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#8,476
CA-Anonymous said:
Hello Authenticators,
I'm hoping you can't help me authenticate (or not) ANOTHER Hamptons Alligator tote I bought last week....If you'll recall I bought one earlier this month from e-bay (which you authenticated), and I really loved the style (and the alligator) so much I took the plunge on another one I saw soon after....I'm afraid though that I may not have bought an authentic bag this time, as there is NO creed patch inside.
Here was the original listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160755909820?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

and here are some addtl. pics. I just snapped, and a couple compared to my greyish/taupish/greenish one I bought a few weeks back. In comparing them, I noticed (bsides the missing creed patch) that the opening on the white bag seems wider than on my grey one (when looking at them from a side angle). Any ideas whether this could still be real even with no creed patch??? ...Oh, forgot to add that the suede interior lining feels exactly the same.

one more pic....in next post.
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I don't think it looks right (from the pictures you've shown) either.
 
#8,477
Hyacinth said:
If there's no creed patch and it's the same size as the other one, it's fake. Period.

Just FYI, Coach doesn't write style numbers on the outside of their boxes - they don't write ANYTHING on the outside -, and that's not a standard Coach box either. And didn't the wording "Women Coach Alligator Tote Handbag" sound a bit odd? That's how thousands of listings for Chinese fakes often start.

In addition, the inside zippers are different, even the zipper pull on the fake looks like cheap Mystery Metal. There's NO photo of the inside and no mention of the serial number, and with a bag that's supposed to be a Limited Edition they should at least have posted photos of the creed patch.

If it doesn't say Coach anywhere on or in the bag, it's a knockoff that they're passing off as a Coach. And technically if there's no Coach name or logo on the bag, it's not even counterfeit, it's just a scamming seller trying to rip someone off.

Contact them and demand a full refund including your shipping charges, and start a SNAD claim with Ebay at the same time. Mention to Ebay that you own the verified GENUINE version of the bag and you can send comparison photos showing where the differences are. Don't mention "counterfeit", just say the bag was sold to you as a genuine Coach but it's not.

And please, next time ask here first, and don't ever bid on anything without a clear creed photo.
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Thanks Hyacinth, The seller has been contacted. Lesson learned
 
#8,478
CA-Anonymous said:
Hello Authenticators,
I'm hoping you can't help me authenticate (or not) ANOTHER Hamptons Alligator tote I bought last week....If you'll recall I bought one earlier this month from e-bay (which you authenticated), and I really loved the style (and the alligator) so much I took the plunge on another one I saw soon after....I'm afraid though that I may not have bought an authentic bag this time, as there is NO creed patch inside.
Here was the original listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160755909820?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

and here are some addtl. pics. I just snapped, and a couple compared to my greyish/taupish/greenish one I bought a few weeks back. In comparing them, I noticed (bsides the missing creed patch) that the opening on the white bag seems wider than on my grey one (when looking at them from a side angle). Any ideas whether this could still be real even with no creed patch??? ...Oh, forgot to add that the suede interior lining feels exactly the same.

one more pic....in next post.
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CA-Anonymous said:
....cont.
this is what was written on the outside of the coach box...it has the correct style number written, but I know that doesn't really mean anything....TIA for your help!
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Hyacinth said:
If there's no creed patch and it's the same size as the other one, it's fake. Period.

Just FYI, Coach doesn't write style numbers on the outside of their boxes - they don't write ANYTHING on the outside -, and that's not a standard Coach box either. And didn't the wording "Women Coach Alligator Tote Handbag" sound a bit odd? That's how thousands of listings for Chinese fakes often start.

In addition, the inside zippers are different, even the zipper pull on the fake looks like cheap Mystery Metal. There's NO photo of the inside and no mention of the serial number, and with a bag that's supposed to be a Limited Edition they should at least have posted photos of the creed patch.

If it doesn't say Coach anywhere on or in the bag, it's a knockoff that they're passing off as a Coach. And technically if there's no Coach name or logo on the bag, it's not even counterfeit, it's just a scamming seller trying to rip someone off.

Contact them and demand a full refund including your shipping charges, and start a SNAD claim with Ebay at the same time. Mention to Ebay that you own the verified GENUINE version of the bag and you can send comparison photos showing where the differences are. Don't mention "counterfeit", just say the bag was sold to you as a genuine Coach but it's not.

And please, next time ask here first, and don't ever bid on anything without a clear creed photo.
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BeenBurned said:
I don't think it looks right (from the pictures you've shown) either.
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CA-Anonymous said:
Thanks Hyacinth, The seller has been contacted. Lesson learned
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IMO, this is not an honest mistake that the seller, rolo3228 made. He has 2 other current listings for non-Coach "Coach" bags, both claiming to be alligator, at least one of which is marked with "Coach" and both showing fake dust bags.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/rolo3228/m.html?_nkw=coach&rt=nc&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283

http://www.ebay.com/csc/rolo3228/m.html?_nkw=coach&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283
 
#8,479
BeenBurned said:
IMO, this is not an honest mistake that the seller, rolo3228 made. He has 2 other current listings for non-Coach "Coach" bags, both claiming to be alligator, at least one of which is marked with "Coach" and both showing fake dust bags.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/rolo3228/m.html?_nkw=coach&rt=nc&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283

http://www.ebay.com/csc/rolo3228/m.html?_nkw=coach&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283
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Yep, I saw those. And while the evening bag with the chain handle seems like a style that they would have considered making in genuine alligator, the other one doesn't. I wish there was a way to compare the skins, not that I know what real alligator looks like. And it seems like if Coach made small bags from alligator, they would have had creeds. The fact that the full size bag doesn't have one either is totally inexplicable.
 
#8,480
hi, ok so I got this wristlet from CL for really cheap and was wondering if its auth. or not...It has the coach tag..its just flipped over and the lining is blue. If it is auth. can u give me name, ori. price and around when it came out...
 

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#8,481
Hyacinth said:
Yep, I saw those. And while the evening bag with the chain handle seems like a style that they would have considered making in genuine alligator, the other one doesn't. I wish there was a way to compare the skins, not that I know what real alligator looks like. And it seems like if Coach made small bags from alligator, they would have had creeds. The fact that the full size bag doesn't have one either is totally inexplicable.
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The evening bag was listed at the same time as the one I bought, but the other one (which def. looks questionable) was listed more recently after I'd already won my tote. Should I report these two listings, do you think? Also, I couldn't figure out how to file a SNAD without contacting the seller first (the wizard thing that E-bay steps you through). Is there a round-about way of filing a SNAD or do I need to wait to hear back from the seller before I can file a SNAD?
 
#8,482
aagh said:
hi, ok so I got this wristlet from CL for really cheap and was wondering if its auth. or not...It has the coach tag..its just flipped over and the lining is blue. If it is auth. can u give me name, ori. price and around when it came out...
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Although I haven't seen this in the black and white, I've seen other colors of tweed and herringbone. It looks fine though I don't have a style number for it.
 
#8,483
CA-Anonymous said:
The evening bag was listed at the same time as the one I bought, but the other one (which def. looks questionable) was listed more recently after I'd already won my tote. Should I report these two listings, do you think? Also, I couldn't figure out how to file a SNAD without contacting the seller first (the wizard thing that E-bay steps you through). Is there a round-about way of filing a SNAD or do I need to wait to hear back from the seller before I can file a SNAD?
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Since you have 45 days to file, there's no huge hurry to file. If he doesn't respond or if he responds in a way other than you want to hear, refer him here and let us have our way with him! :censor:
 
#8,486
Hyacinth said:
First of all, WHICH Wayback for 1997? Which month? Are you looking at SUMMER colors? And are you sure the Wayback is showing you the correct months? Please DON'T depend on the Wayback, that's as dangerous as depending on Google.

Don't ever expect colors posted online to be accurate, they never are. Look at 50 Gallery photos of leather Coaches on a Search page. Guess what color the bags are based just on the photos and then check the listings to see what colors they REALLY are.

Take my advice and don't worry too much about colors - not all of them are going to be able to be verified, especially since, as I mentioned in one of my Ebay Guides, Coach didn't even have that information available on the internet until 2000 so the Wayback's information will always be incomplete and a lot of Wayback pages have major flaws - for one, just like Coach's current webpages, they ONLY show the colors that are currently in stock or in the case of the Wayback, the colors that were in stock on the day the page was scanned. They're NOT an accurate representation of everything available that year. And as I think I've mentioned before, Coach has also made special colors for Resort items and for some retailers which WON'T be shown on the Wayback or in the catalogs.

Even if I can't find a color that looks exactly like that in a catalog, I'm looking at a bag with accurate details, a correct creed stamp, a valid Outlet stamp, and a valid Final Sale stamp. I'm NOT going to worry if I can't verify the color. If something besides the color is wrong, that's a red flag.
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thank you. It seems real to me. There are only two wayback pages for 1997, February and April. So I guess this color would have been released in Summer.
 
#8,487
Please authenticate this bag. I have a better pict of the creed patch if you need it. TIA! =]
 

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#8,489
Rambler said:
Good evening authenticators.

Could you please take a look at this bag? I think its a Dinky, barely fits a checkbook wallet.

Item: red leather bag
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Seller:/
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Comments:Another thrift store purchase

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Definitely a "Dinky" - style 9375.

I have one in tan, but that one is a really beautiful color.

Very small, though it's practical if you don't need to carry much stuff.

:smile1:
 
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