Coach on that metal bit on the fakes. Plant code E belongs only to Italy, and both of your Tafts have mid to late 1995 year codes but are still using the older creed stamp with the previous wording and the country of origin at the bottom instead of in the second line of the creed. Maybe there were still a few older stamp in use (Italy used the older format for a long time but the stamp itself had been modernized and the Coach logo updated). Here's a different style bag also from the D plant like the first Taft and it already has the new creed - again, maybe both styles were being used at the same time? I don't know and I doubt if anyone else does either, unfortunately.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Women...015?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4d02700ac7

But an Italy code should never have been used in a Made in the US bag. Just looking through the Italian-made Madisons currently for sale, I'm seeing 1995 month codes A, G, and E, and a J all shown as from Italy in one of my own bags. An H code with a US creed just sounds odd, it's right in the middle of the other months and it doesn't seem like it should be there.

I can't be sure about either one. None of the other Tafts currently listed have that zipper pull and they're not from the right time period either so they're not much help. They may be genuine bags with a few strange mistakes, it's impossible to tell without a lot more comparing and at the moment there doesn't seem to be anything to compare them to, since I'm the only person crazy enough to obsess about these kinds of things.


well, wow, what a conundrum. Thank you so much for trying to figure it all out! sigh, what are the chances I'd find two bags, (totally different purchase locations and months apart from each other). ...so similar to each other, both seeming pretty old, incredibly well made with all these weird aspects going on!! Feel free to hang onto my photos as references for when others come along with any questions about this bag and its quirks or lack there of. I guess I'll just wear them/hang onto them for now since I do love them. Thank you!!!
 
well, wow, what a conundrum. Thank you so much for trying to figure it all out! sigh, what are the chances I'd find two bags, (totally different purchase locations and months apart from each other). ...so similar to each other, both seeming pretty old, incredibly well made with all these weird aspects going on!! Feel free to hang onto my photos as references for when others come along with any questions about this bag and its quirks or lack there of. I guess I'll just wear them/hang onto them for now since I do love them. Thank you!!!

If it's any consolation, a lot of the fakes WERE very well made, they've lasted almost as long as the genuine article. The Tafts especially have so many questionable examples in circulation that I'd forgotten about the photos of the tan one that I'd saved, the ones in my post yhat I added after you'd replied. It doesn't make sense saving reference photos unless I'm sure they're genuine, and it's hard to be sure with many Taft Bags.

They still may be worth rehabbing, and you'll still have a durable and decent bag. But please don't sell it or even donate it when you're finished with it.
 
Thanks so much! So it would be safe to purchase? Just want to make sure...:smile1:

I'm giving my opinion that the item in the photo seems to be genuine, and as it explains in the first post of this thread, we're giving our personal opinions, not guarantees. We can make mistakes, sellers can send a different bag than what's in the photo, or the bag may have undisclosed damage, or any one of a dozen possibilities. "Safe to purchase" is more than any of us can promise. It looks as if it should be genuine based on the pictures and information, the buyer has to understand that this type of purchase always has some sort of risk. But if there were any warning signs, I would mention them.

Protect yourself and pay with a credit card through Paypal if possible.
 
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