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chanel_lovver said:
Hello!!
Please help me authenticate... I sold this Coach bag on ebay and the buyer is telling me that it's a fake and she said a bad fake too! I'm sure that it's authentic but I would love to direct her to the authentication of the bag here. Since I can't post a link to my own ebay auction I'll include pics and all the other details. Thanks!! Plus, if she does send it back I'll have this when I post it again. TIA
Item: Classic genuine leather camel beige Coach handbag lunch tote 9063
Seller: Me ;)
Pictures:





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chanel_lovver said:
Oops, forgot the creed:
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I see the letter "L" but what are the 2 numbers or letters that follow?


:smile1:
 
#4,457
Hyacinth said:
Just 2 more questions. Does the strap detatch? And is there an open pocket at the very back of the bag that's behind the pocket that has the creed stamped on it?
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Thank you again for all of your help.
Yes, the strap does detach on both sides. Yes, there is open pocket at the back of the bag behind the open pocket that has the creed. Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by chanel_lovver Hello!!
Please help me authenticate... I sold this Coach bag on ebay and the buyer is telling me that it's a fake and she said a bad fake too! I'm sure that it's authentic but I would love to direct her to the authentication of the bag here. Since I can't post a link to my own ebay auction I'll include pics and all the other details. Thanks!! Plus, if she does send it back I'll have this when I post it again. TIA
Item: Classic genuine leather camel beige Coach handbag lunch tote 9063
Seller: Me ;)
Pictures:
http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/31...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/17...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/49...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/48...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/19...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/47...425x425Q85.jpg



Originally Posted by chanel_lovver Oops, forgot the creed:
http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/49...500x500Q85.jpg


DemRam said:
I see the letter "L" but what are the 2 numbers or letters that follow?


:smile1:
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"L6S-" is NOT a good sign. Also the way the serial itself is stamped doesn't look right. That style has been closely faked before. That style wasn't introduced until early 1999 so a late 1996 serial is a big red flag. The plant code "S" should indicate China, not the US. There's also a mix of fonts in the serial number that shouldn't be there.

CHANEL_LOVVER, did your buyer give any specific reasons why she thought it was fake?
 
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Originally Posted by Hyacinth Originally Posted by buckeyebaker http://static.purseblog.com/tpf/buttons/viewpost.gif is there reason to worry about a 'nameless' bag? or is there a way to research the name?



None that I know of, unless someone else can identify it or find it in a catalog. I've seen similar styles before, just can't find them in any of my records.

The condition bothers me a bit too, the outside seems to be in very good condition although I wonder about the color being original.

buckeyebaker said:
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If it has been dyed, is it still considered authentic? and if it **were** a non-original color, does that reduce it's authenticity, and does the new color wear off?
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If it's been redyed, it's still authentic, but NOT original.

Value is subjective - something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

As for color wearing off, it's impossible to say. It depends of the quality of the work and the dyes. Only experience will tell.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Originally Posted by Hyacinth Originally Posted by buckeyebaker http://static.purseblog.com/tpf/buttons/viewpost.gif is there reason to worry about a 'nameless' bag? or is there a way to research the name?



None that I know of, unless someone else can identify it or find it in a catalog. I've seen similar styles before, just can't find them in any of my records.

The condition bothers me a bit too, the outside seems to be in very good condition although I wonder about the color being original.



If it's been redyed, it's still authentic, but NOT original.

Value is subjective - something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

As for color wearing off, it's impossible to say. It depends of the quality of the work and the dyes. Only experience will tell.
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Item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Large...WH_Handbags&hash=item3cbed88ceb#ht_5209wt_794
Seller: boristhekatbargains
Comment: Please authenticate. it's hard to read the number, but it's four digits followed by three (\[seller's comment -- No.0561-341. Made in the United States. (This is the earlier version of the "city" bag from the 80's, the 90's version is style #9790.)
 
#4,467
Hyacinth said:
Originally Posted by chanel_lovver http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...s-coach-694619-post20438976.html#post20438976 Hello!!
Please help me authenticate... I sold this Coach bag on ebay and the buyer is telling me that it's a fake and she said a bad fake too! I'm sure that it's authentic but I would love to direct her to the authentication of the bag here. Since I can't post a link to my own ebay auction I'll include pics and all the other details. Thanks!! Plus, if she does send it back I'll have this when I post it again. TIA
Item: Classic genuine leather camel beige Coach handbag lunch tote 9063
Seller: Me ;)
Pictures:
http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/31...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/17...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/49...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/48...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/19...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/47...425x425Q85.jpg

Originally Posted by chanel_lovver http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...s-coach-694619-post20438985.html#post20438985 Oops, forgot the creed:
http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/49...500x500Q85.jpg

"L6S-" is NOT a good sign. Also the way the serial itself is stamped doesn't look right. That style has been closely faked before. That style wasn't introduced until early 1999 so a late 1996 serial is a big red flag. The plant code "S" should indicate China, not the US. There's also a mix of fonts in the serial number that shouldn't be there.

CHANEL_LOVVER, did your buyer give any specific reasons why she thought it was fake?
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Oh Goodness now I feel horrible!!! I got the bag at my local consignment store and the leather was nice and thick and I honestly never had a second thought. The buyer said the bottom was plastic which is not the case.

O
 
#4,468
Originally Posted by Hyacinth Originally Posted by chanel_lovver Hello!!
Please help me authenticate... I sold this Coach bag on ebay and the buyer is telling me that it's a fake and she said a bad fake too! I'm sure that it's authentic but I would love to direct her to the authentication of the bag here. Since I can't post a link to my own ebay auction I'll include pics and all the other details. Thanks!! Plus, if she does send it back I'll have this when I post it again. TIA
Item: Classic genuine leather camel beige Coach handbag lunch tote 9063
Seller: Me ;)
Pictures:
http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/31...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/17...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/49...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/48...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/19...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/47...425x425Q85.jpg

Originally Posted by chanel_lovver Oops, forgot the creed:
http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/49...500x500Q85.jpg

"L6S-" is NOT a good sign. Also the way the serial itself is stamped doesn't look right. That style has been closely faked before. That style wasn't introduced until early 1999 so a late 1996 serial is a big red flag. The plant code "S" should indicate China, not the US. There's also a mix of fonts in the serial number that shouldn't be there.

CHANEL_LOVVER, did your buyer give any specific reasons why she thought it was fake?

chanel_lovver said:
Oh Goodness now I feel horrible!!! I got the bag at my local consignment store and the leather was nice and thick and I honestly never had a second thought. The buyer said the bottom was plastic which is not the case.

O
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You often can't tell real from fake just by the leather. I've seen real Coaches with thin lightweight leather, and fake bags with leather every bit as thick, soft and smooth as the real thing. Even getting the small details like hardware and stitching right aren't that difficult for the professionals, it's surprisingly easy for a pro to fake a classic leather Coach, and there are probably more fakes in circulation than even I can imagine. :sad:

One other problem with yours is the inside of the handles. The picture shows that the quality of the cutting and stitching on the underside isn't nearly as good as the outside. Usually Coach is more careful about how all those leather pieces are stitched and finished.

But the big problem is still with the creed stamp and codes, they just aren't right for the bag. That's why we always insist on clear photos of the creed and serial number when authenticating. Even the most careful resellers have been fooled by well-made fakes - without understanding Coach's numbers and codes and a style's production history it's very easy to make a mistake.
 
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