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FLVFLST said:
I was doing some more research online about things to look for like creed, stitching, hardware, etc. So I think I may have found some issues.
Also #1,2,3 all have 'Made in China' tags in them and all 4 of them have zippers that say YKK.
Purse#1 My concern with this one is the creed is not stamped into the leather, it's just gold writing & when I ran my finger over it it doesn't feel imprinted at all. Also 1 side of the bag the 'C' s don't line up by the stitching.
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First of all, the problem seems to be that you're getting your online information from totally unrelaible sources. If you're using any of those disgusting online "authenticity guides" PLEASE ignore them! Almost every single one of them is either partly or completely outdated or partly or completely wrong. If you want current information, the Answers To Authenticity Questions thread is a good place to start, but even there some of the older posts are outdated. The more recent the post, the more current the information. Read them.

There is NO single thing, such as YKK zippers, that can EVER prove a Coach is genuine. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Period.

Coach DOES use Made in China (also India and Vietnam) fabric tags inside many of its bags and accessories.

Not all Coach items will have YKK zippers and not all "YKK" zippers on fakes are genuine. Fakes manufacturers can buy both real AND counterfeit zippers that say YKK.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to match the C's perfectly on a rounded or contoured seam. Don't ever think that proves a bag is fake.

Some Coaches DO have creed statements printed in gold script that's NOT stamped into the leather.

Wherever you're finding those "Rules" you quoted, ignore them and better yet, delete them off your computer if you saved them. There are almost NO "rules" and the few that exist almost always have exceptions and/or change over the years. The experience and opinions of just one of the regular posters here will be a hundred times more accurate than a thousand of those bogus online Guides. There are maybe half a dozen posted at Ebay that are fairly accurate, the rest are copied from some OTHER Guide that someone found and just reposted over and over again. Trash begets trash, and the blind are following the blind. Anyone who claims they can teach you how to spot fake Coaches in a 3-paragraph Guide is either severly disillusional or an out-and-out snake oil salesman (that means "a liar and a crook" for anyone who's not familiar with that very old-fashioned expression).
 
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My concern with this one is there is no creed in the bag at all. But it did come with the price tag, in a white coach box w/white coach tissue paper.
Also the lining is purple not bluish/purple like in the pic.
 

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#13,011
FLVFLST said:
My concern with this one is there is no creed in the bag at all. But it did come with the price tag, in a white coach box w/white coach tissue paper.
Also the lining is purple not bluish/purple like in the pic.
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Someone else needs to look at that one.
BUT...
COLORS CAN SHOW UP DIFFERENTLY IN PHOTOGRAPHS FROM HOW THE HUMAN EYE SEES IT.

SEE MY PREVIOUS COMMENT ABOUT CREEDS.

PRICE TAGS, BOXES AND TISSUE CAN BE AND ARE FAKED.
 
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Thanks for all your help. I really am learning a lesson here. Next time I want to buy a Coach bag, I'm gonna drive the hour to the Coach outlet & buy one there!
Dawn


Hyacinth said:
First of all, the problem seems to be that you're getting your online information from totally unrelaible sources. If you're using any of those disgusting online "authenticity guides" PLEASE ignore them! Almost every single one of them is either partly or completely outdated or partly or completely wrong. If you want current information, the Answers To Authenticity Questions thread is a good place to start, but even there some of the older posts are outdated. The more recent the post, the more current the information. Read them.

There is NO single thing, such as YKK zippers, that can EVER prove a Coach is genuine. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Period.

Coach DOES use Made in China (also India and Vietnam) fabric tags inside many of its bags and accessories.

Not all Coach items will have YKK zippers and not all "YKK" zippers on fakes are genuine. Fakes manufacturers can buy both real AND counterfeit zippers that say YKK.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to match the C's perfectly on a rounded or contoured seam. Don't ever think that proves a bag is fake.

Some Coaches DO have creed statements printed in gold script that's NOT stamped into the leather.

Wherever you're finding those "Rules" you quoted, ignore them and better yet, delete them off your computer if you saved them. There are almost NO "rules" and the few that exist almost always have exceptions and/or change over the years. The experience and opinions of just one of the regular posters here will be a hundred times more accurate than a thousand of those bogus online Guides. There are maybe half a dozen posted at Ebay that are fairly accurate, the rest are copied from some OTHER Guide that someone found and just reposted over and over again. Trash begets trash, and the blind are following the blind. Anyone who claims they can teach you how to spot fake Coaches in a 3-paragraph Guide is either severly disillusional or an out-and-out snake oil salesman (that means "a liar and a crook" for anyone who's not familiar with that very old-fashioned expression).
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#13,020
FLVFLST said:
I was doing some more research online about things to look for like creed, stitching, hardware, etc. So I think I may have found some issues.
Also #1,2,3 all have 'Made in China' tags in them and all 4 of them have zippers that say YKK.
Purse#1 My concern with this one is the creed is not stamped into the leather, it's just gold writing & when I ran my finger over it it doesn't feel imprinted at all. Also 1 side of the bag the 'C' s don't line up by the stitching.
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FLVFLST said:
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Please take any info gleaned from online guides with a grain (or thousands of grains) of salt. Most are (at best) incomplete and some are filled with inaccurate and obsolete information.

As for the bag you've shown (blue pouch), that particular style has a creed with gold script lettering. The slight unmatched patterns on the sides are a common occurrence and is fine in this instance.
 
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