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OK. I have a statement that says anything starting with 101 is fake. Is this fake then? Or do you still need to see the creed?
Vintage Coach Navy Blue Shoulder Handbag Purse EUC
190576839378
grahamcrckr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...378?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c5f43cad2

Testing my knowledge:) THanks!

My posts don't say that - it's only fake if the second half of the serial is only 2 or 3 numbers, a genuine vintage bag can start with 101-. This one is 3 plus 2 numbers according to the seller so it's a Made In Korea fake. This one also has incorrect strap mountings and what looks like a non-Coach zipper pull on the outside zipper although we'd need to see a close-up to be sure.

Usually I don't recommend reporting something based just on a serial number posted by the seller unless there's a creed photo to verify it, but it doesn't seem likely that the seller would have left out TWO numbers from the serial number they posted. And 101-25 is a really common number in Korean fakes. So please report if you can.
 

No, only if the bag is made of Signature C fabric, since the year code 8 for 1998 is for 2 years before Coach even introduced Signature C fabrics and because the "Y" plant code also would never have been in a Signature C bag since none were made in the US. But that prefix has been used on a lot of leather fakes too and always needs to be checked.

There aren't enough photos of the first bag to authenticate it. The second bag is genuine.
 
Thanks for the sage advice Hyacinth and BB!
I did tell her that I would need to see the entire creed so that I could authenticate before I bid....have yet to hear back. Will direct her to the forum if I do :-)

I have a few more but it turns out they're from the same seller and it looks like the same bags but in different colors. Actually on closer inspection they may have slight variations but I'm sure you could see it much more clearly than I. Does having so many from the same seller raise any red flags?

Vintage Burgandy Madison speedy
170669237805
energyambit
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/170669237805...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_12641wt_907

Vintage Navy Blue Satchel
170699327922
energyambit
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/170699327922...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_11430wt_907

Vintage Coach Black Madison Satchel
180726738734
energyambit
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/180726738734...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_10957wt_907

Vintage Coach Brown Satchel with horse shoe hardware
180700178094
energyambit
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/180700178094...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_11671wt_907

Thanks so much for the help!
You're welcome.

Regarding energyambit, I recommend you do a search of the forum using the seller's ID to search for POSTS.
 

I don't recognise it but that Coach stamp on the strap buckle is NOT how Coach stamps them, and the rest of it looks badly made and not Coach quality. I'd like to see photos of the inside but to me it looks VERY fake. It's not even a copy of a Coach style, just some cheap fabric patches stitched or glued together.

Wait for more opinions and please DON'T bid on any items by seller marquo27
If you already bid, cancel your bid now.
The wallet being sold by marquo27 is fake. Please report.
 
Here is another one Hyacinth. It's a wallet I bought in ebay.ph. The seller still claims it's authentic. Is it? If i have it authenticated, she's open for a refund though. Here are the links : http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/joenesci/01347c69.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/joenesci/23e61c74.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/joenesci/0417d86e.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/joenesci/76da4aa1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/joenesci/52f5c0dc.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/joenesci/7f00212a.jpg


Actually, I bought two from the seller. If this is fake, surely the other one is, too.
Thanks a lot!
This wallet looks fine. Other opinions are welcome.

ETA: I see that Hyacinth already posted.
 
Thank you both so much. I don't know where we'd all be without your advice!
You're welcome.

OK. I have a statement that says anything starting with 101 is fake. Is this fake then? Or do you still need to see the creed?
Vintage Coach Navy Blue Shoulder Handbag Purse EUC
190576839378
grahamcrckr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...378?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c5f43cad2

Testing my knowledge:) THanks!
No need for a creed picture. It's fake.

Note that we often tell posters that we cannot authenticate based on a serial number. That's because a valid serial number doesn't mean a bag is authentic since the fake-makers can and do put valid numbers on fakes.

But we CAN determine "fakeness" based on a serial number. If the number is one that Coach never used, the bag is fake. That's the case here since 101-25 is a common fake number.
 
Unfortunately that seller has sold a fake before. Although several posters here have been happy with their bags, it's hard to recommend someone in that situation.

That said, all the bags are genuine. The second and fourth aren't considered vintage since it they were made in 1998.

I have no idea where the seller finds so many old satchels. I'm sure some of them have been heavily "reconditioned" and I would worry about re-dyed bags. Older bags that have been used will always show evidence of wear along the bottom piping.

The seller's claim that the included dustbag is a $32 value is nonsense since those are included free with all boutique purchases and aren't even available to purchase separately. And for someone who sells so many, it seems like pure laziness why he doesn't even try to learn the correct names - Coach has NEVER used the term "Speedy" for any of its bags, and a "Doctor" bag implies that it has a hinged top that opens completely.

As usual thanks so much for sharing your thoughts Hyacinth! Yes I did find it a bit laughable that he put a price on something that is clearly given for free. Every designer bag I have purchased always comes with a dust bag and I've never been able to purchase it alone without the bag...lol...
When you mention "heavily reconditioned" does that damage or mar the bag in some way? Perhaps make it crunchy? I will definitely be asking what he's done to it that makes a vintage bag look brand spanking new.
 
Originally Posted by Hyacinth Unfortunately that seller has sold a fake before. Although several posters here have been happy with their bags, it's hard to recommend someone in that situation.

That said, all the bags are genuine. The second and fourth aren't considered vintage since it they were made in 1998.

I have no idea where the seller finds so many old satchels. I'm sure some of them have been heavily "reconditioned" and I would worry about re-dyed bags. Older bags that have been used will always show evidence of wear along the bottom piping.

The seller's claim that the included dustbag is a $32 value is nonsense since those are included free with all boutique purchases and aren't even available to purchase separately. And for someone who sells so many, it seems like pure laziness why he doesn't even try to learn the correct names - Coach has NEVER used the term "Speedy" for any of its bags, and a "Doctor" bag implies that it has a hinged top that opens completely.

As usual thanks so much for sharing your thoughts Hyacinth! Yes I did find it a bit laughable that he put a price on something that is clearly given for free. Every designer bag I have purchased always comes with a dust bag and I've never been able to purchase it alone without the bag...lol...
When you mention "heavily reconditioned" does that damage or mar the bag in some way? Perhaps make it crunchy? I will definitely be asking what he's done to it that makes a vintage bag look brand spanking new.

There are a lot of things that can be done to an older bag depending on what problems it has. Re-dyeing is the biggest. Sometimes gently rubbing an out of the way area on a bag with some conditioner worked into a cloth will make some of the dye rub off. Personally I would never buy a reconditioned bag since I want to know exactly what's been done to it and do any rehab work myself.

And all his bags, no matter how old or new, seem to have exactly the same surface finish, and bags from different eras and in different colors should show at least a little variation. So they've been treated with something, I'd want to know what.

As I told another poster, buying a vintage bag that supposedly never was used isn't neccessarily a good thing, it depends on how the bag has been stored and the climate it's been stored in. The bag could be drying out or mildewing especially if no one's checked on its condition or done anything to condition the leather for 20 or 30 years.
 
Item: COACH KEYCHAIN, NIB
Listing number: 180727318096
Seller: victoria270
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180727318096


Thank you!
Do NOT buy from victoria270.

The keychain you've asked about is fake as are ALL the keychains this seller has sold:
http://www.ebay.com/csc/victoria270/m.html?rt=nc&LH_Complete=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283

OMG! This seller is a true crook! She's ripped of many, many buyers!
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=victoria270&ftab=AllFeedback

And had some of her buyers checked her feedback, they'd have seen the evidence:
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=victoria270&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home
 
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