Originally Posted by
Hyacinth
Originally Posted by Hyacinth
Unfortunately the high-volume and high-Feedback sellers often get breaks from Ebay that other sellers don't. And it takes a lot more reports to get rid of their listings. That seller does high numbers, so it's going to take more than 2 or 3 reports to take it down, and the seller bbigalow will probably re-list his fakes anyway because Ebay doesn't bother to check, it's up to the unpaid help like us to do it.
Something to remember too is that Ebay only allows one report per day against a seller from each poster. Anyone who gets frustrated and sends in a dozen reports of the same fake listing one after the other is wasting their time because only one report counts, the rest just pull your report farther back in line.
Status??? Ebay members who aren't high volume buyers or sellers have NO status, so you can't hurt what you don't have. Sad but true. We're cows whose only reason for existence is to be milked of every ounce of money we have.
Next - if you only report one item number that's all they'll look at and that's all they're supposed to remove. You can report up to 10 listings per seller in each report box though unless Ebay is using different report boxes for different users, which they probably do. You can report a THOUSAND listings by the same seller in one day, you just can't report the SAME item listing over and over.
And never tell them "you THINK something's fake". If you're not positive, you can't report. If YOU don't know if something's fake, the robots in wheatever country Ebay is handling reports out of won't know either.
And of course you should never report something unless you're absolutely sure, and it's been verified by one of the experts. Always keep in mind what I posted in the most recent Fakes List:
"...remember, just because a Coach item seems to have the right style number, or looks just like the picture from Coach's website, or the C's line up correctly, OR IT HAS YKK ZIPPERS, that DOESN"T mean it's genuine.
And just because you haven't seen it before, or can't find it on Google, or don't like it, or think that "Coach couldn't possibly have made something that ugly" doesn't mean it's fake."
thanks so much. I just figured out how to report more than one item of a seller in one report. And I only report them if I'm really sure. So do you think the people from Ebay remove an item just based on the number of reports they receive or the feedback rating of the seller? They don't have anybody that confirms authenticity that works there? That probably explains why I have seen so many fake Chanels sold for a fortune, when it was obvious the serial number was fake.
The number of reports Ebay received has an effect on whether or not listings are removed. No one at Ebay is a trained authenticator, that's why they need so much free help from the members. The previous members of the Trust & Safety departmemt were not experts but had read more than enough reports to know that "C's outside & inside" pretty much was solid proof that a bag was fake and were pretty well-versed in common signs of fakes. One or two even cared enough about the fakes problem to actually join some of the fakes-busting forums and interact with the posters. Unfortunately all of those experienced T&S members have been "permanently laid off" - basically fired, because they were too expensive to keep and did their jobs TOO well. (Thank you Ryan and the other few, wherever you are, who tried to do a good job for an employer who just didn't give a damn).
Supposedly each manufacturer has a VeRO rep working with Ebay who has final say on what gets removed and what doesn't but while the VeRO reps from some companies like Chanel can be deliberately overzealous and remove
genuine listings just because they don't like competition from auction sites, the Coach VeRO rep seems to be a close relative of The Invisible Man. There probably IS a Coach VeRO rep but I've never seen any solid evidence of it. Based on some of the listings that have AND haven't been removed, Coach's VeRO rep knows less about genuine and fake Coach than most of this forum's posters.
So the blind are leading the blind, and CEO Donahue is walking in the footsteps of Meg Whitman and only cares about the bottom line - the fakes problem will continue as long as greed continues to motivate Ebay's executives.
But we have to keep trying.